I have an HB who is interested in the LTR. I should mention we've been on about 3 dates and she's holding out. She might be testing me, or else she feels if she gives it up too soon, I either won't respect her, or will leave after I"ve got what I want.

I'm not interested in an LTR whatsoever. All I want is a FB. However, because I thought it would help me get laid, lol, I said some things and ALLOWED her to believe we were possible LTR material.

How do I tell her...

"hey, I like you well enough to fuck you every once in a while when I have nothing better to do, but there's no way in hell you're ever becoming my girlfriend"

in a tactful way that will allow me to keep her around as a fb?

Haha, yeah if there is a tactful way to say that. It all depends on the girl. Only you can tell how she'll take that. Just know that if it doesnt work, she's gone. It kinda risky.

It really does depend on the girl. There isn't much you can do to become a FB if she is looking for a LTR. She has her mind set on one thing, and if its LTR she probably thinks a FB would make her a slut. Some girls love the idea, some despise it.

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If you had sex with her, you broke the "Leave her better than you found her" rule.

Ultimately, a real PUA does not mislead a target's mind to believe anything that isn't his true intention.

Hopefully, you didn't already have sex with her so that you can preserve your moral ground as a PUA. If so, just move on with an abundance mentality. "There are plenty of fish in the sea."

The only reason we would act in such immoral ways would be because we were thinking from a position of scarcity, which is something AFCs do.

Think about that.

So are you saying that F-closing is wrong?

I don't think he's saying that at ALL. He's saying that F-closing while giving her the false impression that you want her to be an LTR is wrong. We need to be upfront and honest about our intentions with women or we lose all integrity as a PUA.

I concur with the above statement. Theres nothing worse than f-closing a girl who becomes emotionally attached and believes there might be the possibility of LTR. You gotta be upfront next time from the beginning.

Say something like, "I should tell you, I'm bad news. Im not looking for a relationship. You're a cool girl, but before anything happens, I dont want to hurt you. If you cant handle this you should probably walk away". Funny thing is that this might make the girl wanna fuck you even more, but you stated your intentions

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Would you say this to her in person-- as we're taking our clothes off even?

Personally, I would tell her up front, not long after you meet her. If you don't, then some time the first night. If you haven't told her by the time you're taking your clothes off, then you'll probably just add to the LMR. But then of course she'll think you're a jerk if you hit and git. That's why you should let her know before you even get that far.