Hey guys,

I know i've been asking a lot of questions which may seem similar to this recently, but hopefully I can get together a more comprehensive plan of action this time.

I met this girl, we'll call her "lioness" 3 weeks or so ago at a club. Gamed her with my magic/mind reading and some good lines, I mean honestly, I was shit-hot that night. K-closed that night, friends dragged her off home before I could #-close. My friend "nate" had been chatting to her friend however and had her friend's number.

I found lioness on facebook 2 days later and messaged her, gave her my number, and for a few days there was an almost constant text/facebook convo going on.

She has a pay as you go cell phone though so she runs out of credit sometimes and it can cut convo's off unexpectedly.

Anyway, she asked me if I was playing hard to get as i'd sometimes freeze her out for the majority of a day, I said, "No, but I thought you were?" and she replies, "Kind of."

So I know she likes games...I think.

Anyway, after a couple of flake outs (legit. excuses I believe), I saw her on Wednesday for a day date. It was awesome. We hung out all day in London, holding hands the whole time, I showed her I'm funny, knowledgeable about cool places to hang out in London and she had a good time. We K-closed at the train station as I dropped her off there and she even said, "Thanks for a really good day, I had fun."

I get back home, and she's left me a comment on facebook saying "dikhed x" as a jokey thing, she calls me that sometimes affectionately.

So she flaked out fri night (again, pretty sure it's a legit excuse), and yesterday I texted her and basically said, "Hope you have had fun at work today. I'm taking my sister out to London tonight (DHV?) but i'll try and "call you". Called, no reply. Saw her on MSN when I got back in and she's generally being v. quiet. Asked what was up, she thinks i'm being kinda stressy, I put her mind at ease that i'm not.

I said, "are you around tomorrow?" She says, "yes". I say, "Wanna do the evening?" "Oh, sorry, seeing my friend "kate"." "So you're not around tomorrow? :s" "Well only in the morning, sorry!" "Okay, well let me know when you're around, i'm sure you wanna see me before Wednesday" (We're gonna see eachother on Wed at this club anyway) "yes I do!!" Then she went offline, no goodbye nothing. I texted her pretty much straight away saying something along the lines of "I hope you don't think i'm stressy etc, i'm tired. Sorry, i'll call you tomorrow." And then this morning I texted her saying "Are you out all day today? Facebook me or something and i'll call you when it's good." Nothing as of yet.

I realise i'm being very AFC since Wed and I know I maybe need to freeze her out but i'd like to see her monday night pref. or maybe even tues night but how can I arrange if I never hear from her? I'm always the one who calls or whatever and fair enough if she doesn't have credit but you'd think she'd make the effort? Or maybe i'm wrong and she loves gaming me? All I know is that on Wednesday she was so into me...like we were already bf and gf.

Also, I'm working the clubnight on wednesday and I have a double hotel room booked for that night as part of my fee. Do I mention that to her, even though she'd have to split up from her friends at the end of the night to stay with me and not them or is it too soon? She has mentioned about how she'd like to stay with me before.

Mixed messages!?

Please help.

Cheers,

Wilde

She's gaming you. Pure and simple. Do more push/pull on her and freeze her out for a few days.

too much too much too much..

if you're going to see her on wed anyways, dont seem so ansy..you 'have other things to do too' from what i got, youve been talking to her in one form or another since you saw her..it can be abit overwhelming..

dont send anything until she sends something back now, and if you see her on wed, dont jump straight at her..give it a while, be seen to talk to other girls..then you cn make a move once she's seen you and started wondering.."when is he going to talk to ME"

i'll add a few more things later on..got to go grab some food

Alright cool, look forward to it!

Just as an update, unprovoked she sent me a facebook message a few minutes ago saying "alrite sexxyy x"

I played it cool, replied "Yeah thanks, been really busy today, crazy! How did seeing (her friend's name) go? x"

noooooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooo...!
you're being too predictable..

be colder dont answer next time she sends..and if you feel the uncontrolable need to do so..delay it by a couple of hours

but be short

Will she not think i've lost interest/gotten stressy with her?

No offense but you just don't get it.

You're in AFC mode:-

Does this ring a bell?

"So she appears to be into me, but she let me down. This is too good an opportunity to waste. Maybe if I just show her how much she means to me, she'll understand? I can't just ignore her. I'll look back in x amount of years and think - I wasted an opportunity."

You sucking up to her is going to have a negative effect on your possible relationship. You are SENDING out signals that it is OK for her to fuck you around.

Keep frosty, thread that needle. Wait for her to call/message you. When she does you will be able to flip those attraction switches to greater effect.

SIMPLE.

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what do you mean by "gotten stressy?"

how can you get stressy with someone? are you sure you're interpreting right?

she knows you're interested in her..and if she thinks you've lost interest..well good..on wednesday you can prove her wrong and 'sweep' her off her feet..woohoo

Right on, I see...

Tweeby, when you say "switch those attraction switches" how do you mean?

This is a transcript of an MSN convo that just happened:



L... says:
aah quelle dommage
O says:
comment?
L... says:
pardon?
O says:
haha
O says:
it means why?
L... says:
ooh! ahah well i dont no reli sugar, im not even sure wot i means/
O says:
"aah what a shame"
O says:
weirdo.
L... says:
aahh thts shit
O says:
what, your french?
L... says:
mais oui
O says:
yeah i'd say that's about right
L... says:
do yu want a fight mate? ill ave yu
O says:
alright then
L... says:
aha calm it o
O says:
you started it.
O says:
evilz.
L... says:
o?
O says:
yes...
L... says:
x
O says:
thanks.
O says:

talking too much

obviously inventing bad things to convo about

sign out

say you're busy tnight and that you'll talk soon

wait till wednesday

say you got internet problems or something..

i think with this girl you're better at the physical part rather than the talking part

In essence, it comes down to cat-string theory.

The less eager you appear the more the wants you, hence a greater rush when/if you two get it on.

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I'm not even sure what the hell I read in that MSN convo...

But yeah, from your other posts, I'd say don't talk so much. Don't use 5 sentences when one will do. Don't keep IMing/texting her to make sure she is ok, if she signs off without saying bye who cares? You will see her Wednesday, so see her then... 3 days never killed someone.

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I'm sorry if I'm going to offend you with this post but it has to be said:

WTF DO YOU NOT GET WHEN WE SAY FREEZE HER OUT?
DONT TALK TO HER
DONT TXT HER
DONT CALL HER

You can do all that during wednesday, until then DO NOT DO ANYTHING

If you are on and she tried to talk to you, just say you are busy or something.

If she gets mad then, c'est la vie..just keep going.

Yes i speak french =)

Your starting to piss her off by over bearing her,you can talk to her but dont over do it.Wait until Wed becasue you can then talk face to face instead of chatting it up on MSN.You need to leave her..im not saying dont txt or talk to her jsut dont do it as much and also if your going to text have a good reason.Becasue"just wondering how your doing" will start to get on her nerves and she wont have a good time on Wed



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Wilde, that was so painful to read. You have 50 freaking posts on this forum but you don't know jack crap about being a PUA yet. Go read the books and CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. If you keep this crap up, you'll chase off every HB you meet. Now for some advice:

WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE MESSAGING HER, GO SARGING INSTEAD. For christ's sake, meet some other women bro. Then you won't have to pretend to not be needy because you really won't be needy and she will like it!