so having lunch today with some friends, i noticed a 20ish HB outside with her mom. in my personal experience girls tend to have a close female relationship with their moms and the girls tend to take after their moms.

just curious if anyone has any experience sarging HB's with the girl's mom around. the way i pictured it, the mom (obstacle) sees this young social charming man and once he overcomes the obstacle of the mom she sees him as a potential suitor for her daughter. especially once DHV is in the picture (good job, well dressed/groomed, social skills, etc).

thoughts?

ps: i thought about approaching, but a few minutes after, the dad met up with them. that could have gotten weird/bad...

Usually girls are on their best lady like behavior around their moms. Plus if you neg her daughter right in front of her mom she might be like wtf, my husbands a marine captain.

I love HB's moms!

HBs have a heightened social intuition and can tell from the get-go whether or not you are an authentic and attractive male. Moms are even BETTER from years more of experience.

If you are a PUA who has built himself to be an authentic and attractive male, and you disarm the momstacle (lol look I coined a new term) by just being cool, nonthreatening, not being threatened, and confident, the HB's mom will be ROOTING FOR YOU.

I've run 2 sets with a target and her momstacle (lol i like this) before and it's fun! It's also good practice to become more charming and authentic. I've even had momstacles give me her daughter's number before. Fun times. =)

I could have # closed a HB with her mum once. She spotted me, i had perfect BL and was dressed great that day, i had amazing EC game goin with her while we was sat down. And when she walked past and smiled, i should have opened, all i would have had to say was 'hi lets exchange numbers i think we should meet up sometime'. But i did'nt, i flapped it. I wasn't in the best frame of mind that day after walking like 20 miles & if the mum wasn't there i would have done.
Oh well at least i got something out of it.

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