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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:39 am 
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I was thinking that somehow the most respected and taken seriously people in most societies seem to be monogamous that don't sleep around, don't put girls high in their priorities and that often have solid families and/relationships around them.

PRESIDENTS:
Compare:
- Merkel/(most)US presidents: all in monogamous relationships with their "beautiful" families. All respected individual people listen to.
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- Berlusconi , sleeping around, a joke to most European counterparties;
- Gheddafi: moving around with an army of amazons to entertain him, considered an idiot the whole world over (friend of Berlusconi, maybe not by accident)


BUSINESS PEOPLE
- Warren Buffet: married a 60YO woman that her ex wife introduced to him, all 3 were good friends and possibly only had these 2 women;
- Ben Bernanke, current president of the FED, one long term wife two children;
- Alan Greenspan , former FED president, 2 wifes, certainly not the kind of guy you'd imagine sleeping around.
- Henry Paulson: former CEO of Goldman Sachs and Secretary of the Treasury during the financial crisis, one long term wife.

These are some of the most respected people whom you could hear talking.
It's hard to think of any highly respected person who places women (plural) high in his list, sleeps around and moves on frequently with relationships.

Of course if you think hard there'll be a few, but disproportionately the people that command the most respect and that are hold in the highest regards seem to have solid, long term relationship lives and don't bed hop even when they could do so very easily (because of fame, money etc.)




I think there are several reasons for it, but I'd like to hear your opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:44 pm 
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My opinion is that these people might as well be cheating on their wives without anyone knowing about it. They can hire high value prostitutes and keep things under the radar so no one knows. That is what wealth does, it is able to convey a high image for a person while at the same time hiding many things behind.

I'm not saying that these people did hire or slept around with many women, all I'm saying is that you don't have to believe everything you research about on the internet or read about in a magazine. The media does this to keep you entertained, not to expose people's lives and open their privacy for the whole world to see.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:33 pm 
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You have absolutely zero idea how many of these people are monogamous. This post is retarded.
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I was thinking that somehow the most respected and taken seriously people in most societies seem to be monogamous that don't sleep around, don't put girls high in their priorities and that often have solid families and/relationships around them.

PRESIDENTS:
Compare:
- Merkel/(most)US presidents: all in monogamous relationships with their "beautiful" families. All respected individual people listen to.
VS
- Berlusconi , sleeping around, a joke to most European counterparties;
- Gheddafi: moving around with an army of amazons to entertain him, considered an idiot the whole world over (friend of Berlusconi, maybe not by accident)


BUSINESS PEOPLE
- Warren Buffet: married a 60YO woman that her ex wife introduced to him, all 3 were good friends and possibly only had these 2 women;
- Ben Bernanke, current president of the FED, one long term wife two children;
- Alan Greenspan , former FED president, 2 wifes, certainly not the kind of guy you'd imagine sleeping around.
- Henry Paulson: former CEO of Goldman Sachs and Secretary of the Treasury during the financial crisis, one long term wife.

These are some of the most respected people whom you could hear talking.
It's hard to think of any highly respected person who places women (plural) high in his list, sleeps around and moves on frequently with relationships.

Of course if you think hard there'll be a few, but disproportionately the people that command the most respect and that are hold in the highest regards seem to have solid, long term relationship lives and don't bed hop even when they could do so very easily (because of fame, money etc.)




I think there are several reasons for it, but I'd like to hear your opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm 
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This post is not a radiant example of how to have constructive, respectful conversation.
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You have absolutely zero idea how many of these people are monogamous. This post is retarded.
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I was thinking that somehow the most respected and taken seriously people in most societies seem to be monogamous that don't sleep around, don't put girls high in their priorities and that often have solid families and/relationships around them.

PRESIDENTS:
Compare:
- Merkel/(most)US presidents: all in monogamous relationships with their "beautiful" families. All respected individual people listen to.
VS
- Berlusconi , sleeping around, a joke to most European counterparties;
- Gheddafi: moving around with an army of amazons to entertain him, considered an idiot the whole world over (friend of Berlusconi, maybe not by accident)


BUSINESS PEOPLE
- Warren Buffet: married a 60YO woman that her ex wife introduced to him, all 3 were good friends and possibly only had these 2 women;
- Ben Bernanke, current president of the FED, one long term wife two children;
- Alan Greenspan , former FED president, 2 wifes, certainly not the kind of guy you'd imagine sleeping around.
- Henry Paulson: former CEO of Goldman Sachs and Secretary of the Treasury during the financial crisis, one long term wife.

These are some of the most respected people whom you could hear talking.
It's hard to think of any highly respected person who places women (plural) high in his list, sleeps around and moves on frequently with relationships.

Of course if you think hard there'll be a few, but disproportionately the people that command the most respect and that are hold in the highest regards seem to have solid, long term relationship lives and don't bed hop even when they could do so very easily (because of fame, money etc.)




I think there are several reasons for it, but I'd like to hear your opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:29 pm 
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Well... they might be in "monogamous" relationships but not all of those are "monogamous".

One very respected person who fits your category is Hugh Hefner... one of the biggest feminists of the 20th century now pushing into the 21st century. Many other men have done the same, but because "you" don't consider them respectable doesn't mean many of us do.

Clinton was one of the best presidents and quite well respected... he was a serial cheater.

The fact that "Society" views polygamy as "wrong" means you could never become a "president" or other "upstanding" voted in job... because "society" views that as wrong they wouldn't get respect.

Sleeping around is actually more regular in Europe. One of the biggest reasons "photo" tickets were paid so quickly in France was due to the company in the car.... Europe has a much more open outlook on sex. If you'd like more on this concept try watching the Documentary (not show) Let's talk about Sex.

Most people "respect" politicians however I don't... I feel politicians are the scum of the world... they don't care about the greater good... only themselves and their own beliefs.

You respect monogamy and in doing so consider it respectable... that is your belief but don't try and push that perception on us.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:09 pm 
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What you're all saying is definitely part of the truth.

But I think there's also something more than that.

1. It's almost a necessity to have a stable relationship: successful people need to spend a lot of time in their trade so wouldn't have much time to chase multiple girls;

2. They tend to be very focused in their trade so they look for stability;

3. Their qualities are partially reflected in their relationship and as they are good in their life so they are in their relationships.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:10 pm 
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I also think long term relationships can enhance someone's credibility because:

1. He was able to screen all the girls around
to find the right one of his liking, similar to him with whom he had great chances to stay for the longer run.

2. He was able to get her.
And make her happy enough to stick around even while he was so busy doing his things;

3. He was able to make that relationship last for a long time.
Keeping dramas and short term whims at bay and making it through the hard times while still being happy together.


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You make a post based entirely on your assumptions about world leaders sex lives that is based on absolutely nothing whatsoever and want me to have a rational discussion about your idiotic conclusion (based on something you just made up with no evidence whatsoever?)? Yea, ok.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:17 pm 
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You make a post based entirely on your assumptions about world leaders sex lives that is based on absolutely nothing whatsoever and want me to have a rational discussion about your idiotic conclusion (based on something you just made up with no evidence whatsoever?)? Yea, ok.
Thanks but no, I don't like discussion with people using personal rude remarks.

Now we can cut it and avoid having some silly forum flaming :)


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What you're all saying is definitely part of the truth.

But I think there's also something more than that.

1. It's almost a necessity to have a stable relationship: successful people need to spend a lot of time in their trade so wouldn't have much time to chase multiple girlss
Tiger Woods, Bill Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and a host of other successful people might disagree with that. ;)

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What you're all saying is definitely part of the truth.

But I think there's also something more than that.

1. It's almost a necessity to have a stable relationship: successful people need to spend a lot of time in their trade so wouldn't have much time to chase multiple girlss
Tiger Woods, Bill Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and a host of other successful people might disagree with that. ;)
True, I said "success" when I should have said "commanding respect (across the board)".

Clinton might be an exception, and for sure there are many more (even though I wouldn't put Tiger and Arnold in that list), like the former IMF chief, but still the guys holding top decision making positions seem to be disproportionately in solid relationships...


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True, I said "success" when I should have said "commanding respect (across the board)".

Clinton might be an exception, and for sure there are many more (even though I wouldn't put Tiger and Arnold in that list), like the former IMF chief, but still the guys holding top decision making positions seem to be disproportionately in solid relationships...
Again, how on earth do you know if their relationships are solid? People would have said Arnold's relationship was solid until recently. You are just making stuff up with no basis in fact.

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True, I said "success" when I should have said "commanding respect (across the board)".

Clinton might be an exception, and for sure there are many more (even though I wouldn't put Tiger and Arnold in that list), like the former IMF chief, but still the guys holding top decision making positions seem to be disproportionately in solid relationships...
Again, how on earth do you know if their relationships are solid? People would have said Arnold's relationship was solid until recently. You are just making stuff up with no basis in fact.
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Lucifer, You have no clue what these men do in their spare times or the quality of their relationships.

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What you're all saying is definitely part of the truth.

But I think there's also something more than that.

1. It's almost a necessity to have a stable relationship: successful people need to spend a lot of time in their trade so wouldn't have much time to chase multiple girls;

2. They tend to be very focused in their trade so they look for stability;

3. Their qualities are partially reflected in their relationship and as they are good in their life so they are in their relationships.
Successful guys have women chase them.... Not sure your point here.

All you stated were your beliefs... not truths... a truth for you but not for everyone.

Are you saying Hugh Hefner doesn't have stability?

Now your beliefs about long term relationships are influencing things... Not really acceptable way to argue.

I feel most of us look at it as: Wow isn't he LUCKY that he got a WOMAN who would stand BEHIND HIM.

We all know a man invested elsewhere is never going to invest enough for most women. Let's not fool ourselves... For all we know the wives are doing the cheating.

You are saying politicians are good in life. Please move on to reality buddy... they are selfish belief monsters...

Society tends to have these perceptions and now you've gained them to.

Honestly bro... you're in way over your head.

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Just as a disclaimer: of course these are my ideas and not universal truths, there was no space in the subject to add "I seem to notice that... "


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