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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:42 am 
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Alright, recently I was invited to go out with some of my old high school friends. One of them i hadn’t seen in roughly a year and a few months. So I'm thinking cool we are hitting night game, it will be a great sarging place, ill open a few sets, run game get my targets so on.
Anyway I arrive and everything was very nice vip we had to watch some bands, alot of HB's around.. during that time i saw my mate, we had a chat, a few drinks and talked about life!

The tribal leader of that social circle (150 people) decided to go to another place where we also VIP to, so we got in the bus/cars and left! On the way there this girl comes next to him and opens him.. he ends up telling her to go to the club, and later they were making out like crazy. I'm like okay, he had that one easy she IOI'd him, whatever.. we got off the bus and another random girl comes to him grabs his ass, she had a boyfriend and a 2 set with her, he goes over to where they are, mind you this is a moving set, he befriends the boyfriend, talks to her, befriends her set, becomes the alpha male of the set, the guy lost his girlfriend and he ended up fucking her that night. As we were about to arrive at the venue yet again, a random girl talks to him, she’s all over him, this guy is totally average, and by now im like fucking hell... I'm a pua i sarge day game i get results with work, but this guy is a natural he doesn’t sarge, they come to him.. it was insane to see! We walk in the club yet another girl who had been giving me IOI's as i walked in the room came over and sat next to him, and the another one as he was buying us drinks..

By now i was gobsmacked wtf, not peacocked nothing.. he didn’t do anything he was talking to us all night, all of us conducting ourselves well.. and then another one comes he gets a BJ, so on... Im like fuck.. i came back home today totally plastered, i feel like I've been hit by a 400 ton train.. Still trying to work out WTF happened! I always sarge and get the girl, but that’s with effort, a lay would take me like 2 dates, a instant meetup and then a date after and id fuck her, 7 hours. This guy was 1-2 hours! and the girl would always come back for a relationship.

Just stunned.. After you see a natural in action, you realise being a pua is really not special.

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besides him being a natural/lucky bastard :P

from what i understood is that he didnt really look out for girls..i mean his eye didnt even wonder so that could've made him look extremely NOT needy so perhaps attraction #1 and two it seems like he was the centre of attention between you guys..alpha male style so attraction #2. lastly he seemed to know the VIP places which means he has quite a social person, with the ability to create rappor and comfort coveing excellent body language attraction #3..together that creates quite an attractive package to women..

i see your point and i agree its annoying though :evil: :oops: :lol: fuckerz lol

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Really its not as big a deal as you make it...most of these "naturals" have spent years building up thier social proof, thier circles, and estblishing themselves as the alpha.

My cousin is by all means a natural, he got soo much attention like this that one of my friends would "open" by introducing him to girls. hed point to my cousin from accross the room, theyd give him the thumbs up...then hed walk over and go, "this is my friend A, hes gay...im E."

Lately hes been running all around getting laid for what seems to me like no effort, when in fact i realized that this is the outcome of 10+ years of being very social. Building up rapport with many groups of people and display alpha traits and leadership all around.

I used to think maybe it was something physcial...like they found him attractive bc of looks....then a bit later i realized i have guy friends who are much more attractive (no homo) that dont do as well, at which point i just assumed he "had it" and others didnt.

Now i understand the underlying dynamics of it. When i go out with him i can bring that world of his crashing down very easily...he cant compete because i know how to take that power away from him. Ive done it on multiple occasions. I can counter him by simply making sure he gets the worst seat at a table or by AMOG'in him properly, among other ways...

Use your friend as a model for setting up your social life, look at how he conducts himself...but stick to the PUA knowledge you have and eventually when you build up your social network the way he has you'll achieve the same.

Naturals are typically alpha because they align with people who have weaker frames then them...they get surrounded by followers and they lead them. That may sound negative but its not.

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It's all down to congruent body language, that is it. humans were mating long before the invention of language, cloths or even makeup and haircuts. Body language is so powerful it can give you control the moment you step into a room.
The more important point is not keeping confident body language, but rather keeping it congruent.

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Hah that is just depressing. Why are you doing that to me?


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Hah that is just depressing. Why are you doing that to me?
Mann i meet impact last night @ arthouse!! LOL! the dude was wearing mysterys hat and was on fire!!!!!!!! I think he had a bad night with his friends that time! thats why he wrote this post! But anyway we were working the whole venue! in particular he had one hot brunette who wouldn’t get away from him! one make out he did and a isolation, i had to work his set being a wingman!! LMAO i ran out of shit to say but who cares, it was great to watch him get the chick!

later we got to sit down, and he told me the score.. basically just talk to everyone for a few minutes, introduce yourself drop value, keep moving around talking to everyone, and once your social proof is high, hit your main target!

we observed a natural at work too man they were awesome, all they did is literally just sit back and it was on! all the women coming to them! Altho we had some come to us later in the night too, because they had seen Impact make out with one of the chicks, and chat a few others!

its so good to see what’s up in field and actually go out there watch the magic!


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Mann i meet impact last night @ arthouse!! LOL! the dude was wearing mysterys hat and was on fire!!!!!!!! I think he had a bad night with his friends that time! thats why he wrote this post! But anyway we were working the whole venue! in particular he had one hot brunette who wouldn’t get away from him! one make out he did and a isolation, i had to work his set being a wingman!! LMAO i ran out of shit to say but who cares, it was great to watch him get the chick!
Hah, "dude whered you get that hat from?, do you know my friend Mystery? ?" Very nice opener ;)
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besides him being a natural/lucky bastard Razz
from what i understood is that he didn’t really look out for girls..i mean his eye didn’t even wonder so that could've made him look extremely NOT needy so perhaps attraction #1 and two it seems like he was the centre of attention between you guys..alpha male style so attraction #2. lastly he seemed to know the VIP places which means he has quite a social person, with the ability to create rappor and comfort covering excellent body language attraction #3..together that creates quite an attractive package to women..
i see your point and i agree its annoying though Evil or Very Mad Embarrassed Laughing fuckerz lol
Yeah, there are few naturals man, but if you see them in field, its even mind boggeling to me! Its alot of things that they do that are really good. I've been in this game for just over a year, and I havn't really concentrated on night game, so when I saw him in action, he didn’t do anything and he had women coming all over, it totally blew me away! Simple because I’ve done so much day game and was completely un-calibrated for night game! Its a different thing’s with night game its perception. All you have to do is fake a good time, but really feel it, jump around go nuts, go crazy, and dont give a shit about anyone, and at the same time talk to everyone, and women just come up to you man! especially when you open several sets with chicks in them, and they laugh at your jokes! It feels and seems almost impossible to figure out, but it makes perfect logical sence. There is a calibratory process that I do now when i go into night game which helps alot.

Peacocking helps too, if your different you will be opened, it doesn’t have to be tidy and pretty, it can be ugly with a massive mohawk, and you’ll still get opened. Don't dress like the usual metro sexual males in the city, everyone with the collard shirts, tennis tops so on.
Direct game isn’t really necessary, not as much as it is in day game. See in day game its all by the book, you go, you open, you smile, neg, so on, its all by the book, fake rappor, quallify, so on. Night game, nah, you go and open every set, demonstrate some value, hi 5 everyone move along, move around, you don’t stay and game that one set directly, especially if its a loud venue! you will come back to them or they will come to you when they notice your having fun and being genuine. They will asses you while your away, look at you and talk amongst their friends, be like he’s short, or tall, he’s bald whatever, and they’ll come back and be like,

"You know your kinda skinny"

as like a shit test or something, and your like thanks, but wait till i take off my pants ;) different story and there you go, some funny shit, you make her laugh, the difficult part is really isolation. If you want the girl you have to isolate her.

Just like in day game, the bridge for a date is the isolation not the close. Its the slight comfort building that you do before you leave that gets your second date. My experience anyway, i had some pua argue with me last weekend, but none of his sets became dates and all of mine did so :) *pulls the middle finger*.

Look if anyone has questions and is having problems, just PM me, regarding the transition process. it was very tough for me from day game to night game. Its totally different, not harder or easier, and those are my genuine words on the subject.

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Naturals are typically alpha because they align with people who have weaker frames then them...they get surrounded by followers and they lead them. That may sound negative but its not.
Perceived lower value individuals, yeah Ka your right on it! In other words, the tough guys that get the girls are surrounded by dudes who don’t look as tough who are looking up to them and following them.
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It's all down to congruent body language, that is it. humans were mating long before the invention of language, cloths or even makeup and haircuts. Body language is so powerful it can give you control the moment you step into a room.
The more important point is not keeping confident body language, but rather keeping it congruent.
Yeah but body language is elementary man, thanks for the advice but I'm not a newbie ;) I hope that wasn't a neg *looks at you with squinting*
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There are methods attempting to teach people how to become naturals, as KA's current thread talks about. Sounds like that dude did exactly what is talked about in that thread. What methods do you use? You may want to try to implement some of the techniques from 'natural' methods into your game, it would help I think. I'm by no means saying your a bad PUA, just that it seems you want to not have to work as much. Social proof is key.

There is no way, no way! I would review someone elses material! I can berley stand watching or reading any of the official material/books! All that stuff is internalised, i simply calibrate to what i know, and figure out the answers for myself. And I also don't want to taint my knowledge with someone elses, and principles. I think Ka is cool, he has good points, and my respect, i will probably chuck him a live interview along side with Monkey, XF, Ryan, and a few others on here!

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I used to think maybe it was something physcial...like they found him attractive bc of looks....then a bit later i realized i have guy friends who are much more attractive (no homo) that dont do as well, at which point i just assumed he "had it" and others didnt.

Now i understand the underlying dynamics of it. When i go out with him i can bring that world of his crashing down very easily...he cant compete because i know how to take that power away from him. Ive done it on multiple occasions. I can counter him by simply making sure he gets the worst seat at a table or by AMOG'in him properly, among other ways...

Use your friend as a model for setting up your social life, look at how he conducts himself...but stick to the PUA knowledge you have and eventually when you build up your social network the way he has you'll achieve the same.
Solid advice again. It's right on! I have to admit when i wrote this post, i hermited for about 3 days, not talking to anyone, not going on my computer, just sitting and thinking! Then went out again, dressed differently, conducted myself differently, got the results! I'm almost about to say night game is alot easier then day game, but considering its very noisy and its crazy, some people freak out. We are still evolving as a race so its good to say its about the same diffilculty.

The sitting position all that, yeah. Even as small as you and your friends are dressed the same, and he is dressed differently, the slightest things man. I think a cool way of summing it up would be

Day game
No one is looking to get laid, it takes effort, its rewarding when it works, and the girl is up for it, if your presenting yourself well, laid back chilled, having fun, doing something aside from looking to ride her clit, altho she doesn’t mind that either ;). Its by the book to the letter!

If your good with direct game, youd be great at day game! Especially if you like to walk for hours and check out stuff, have fun!

Night Game
Everyone is out to fuck, meet people have a good time, especially in the hardcore venues, but, they want someone decent not regular. Probably because they’ve fucked everyone who is regular and it didn’t lead them to what they want in life. They are alot more exposed, and their instincts kick in, weather it be quick rapport building instincts or fear or whatever! Feelings and emotions are amplified, at the same time, what you say and your game has now come down 4 levels, its easier!

If you can overcome your initial fears that we all have and get in a talkative state and a fun, i wanna enjoy myself state, and your good at building quick rappor and great at instant calibration, and yelling to the very top of your loungs and beyond, then youll be great at night game.


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