What if you were to have only one sexual partner your whole life? What if two virgins married each other and stayed with each other their whole lives.

Would this create some sort of incredible bond that 99% of people today just don't experience? Would that significantly cut down the divorce rate we see today? If more people had this view point that is.

No, it would not.

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This.

If you can't make a girl cum ONE single time for 6 months or so of married life because you didn't make any effort to polish your bedroom skills, that marriage is likely headed to the rocks sooner than later. Or maybe, the girl cheats without your knowledge for several years while you're raising kids you thought were yours but were in fact the postman's, the plumber's, the tv repairman's and the pizza delivery boy's children.

Your future wife might even be banging the entire football team while she appears to be prim and proper while praying in the church with you.

Moreover, the only surefire way to know if a woman is a virgin is when you fuck her. How would you know if a woman is a virgin if you didn't fuck her before marriage? Will you divorce the woman you married after you find out at the honeymoon that she's no longer a virgin, hmm?

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I'll go back to the club analogy. It's gonna sound really cult-like and weird, but it's really not.

So anyway, you're taught at a very young age that sex is only for married couples, so you grow up with that concept in your mind. Naturally, when we hit puberty and start dating, the people who's belief system was not as developed/engrained in them or who don't care about about the religion/being part of the club start having sex. Those people are usually kicked out of the club because they didn't meet the requirements and weren't sorry about it.

The girls that I'm looking at within the club are usually nice girl-next door types. Really wholesome, still live with their parents, help old ladies cross the street types. The ones that actually care about being part of the club and their religion. They still have personalities outside of their religious beliefs, but it's still a huge part of their lives.

And isn't this how most people lived back a few generations ago? I mean, most people's great/grandparents had just one sexual partner their whole lives, and those previous generations had way lower divorce rates than we had now. Call me naive, but I think it's society's viewpoint today. If it doesn't work out, fuck it, get divorced. People give up too easily. Having multiple sexual partners is prevalent of that mindset and culture. The respect for marriage and sex isn't there anymore.

And can't you just get good with your wife? Both of you would be virgins (assuming of course she cares/ has the same values as you), yes you would both suck at the beginning, but you wouldn't have anything to compare it to. You would only get better with time right?

Nope, some people were sexually promiscuous back in the day, they just hid it better.

Classic example? The Scarlet Letter. Hester Prynne has a child out of wedlock, gets caught, then gets shamed by wearing a big scarlet 'A' for adultery.

Why does it happen more today than in olden times? People can get away with more sexually nowadays. That's why divorce, cheating, etc. are more mainstream. However, it's always been around. In previous times, these ideas were less socially acceptable. Men and women either stayed in an unhappy relationship or had secret trysts.

I can't speak for the people who are still religious. I've seen people who've fallen out of religion though and they tend to be extremely sexually deviant from being restricted for so long.

People aren't designed to be monogamous. We're meant to have multiple sexual partners. It's hardwired into a man's DNA to spread his seed among the healthiest possible mates to increase the chances of his offspring surviving.

I'll answer your questions for you...

If you were to only have one sexual partner your entire life, I guarantee the sex would SUCK. It would be like two retards running around in a padded room chasing after a bouncy ball. I've had my fair share of sexual partners. I've learned something from each and every one of them. I've had older women really teach me how to please a woman. I've had younger women I've taught how to please a man. Had I only ever experienced sex with one woman, I wouldn't be as good as I am in bed.

This "bond" that you are talking about... You are talking crazy nonsense. You can have AWESOME bonds and connections with more than one person. Stop thinking that there is only 1 person out of the 7.2 billion total on this planet that is going to be perfect for you. I've had plenty of girls where we shared those experiences that you remember for the rest of your life. Not just one girl.

Who gives a fuck about the divorce rate? Like I said, people aren't meant to be monogamous. The amount of people that cheat on their spouses hasn't really changed over the years (as the "divorce rate" has climbed) but its the amount of people that get CAUGHT cheating that has increased. Think about how much technology has fucked us over. I've had a girl stop talking to me because of a Facebook picture of me with my hand up some girls skirt and text messages from other girls... back in the day, you didn't have those ways of getting caught doing shit.

I've worked with plenty of religious students and I'll tell you this... All of you have had this thought POUNDED into your head since you were a kid that "sex is special and should only be shared with the one you love." Sex is natural dude. Sex isn't special. It's two creatures fucking with the purpose of reproducing. It's not special. Is it fun? Hell yeah it is. Does it feel good? Damn right it does. But is it dirty or wrong? I guess that depends on your views on it... But the best thing about life is reality is subjective.

See, you were brought up with these religious beliefs... which is fine. Believe in what you want to believe in... But that goes both ways. Don't believe what you believe in because your parents told you that you have to believe in it. Believe in what you believe in because its going to make you happy.

Hope this helps

I completely agree that reality is subjective, when you apply that principle, there is no absolute truth. It's all relative.

I guess it's that exact same reasoning that drove me to religion, to really learn about the bible and make the teachings my own. If I didn't have that in my life, then what would be my anchor? What basis would I have for any sort of morality? It's all relative right? In a weird way, it's what keeps me sane haha. It's the only set of "rules" that are indisputable truths in my life, absolutes. It's what I measure everything else against. That's just my viewpoint at least.

I'm not trying to get all preachy or turn this into a religious discussion or whatever, we're all just here to get better with girls after all.

And some people may call me weak minded also. A lot of atheists say that, that religion is the pill that the weak minded swallow when they can't accept the reality that this is all there is, that there is nothing beyond what you see and when you die that's it. Again, to me that just seems so, hollow, chaotic really. If there is no absolute truth then what's stopping me from shooting up all the drugs I can find and fuck everything that moves? What basis is there for any sort of social norm or greater purpose?

To me it just makes more sense to live within the guidelines that God gives us. They are not restrictions, prohibitions or things that are forbidden, rather, they are loving advice that a father gives us. It's like, he knows what's best for us and tells us how to live our lives the best way possible, but it's up to us to actually take that knowledge and apply it. It's like we're toddlers and God is the parent giving us the option of following his advice or not. At the end of the day, we'll see that it's really better to live by his advice since he is so much wiser than us. We're not qualified to run our own lives, just like a toddler isn't capable of raising himself.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now hahaha

Until you have a photo of god or a youtube video of him telling us how to live, the US legal system would call that hearsay.

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This is social psychology.

If you're brought up in a community where you're taught to only sleep with the person you're married to and remain in that community you'll have closer to 99% chance of not committing adultery. Not 99% but a pretty high percentage that you won't.

The problem with today's society is you're told it's essentially okay to cheat, it's acceptable... but you shouldn't as it's your moral obligation to your partner not to. That's it in a nutshell. The more exposed you are to adultery the more acceptable it becomes. Think of pop-culture and the insane amounts of people who do exactly what their idols say and do. All those kids seeing Milye Cyrus smoking a joint? If they still support the chick they're going to look differently at a joint.

The proof is in different cultures around the world. Look at extreme Christians or Mormons. On a grandeur scale look to China, North Korea or any other strict countries. They won't be as easy to lay or cheat with as in Western society.

Also, there are psychological studies on this exact thing. Look it up.

Let's discuss primal instincts based on our genetic coding.

Around 98.8% of human DNA are similar with chimpanzees and bonobo apes. I know, I know. The bible did not discuss anything about DNA nor dinosaur bones that turned up buried deep in the soil.

Bonobo apes and chimpanzees meanwhile share 99.6% of similar DNA. What makes us human and different from both bonobos and chimpanzees is that seemingly miniscule 0.8% difference [99.6 - 98.8]. What makes us truly human and not monkeys at all is that 1.2% difference in our DNA [100 - 98.8].

In many ways, when men go to war, we are like chimpanzees who go to war. It's usually a battle for resources because those males who have greater resources like food get the pussy. Females compete to get laid with the alpha chimpanzee because in doing so, their survival is assured and they'll have strong, well fed babies.

The alpha chimpanzee can call on other male chimpanzees to go to war and invade another group of chimpanzees. But of course, this war-like behavior happens due to the scarcity of resources in chimpanzee environments. If they don't go to war, they'll starve from food deprivation and pussy deprivation. It's an oversimplification, I know, but it brings home the point.

So you think the alpha chimpanzee gets laid all the time? Nah. He only gets laid when the female chimpanzees are fertile or at their peak ovulation period. Kinda sad, hmm?

At any rate, let's proceed with our discussion on morality.

So how is this chimpanzee war behavior related to human morality?

For a start, to motivate men to go to war, one religion proposes an incentive system-- 72 virgins. On the other hand, the rival religion promises a land of milk and honey where one will not go hungry or lack in food what so ever.

Now, let's look at the bonobos. Unlike chimpanzees, bonobos are peaceful. They don't go to war. They have sex all of the time. They're very sexual and playful creatures. There's no such thing as an alpha male bonobo.

The reason? Bonobo environments are food rich. They have an abundance mentality. Female bonobos can seduce any cock they want and male bonobos can bang any pussy they want.

If we look at pick up with a DNA perspective, one seduction approach is the chimpanzee approach (be the alpha male, be the leader) and on the opposite end the bonobo approach (be sexual and playful, have an abundance mentality).

If we look at morality as religion proposes it, it's really about getting pussy. The formula goes like this:

Abundant food --> Abundant Pussy --> Peace

Scarce food --> Scarce Pussy --> War

Christianity Concept of Heaven = Abundant Food

Islamic Concept of Heaven = Abundant Virgins

Therefore, banging lots of pussies is moral. Only the dominant religions complicate sex.

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The problem with Christianity is that the modern bible was altered by St. Paul (an asexual weirdo) and sex became this big sinful thing, the harmful pleasures of the flesh etc. It fucked up women's way of thinking and actually made them think about sex from a very very young age (far younger than atheist or lay Christian children learn about sex in sex ed). "Original sin" is the biggest pile of bullshit known to man. I'd rather worship cows. Remember Carrie's mom from Stephen King's book? That's what happens when you're force-fed "original sin". A nymphomaniac who hates herself for being a nymphomaniac.

If we're going to talk about true religious monogamy, find a Muslim woman in an Arab country. She DEFINITELY won't cheat on you

Which is down to social psychology...

Christianity as a whole is extremely lax when it comes to sex and consent in recent years. Turn back the clocks and you'll find people ate it up and were much less inclined to cheat. All that you see on TV is based in America and is mostly bullshit. Even the swingin' sixties was an American thing. Social perception.

Going back to what you said about Muslim women in Arab countries: Yep, it's true because it's been engrained in their culture. All this rubbish about hardwiring and what not is pseudoscience. There's no merit to it what so ever and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Talk to a geneticist about hardwiring and they're going to call you out on any of the pseudocrap you come out with about how it affects us as a whole. There's no real correlation to it and anything you do find is seriously flawed and open to interpretation or simply doesn't take into account psychological factors.

Cheating in todays society(Western culture) is as high as it is because there's no real punishment for it or repercussions. Guys cheat and they're given a pat on the back because the chick they fucked was hot as hell. Women cheat because they're told they deserve an orgasm and if their man can't do it then they've got a free pass because hey, the guy drove them to it, right? Wrong. This play of sexuality in adultery is all down to social perception and it's unbalanced. If you're in a bad relationship for whatever reason it's an excuse to cheat even if it's a bad part of the road you're on in your relationship -- something you should otherwise be able to fix and get over. Even when you look at the various arguments spewing from moron to moron about what's fair and what's not is completely convoluted. Feminist: "It's okay for men to sleep around. They're assholes, why can't we do it if men do it?" How about saying "It's not right to sleep around and men shouldn't do it"? How about instead of giving out about what you percieve another person as doing as wrong that you actually reinforce the wrongness of it and condition them to not do it?

All this back patting, excusing either sex for rights or wrongs is bad, plain and simple no matter what way you look at it. We're humans and as humans we are open to conditioning and it's conditioning which shapes us as a whole. It's the most solid basis in behavioural psychology and is well established. Therefor no matter how much of a horn dog you are if you've been conditioned not to cheat, fuck anything you see you will have a much higher chance of avoiding it.