Hi, my pen name is here flash123, i am new to this forum, but not new to pickup. I have experience doing pickup, I am able to go out and pickup girls, i hookup every here and there, but my skillset is still far from mastery. I believe the number 1 reason is the lack of time and lifestyle freedom---which comes from a lack of money. I hookup, still i need to pay for expenses( like my own food, transportation,look good,etc), then i become financially stressed,and i have to work hard. Going back and analyze the mPUA in the community,you see them get to master in one or two year, but well, they have enough money to cover their expenses while they train, they hangout with masters, and work(spend all their time) teaching pickup as they progress( just like Style or Mehow). Which is not my case.

So, I have made the decision to focus on finding new ways to make more money, and cutting the time that i need to spend to make more money. However, i want to know... how much money is enough for freedom? I live NY, and pay $1000 a month in rent.

By freedom, I mean... working 20hrs a week or less. Have enough money to cover my expenses--food, drink, transportation, fashion, and go out at least 4 nights a week, and not financially stressed. I know the amount is different for everyone.

So, let me ask you guys a question. If based on the current city that you are living, if you were to go out 4 nights a week, assuming no supplication to woman, but still.... pay for your own food, drink, clothes, go to bar,club,etc. How much would you be spending in total in a week/month, and what city do you live in?

Guys, please help me out by supplying this information...so i can get an idea more or less how much i need to make per month to cover my expenses, and enjoy financial freedom to train to be mPUA. I want to setup a specific goal, i want to know where exactly i need to get to(financially)..in order to enjoy lifestyle freedom to practice pickup.

Thanks! Your answers will be highly appreciated!

First of all, I would HIGHLY recommend a course called affiloblueprint (by a guy called Mark Ling). This is an internet marketing course that is SUPER legitimate (read as many reviews as you like). This course will teach you how to make a constant and steady income online.

As far as money is concerned, I may not be able to give you the best answer because I live in New Zealand. But if you are serious about that kind of lifestyle, you should consider moving to a cheaper city than New York (not hard to find) and you would need to only really be getting about $800 per week.

Good luck!

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Hey KiwiPUA, thanks for the reply, i would definitely check out Mark Ling.

Well, I know what you mean,New York is expensive to live, it's easier to go to a cheaper place to live, and of course making a living would be easier, and have more time. The problem is, cheaper place cuts down my option with woman. New York is amazing when it comes to sarging, pretty girls all flood to new york from all over the world. And I love to pickup models, the fashion industry is very big here in NY, so i get to see lots of models. I could easily move to other city like Philadelphia(2hrs away).
Make $400 a week in philadelphia, i am more than good, and have more time.... but limiting options to sarging...especially sarging beautiful, high quality woman( not getto-ish sluts).

I would stay in New york, 2nd best place in US to sarge(#1 is vegas). I will learn internet marketing, and i will make more money to sustain a better lifestyle to practice pickup. I will get there, it's just a matter of some time... i just needed a clue more or less how much i would need to achieve my goal.

But thanks Kiwi, you informed me a lot!

Someone with control issues altered my post. I will try again cause they clearly misunderstood the message.


OP, pierce and penetrate the world and a woman through your core purpose. I highly recommend you borrow Way of The Superior man by David Deida.

In pu, you hear a lot of universal laws, law of attraction, law of state transference; take whatever you are passionate about, take all your innate talents, and share it with the world. You will turn a profit. Think about the giving. When you are in the presence of a woman, use the law of state transference; project the things you are most passionate about in life in your interaction, and attract her. When having sex, take all that you are passionate about in life, and let that fuel you during. By being in alignment with my core purpose, I have become a more attractive person, and its converted over quite nicely in pu. I wish the same for you on your life journey.

The thing about a core purpose is that, it takes precedence over everything in your life including a woman meaning, she becomes a priority but, not the top of the list. So many men lose sight of their goals and core purpose in life. A woman picks up on up on this and they find a new man because he is not living at his edge. He makes her the prize in his life.

Sometimes I go out and I don't spend a coin. I'll maybe buy a drink, pay for parking, that's about it. Sometimes I'll end up spending a lot. If you go on your own then you can spend very little.

If you're struggling with money then you need to be more structured with your spending. Achieving financial independance is a great aim but in the meantime more than likely you are going to be on a fixed regular income.

Sit down and work out what your fixed costs are and put that money aside. You need to know how much your rent costs, utility bills, transport costs to/from work, credit card bills, loans, etc. These can't be dodged and if you do you'll end up in financial shit in a couple of months. Whatever this amount comes to, subtract that from your monthly salary, whatever is left divide by 4 and that's your weekly allowance.

Track exactly what you spend off that allowance and if you blow it you go hungry til next week (you learn quick when it happens). I use an app on my phone to track spending.

Sounds anal but it really gets you on top of what you've got available to spend. It can even get some savings built up.

It really depends on what your lifestyle is like man... this is a pretty weird question.

Make as much money as you need to make. If you're not making enough, make more. If you don't know how to make more.. learn

Thinking along the lines of this. Checkout youtube channels like Jairek Robbins, Tai Lopez, Martin Seratonino, and others to get the thinking cap and juices flowing. You do not need to come up with a game changing idea to revolutionize the world. You can take something that already exists and make it better. Be a game changer. Dedicating your life to chasing down women is a quick way to go broke and end up in the poor house with nothing going on for you. If you never got women in your life, this is a problem, and means you are failing at life. Cover all your bases.