huh?
What's all this about? What's the sticky about?
I'm confused.

Hi,

I have been getting a lot of success with getting phone numbers in the past couple weeks, but I have been having little success translating the phone numbers into day-two's. Of the 7 phone numbers I received, about 4 have answered and all 7 have texted me back at least once. Are there any general rules for waiting a couple days before calling, text game, waiting before re-calling a number and comfort building over the phone. How can I translate these phone numbers consistently into more day two's?

Thanks,
Big Mac

ok so there is this girl i been chattin to alot and been getin very close
btw this was before i realise about the p.u.a shizzle
shes a top girl but im haveing big trouble kiss/fuk closeing
ive read alot about this stuff the last 2 days and what im seeing she is repeling evrything
say for instance were laying there cuderling ill have my hand on hers and when i put it somewere else shell push her hand back under mine she says she likes me and we as good as togher (not that i want this but im not lettin a woman defeat me)
from what ive read ive pritty much gone through all the stages subconsiously
but when were togher her head is never in the position say to go for the kiss if ya get me.
also i try abit of harmful play fighting and pillow fights but she has none of it
now im no expert on this stuff u guys talk about but the more i read the more i realise i do this shizzle meself anyway bar the odd bit here and there which is great advise n help.

if anybody could shed some light on how to really make this girl show more sighns of a normal girl or what methods you would recomend goin for next

chers

Hi.
I was at my (not so clos) friend's birthday, and there were just 5 or 6 people. I know them all, but not so good. There was also one girl I like, and I saw her ones before.
During the evening I made a few good moves (made her laugh, kino etc.),
and I saw that she like's me too. If I asked her to give me a phone number, she would (I'm pretty shure). But the problem is that I coultn't talk to her in private. If I ask her, everybody will hear (in best case only her girlfriend seating next to me).
I don't care about this, but I'm afraid that she does. So, I could blow up because I didn't find the right moment/way to ask.
What can I do in situation like this? I's not unique case.
Help

robot alert.

Lot's of touchy people on these forums. It's cute though - that they like you enough to post about it.


I have a question about sexual drive/motivation.

I find that when I'm getting laid a lot, either in an LTR, with FB's, or whatever, that my motivation level for going out, and working hard when I go out drops like a rock. I'd liken it to be similar to jerking off a lot, except that when I'm getting laid a lot, I feel like the fucking man.

So, what's the best way to get myself motivated even while I've got a lot of FB's or LTR's?



My second, and related question I think is more of an advanced question, for those people who are already closing. How and when to do you tell a woman that you're a PUA? Or do you even refer to yourself as a PUA? Some people stay away from these lables, and rightfully so.


And thirdly - is there anything I should know about developing multiple LTR's? It's seems like it would be pretty hard to accomplish without leaving at least one of them in the dark - how's it work?

Hey saint, this is just a copy of what i posted in the newbie thread.

" just came back from a night club here in toronto. It was a nice place with lots of attractive people. However, the music was too loud and there were very few places where it was possible to have ANY sort of conversation. I opened 2-3 sets but it was too difficult to ask them questions without leaning waaaay in and looking needy. I managed to work one set but it was like 6s and one 7 and one of the 6s gave me her number without me asking which i really had no intention of calling. Anyways is it possible to run game in loud clubs or should i just not bother???"

Also if the majority of the sets id like to open are dancing in the area where its the loudest is there anything i could do? How do you approach dancing sets?

thanks!

Good post rome0....i am also wondering how i could step up my club game....im thinking its all in the posture and body language when approaching the target no?

how can you get over a sticking point of not wanting to have sex with a girl because you can't get over the fact that (after being social conditioned to think otherwise) girls want/have sex more then guys, and it isn't a 'big deal' to them like its (from social conditioning) supposed to be.

how can i get myself to actually want to have sex with someone, so i actually push myself to my potential... instead of being held back by this sticking point.

peace.

I'm in the midst of setting up a Day 2 with a girl I met a few days ago and she wants to come over and meet up, but she got home in the evening and by the time I talked to her it was 9:45pm. She works the next morning at 9am and as it's a Day 2, I can't just say, "Well no worries, you can sleep here."

Her friends are also trying to get her to come down to a club that is near her place and I'm about 45 min from her place, as well as the club.

We flirted a bunch, shared some stories, all the good stuff, but she's hesitant about the coming out so late and working so early, but our schedules don't line up very well for the next few days and I'd have liked to meet up with her tonight, so I suggested we meet up at the club and she was still hesitant, cause she doesn't really want to go out to see her friends this late either.

The question is, how do you go about dealing with issues like this? Do you just say, "Oh well, we'll meet up later on when our schedules work out," and hope that the connection is still as good after about a week? Or do you have a way of solidifying things?

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

thank you Mr. Saint!

Nice reply, thanks for that

Just a slight expansion on the previous question, any suggestions for when working in the club part? (basically its broken into 3 floors, 2 club type floors, and 1 70's/80's bar) as im sure the above is much more suited to the slightly slower paced usually not as busy 70's/80's bar, but once it gets to the club it can get very busy combined with the loudness as well, or is it a case of try and make the above flow with it?

Should Kino be constant? or whats the deal? What if she takes her hands off of me before I push them off?

While going solo, how do I enter comfort with the target in a two set or three set, where I am unable to isolate due to her friends?


ThX



JPizzle

Hey, How we all doing?

Jpiz,

First off kino is such a scientific term, lets try calling it a physical interaction, touching. At the start, this should happen for short brief spurts this way she questions your intentions and you become a thought that is in her head through more than just the element of speaking. At the same time this is a skill that takes time to practice and excel at. You should always be able to let go of the physical interaction first. If you give her too much you will push her away, or come to seem very needy. Also remember every woman is different in their standards and thus touching cannot be constant as some girls despise public displays of affection and others love it. There is a time and a place for everything.

Solo isolation> You are missing a huge aspect of this!! Listen up you are supposed to always make obstacles your friends and allies. Without doing this you are counterproductive to your needs as the obstacles will interfere. If you acknowledge the obstacles and your target is actually digging you nothing will stop it. Look around people are taking home married girls, girls with boyfriends etc ... If she likes what your about she will take that opportunity.

If you get me more details I can give you more concrete knowledge.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

Jd-alexei-17@hotmail.com

'Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm disappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistently, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying.'

'How did it start?Well, I don't know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking.'

'Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me'

'Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck'

'Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, re energize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Cool thx man.

Here is FR from the night.

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Hey Guys,

I sarged taquilla solo, and it was sooo easy. Solo sarging is soooo fun, I have never been in such a good state. It's quite odd, as going solo is seen as the worst and the scariest part of the game. But it's not, it's actually easier.

I approached 4 sets and flirted with a friend who was a shooter girl.

-To Hb9.5 Shooter girl friend.
JPizzle:-I do a rockstar type of point at her.
Hb9.5 smiles and waves. She motions me to comeover. At this point a chode came into buy a drink. She tries to hold on to me to stay. But instead of waiting for her, I leave my jacket w/ her and go to open a set.

JPizzle: -To a seated 3 set- Hey guys I need a serious opinion. I caught my best friend cheating on his girlfriend, but i am rlly good friends with both.
HB8.5#1: blah blah
Hb8.5#2: blah blah
-Then we talked about total random shit. I busted on them and stuff. -
JPizzle: im gnna show you something super crazy. So don't scared OK. I am not a psycic like miss cleo lol.
- I do the esp number game on HB8.5#1 and HBFriend5. It works-
Hb8.5#1: wow
JPizzle: so what do you guys do for life?
Girls: blah blah blah
JPizzle: hey guys i gtta talk to a friend of mine that's working. ill cya later. Group hug !
We hug!

-To SG9.5
JPizzle: hey come down from your stool thingy.- She's not wearing shoes. I say the floor is fine. She doesn't comply errrrrrr. She hugs me. I point to my cheak and she kisses-
JPizzle: How are you.
SG9.5: JP, im rlly drunk lol.
JPizzle: ahahhahaha.
JPizzle: Thumb war!
SG9.5: Nahhh i broke a nail.
JPizzle: lol. Then the other hand.
SG9.5: You can't leave your Jacket here. Ill get in trouble.
JPizzle: Seriously?!
SG9.5: yup.
- We talk about random shit-
Shes not complying with stuff and not keeping her full attention to her.
- I point to my cheak. She kisses it. I pce to continue sarging.


-To previous 3 set.

JPizzle: hey
-We then talk about random shit. It is random, soo I don't remember much of it. In all seriousness you can talk about how the sky is purple (props to Kon).
JPizzle: yoo, were totally going on the dance floor, lets see your moves
-So I take the three set to the dance floor-
-I try grinding HB8.5#1, but shes not having hit. I thought this was odd, because she kept leaing in and touching me during our interaction. I later found out that she was married. I hesitated grinding with HB8.5#2, looking back I should have, the group was comfortable with me soo I would have had noo problems-
-After dancing to 3 songs-
JPizzle: We should go back to a table. hehehe I don't want hb8.5#2 pass out here.
-Talk about random shit-
JPizzle: hey i gtta pce for lil. another group hug lol. -I know its sounds super lame that I exited. But I couldn't freaking Isolate the target (HB8.5#1) due to her 2 friends. But I honestly did not try.

I see SG9.5 again.
-She's off her stool. I give her a huge ass hug. We talk about
random shit. Another shoooter girl comes and talks with her. She turns her attention to her. While holding my arm to try to keep me there. I pce. Lol looking back i should have opened the friend.

-I go out to the smoke pit and do couple more approaches, both hooked, and we chatted for a few. I opened a 6 set with only 1 girl in it. It was going good, but i had no idea how to isolate the girl (any ideas?). So i pce'ed

-I run into the original 3 set and email close HB8.5#.

-To SG9.5

JPizzle: Im going
SG9.5: aww
JPizzle: motioned for her to come down to my level.
SG9.5: She says she can't. and tries to hug me from up there.
-I pce with a smile on my face while give her a no no finger wiggle.




Good Points:
- I opened girls that I was attracted to. And I opened well
- I stayed in set for a long time. I was in that first set for like half an hour before my first take away. and the entire time i was talking about shit i just came up. Canned material wasnt used that much.
- I was having fun. Talking to everyone.
- I would not wait for SG9.5.


Improvements:
-Kino. I was getting IOI's from the target, but felt akward kinoing in the 3 set.
-isolating. No idea how to Isolate in small hb sets or sets with only 1 girl and few guys.
-I should have opened SG9.5 friend instead of leaving.


Questions:
kino tips?
Comfort tips?
Isolating while u have no wing, and are in a small HB set or a set with a bunch of dudes and 1 girl?
Could I have done something better with the shooter girl?


Thoughts:

-When going solo, I think dance game could be awsome for kino, and to kill some time if you run outta materiall. But you have to manouver the set to the dance floor, not vice versa. Or you look like an orbiter.

-I think the way we have been winging each other in the past month has not helped our game. Wings make you feel safe and less motivated to open and push a set as far as possible. When your solo, you have to open and push the set as much as you can. You don't have your buddy there to comfort you or chill with if it doesn't work out. Wings are good if the wings are giving each other advice.

-Taquilla is like an amature club. The hired guns are not super confident, and are easy to flirt with. It maybe small, but sets there hook much easier. It gives a chance to practice more than opening!



JPizzle