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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:34 pm 
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I'm 25, I live at home with my parents, I'm broke, I'm balding, I'm overweight, and I didn't kiss my first girl until the beginning of this year. Then I went on to have sex with 13 women, some older, some younger, some fat, some thin, one a model. I dated four women at once. I have two fuck buddies currently. I got a blowjob in a bathroom at a bar from a 22 year old college student. I picked up a woman in an hour and forty minutes of meeting her. And in this series of post, I'm going to tell you how I did all of it and hope you all can learn from what I've done and feel encouraged. This will be the rules I've built for myself and follow. The strategies I've used. The techniques I've honed. The stories I've told (and how I came up with them, I think anyone can come up with unique and fun stories if they follow my simple formula). And the gambits that I play. I went from a fat loser to pink abundance and never worrying about if I'll get laid again.

The Rules I Live By
1. All Systems Have Their Benefits, Find One, Work It, Then Learn From Someone Else And Add To What You Know. I recommend Love Systems or Mystery Method. These two systems give you a Step By Step 1-2-3 Beginning, Middle, End process that is wonderful to later build on. I notice that I've become far more direct from when I began with these systems, but, only because once I understand the system, I know the process that all attraction does seem to naturally flow. Are there exceptions? Of course. I got laid once because a girl was huffing in the corner, I got into proximity, and she said, "I can't stand my boyfriend, he freaking cheated on me again." I looked at her and said, "The Best Revenge is Happiness... but if you can't be happy, might as well join the fun." Put my hand on her shoulder and kissed her and that worked. Whatever system you use, work it for at least a month, putting 2 hours of practice for every 1 hour of study in that system.

2. Be Self-Assured. Forget about confident. Forget about Alpha Maleness. Self-Assuredness is the ultimate state that you can be in. A self-assured man is a man who knows who he is, what he wants, what he can offer, and makes no apologies for his desires. Confidence is what other people observe in you. Not something you do. Being a person of value isn't about having interesting stories, though fun stories that so different sides of your personality do have their purpose. Your value comes from knowing who you are, what you have to offer, and what you want and fully accepting these things and appreciating them and loving them as part of yourself. It's about valuing yourself, which means that no one can shake it.

3. ABC (Always Be Challenging): It's called many things: Teasing, Negging, Push/Pull, Cold and Hot. Women want a man that will challenge them. A woman will challenge you and the more you can throw it back, the more attractive she becomes. There are two ways of throwing it back. One, ignoring her. Two, teasing her about it. That's it, never defend, never apologize. You either ignore it and change the topic, or tease her about being offended. I one time told a woman that Hypnosis can fix everything that is you, and every time I met her, she kept saying, "He wants to fix me." I made the amateur mistake of trying to say that's not what I was doing. Then the next time she said it, I said, "Are you still on that, I swear, your obsessed with me, you want me to fix you, and that's just so unattractive. I can definitely fix your harping about me wanting to fix you." Next day called her and said, "So, let's go out to eat and we can see what I'll fix first..." Don't back down. I would've gotten the date quicker had I been more challenging. Also, being challenging disarms a woman. I tell women that they have to take me out, that I won't put out on the first date, but, that I want to be wine and dined. And I've had women actually take me out, why, cause it's different.

4. ABF (Always Be Flirting): Every woman you meet, you should be flirtatious with. Why, because one, it'll get you use to flirting uber fast. Two, once your framed as a flirt, you can get away with saying just about anything to women. They shrug it off and just say, He's flirty. Also, that means that you're sexualized in their eyes, and you risk nothing by asking one of the women out... It also creates that feeling of being chosen and special for a woman, when, out of all the people you flirt with and make feel good, you choose her to go out with.

5. Don't Chase'em, Replace'em: I can't stress this enough. This is the affirmation that changed everything in my life. I don't chase them, I replace them. It's a pimp logic, but, it's a powerful logic. Women have been chasing men for years. those men aren't the best looking, they're not the cream of the crop, they're not Don Drapers. No, more times than not they're Charles Manson looking fools. Looks don't make a woman chase. Looks make a woman look. When I say don't chase, I mean emotionally, I mean physically, I mean in all aspects. Why do programs like Mystery Method have a compliance hierarchy, because compliance is investment, Consistency is major in the psyche of people. It's a law of persuasion. People will go out of their way to be consistent. This is why you lead them, both emotionally and physically, and then, when you pull back, if you've tethered everything right, they'll chase you. If they don't. Move on to someone else. Men have lost many a fortune by chasing a woman, rarely has a man lost a woman chasing a fortune.

This has been part 1: The Next 5 Rules Will Be Out Shortly!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:28 am 
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I think your second point, "be self-assured", is just another way to view it, but it is actually exactly what it means to be confident and an "alpha male". Many seem to think an alpha male is some bad-ass ganster who speaks loud with tons of attitude and cannot really relate to other people. To me, and alpha male is more like this:

http://www.traitsofthealphamale.com/77/

Your fifth point "don't Chase'em, Replace'em" is also called "attitude of abundance" in RSD-terms. Or simply "don't be needy". I mention this so you can connect the dots, because there are so many terms and theories in this community that people easily get lost. Relating terms to each other like this makes it easier to understand everything.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:11 am 
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Good post!

I think Rule 1 should be stressed more on these forums. You'll just lose your way in pick up if you branch out too much... I don't think newbies should be listening to the nonsense some people try to force on you by claiming method X is out of date or method Y is the be all end all. MM is great for structure. It's a simple step-by-step guide into PUA and gives you a frame to work from. The Nature just fills in the gaps and gives you posture, beliefs and understandings which makes MM and Natural a strong combo.


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Rule 6: Never Be Boring. This is the cardinal rule in my opinion. You can do many things to a woman, but when you become boring, that ends it. When you're meeting a woman, when you're getting to know her, the worst thing you can do is bore her. As I've said, I continue to add to my learning constantly. Mehow's Ten Second Sexual Attraction formula is a great example of never be boring. In the initial communication, keep your responses to ten minutes, offering rewards or punishments for their responses to you is a great way to be challenging and entertaining. False Time Constraints, whether you're going direct or not, I've found invaluable to creating a positive and open dialogue that they're not worrying about will be boring. Cause they know you're going to leave soon.

Rule 7: Be Desireless: You're there to have fun, to meet people, to connect with people. The "Sexual Abundance" mindset that someone wrote is said in RSD, is key. A guy that knows he can get laid, doesn't put much stress into getting laid. He's there to have fun and to connect and to meet women. He doesn't care if they respond the way he wants them to. Rob Judge and Zack Bauer have a program out where they have a technique called The Pacino. This has been hugely successful for me. It's where you keep going as if someone has responded the way you wanted. Also, as Mehow and other's have pointed out, the goal is to be Self-Amusing. You're there to have fun.

Rule 8: Practice and Rejection Is Key: The biggest thing I think gives the PUA community such a bad name is it's marketing. Let's face it, each book, program, and more, usually comes with the tag line, "Any Woman, Any Time, Anywhere!" Now, the any time and any where part are true. But, I've been rejected more than four hundred times, just getting a number, met and talked to and flirted with more than 500 women, and have had sex with a total of 13 of them. Now, I didn't go out to just hit on women, I was with friends some times, I was living my life, I just keep practicing these techniques constantly and every time someone I'm attracted to comes into my radar. When I started, I didn't get a number until the 80th woman I talked to, then, I got my second number by the 100th. By the time I reached 500 women, I had collected about 150 numbers. As you can see, I progressively got better and better. I've had one bar pull. I've had one blowjob in a bathroom. The rest were all dates. 2 were on line. 3 were social circle which means out of 500 approaches, I got 8 lays. Also from 0 to 300 I got about 2 lays. From 300 to 500 I've gotten the other 6. All of this suggest that I'm getting better and better at meeting, attracting, and seducing women into bed. But it takes practice. Lots of it. Leaving behind ego. Watching as things work. Taking note when you make a mistake. (I've got stories of missed opportunities, poor logistics, and pushing too far too fast). You've got to learn to love the rejection. As it says, in failure you learn more than in success. You'll begin to recognize signs better, see clearer signals, and push the interaction further quicker with the right women.

Rule 9: Never Assume: This was my biggest mistake. Several girl's that I have gotten laid by, I had assumed wouldn't be interested in me. A lot of women whose numbers I've gotten, much like Neil did in The Game, I didn't bother calling cause I assumed they just weren't interested. My assumptions have probably cost me a lot of women. I know that when I've pushed past my assumptions, 50% of the time, I was wrong, and the woman was interested. Don't begin to assume you know what a woman is interested in. The model I dated, who had broken up with a guy that had about 6% body fat, had a thing for heavier guys, and loved my bigger body. Never assume. You don't know what a woman is into. And because of that, once you realize that all women have different interest, don't take their rejection to heart. You just weren't her type.

Rule 10: Push Every Interaction: Self-explanatory, but, when you're getting started, you get scared. I know I did. So, I wouldn't go for the insta-date. I wouldn't go for the number. I'd stop touching. I wouldn't go for the kiss. Every interaction initially, I'd be too scared to push it. Why? I don't know why. Afraid of what they'd think, afraid of coming off as socially awkward, afraid of not doing the right thing. Just afraid. Hey, I don't know. But, that's how it kept happening. And it sucked. that's when I decided that I would push every interaction. Gunwitch had a statement in The Game, "Touch Her To The Ho Says No." Escalate until you see discomfort. When you see discomfort, take two steps back, reorient yourself, build the comfort back, and push forward again.


Next piece I write will be on Verbal Game, a lot of which I take from NLP, Speed Seduction, and Mystery Method... I never did get why Jeffries hates Mystery Method so much, the two together are uber effective in my opinion. But more on that in my next post.


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