Not asking if it does, I know there's people out there who go for it regardless of other circumstances and even saw a video about a homeless PUA. Just thinking I can't be the only one who looks at it like "get this very basic thing squared away before you do any kind of thrill seeking". On the other hand I could see the argument that if you deliberately make yourself asexual you'll end up not exactly depressed, but just somehow lackadaisical and "off" with the result that nobody will want to hire you anyway. Thoughts?

Sex is dictated by one law, attraction.

Having a job or not can only be a deciding factor if you let it be. Sure it helps to have a job, security and money, it can help you feel more confident and maybe even draw in some potential attraction from a certain type of woman, but it real has no significance in a seduction.


Confidence is key and there's a tons of ways to gain confidence, true confidence and none of them have anything to do with your current financial status.

True confidence comes from self belief and a genuine desire. This can be achieved by almost any man.

If you truly believe in yourself, nothing else matters.


Seduction is about you and her only( in a bubble). It's about triggering her natural desires, pushing the right buttons, arousing her, intriguing her.

In almost all pick up situations the woman knows you want to fuck her, what she doesn't quite know is whether or not she is going to let you. ( A good pua will have this situation reversed)

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I wasn't really asking about whether it affects your chances with women, but whether or not a person should just deliberately set those chances to 0 for themselves during periods of unemployment, with the understanding they'll get back in when the job situation is squared away.

I Just can't feel like an attractive man if I live with parents and have no job. Nothing to do with women. But just in terms of being independent and not having to borrow money from everyone.

Living on the streets is just unacceptable.

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It really depends on your priorities. Personally I also think career should be #1 preference. And if you think sarging is getting in the way of that, you can put it aside for some time (few months...not years).
Once you've sorted out your career, you can then start sarging again.

Ideally I think there should always be a perfect balance between the two. That's what we all strive for our whole life. A balance between career, health and relationships (The 3 wheels of life..as it is said) Whenever one wheel is not working, it should be fixed immediately.
I hope you got your answer.

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I tell this to teenagers when they ask about learning pickup: don't worry about it until you get your shit together. If you don't have a job, but have your shit together via winning the lottery or early retirement or some shit, go for it. If you don't have a job, dunno where you're gonna live next month, and have no means of getting from point A to point B that uses a motor, then focus there first.

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Yeah. These 17 years olds read the RSD blue print. Then listen to Tyler that he went out every night for 3 years. These people emulate this and neglect their foundation.

Seen it way too many times.

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Yeah I've always called bullshit on Maslow's heirarchy defining sex as a need. Probably not an agreeable opinion for a pick up forum, and it's not like I believe in abstinence the way some religions push it, but I always placed it in the entertainment category and no more or less important than seeing the latest movie or snacking on the occasional junk food.

I'd have to disagree with this advice, specifically to teenagers.

At such age having a job, a car and or your shit together really doesn't matter because everyone in that age group is usually in the same boat. (The dating pool is limited to within a few years of one another 16-19)

In my opinion, it is precisely the time to learn(start) the valuable skills of seduction and socializing, this is when it matters least whether or not you have your shit together.

If a 17 yr old male decided to spend the next 4 years focusing on "getting his shit together" and did well but spent minimal time honing his social and pick up skills, odds are he will be a socially awkward individual with approach anxiety, etc.

Now he is 21 and in a much larger dating pool, (19-99) has his shit together but lacks the basic skills to get what he's always naturally wanted.(Sex) At this point their is so many new variables and unless he focuses all his extra time and energy to pick up, it can turn out to be a long and tedious process (considering now his job and having his shit together takes up a huge chunk of his conscious time.)


Seduction and socializing is a fundamental life skill, it's what opens doors, it's what gets you that job at the interview of your lifetime. It's what makes you friends, associates, business partners, lovers, etc.

Pick up and seduction is not just about fucking the girl, its about being attractive, it's about attracting women(people) to you. It's about being likeable. The better you are at it, the easier it will be to get your shit together.

I suggest starting as early as possible, it doesn't mean you should not be working on getting your shit together, that should always be present, but so should pick and seduction. It's up to the individuals to find a healthy balance. (Both should always be present)

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I'd agree if you're someone who's "on their way"(attending college, pursuing an art/entertainment career with actual talent, learning a skilled trade), then sure enjoy the ride and keep your social skills sharp. On the other hand if you're completely directionless, living with parents, bouncing from McJob to McJob in your early adult life with no answer to "what do you want to do with your life" but a blank stare and a scratch of the head, you should deliberately exclude yourself from social activity, not pursue sex, and turn it down if ever presented with a sure thing. Otherwise not only do you end up a bum, but you've got enough positive feedback to think it's ok.

I do come across a lot of spaz's that neglect their career and concentrate too much on pick up, so yeah a balance is a must.

A lot of people won't care to admit it, but they attend university/college purely for the sake of girls. This is their introduction to the world of being away from parents/home - socialising and trying to hook up with as many girls as possible for a few years. Their studying is their secondary priority or perhaps not at all.

I can commend people that will focus on pick up when they realise it is affecting their happiness. Too many people dabble and juggle too many things and not nailing either one of things for spreading themselves too thin.

I never got the chance to do the university thing. I am glad I didn't really because I know I would partied too much and neglect all my work and be $30k in debt with student loans.

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