5 things never to do when you are trying to seduce a woman in a bar or club.

-1 Never give another girl your number nor ask for hers.

This has happened to me quite a few times and it took me awhile to get over my ego and realize that I can't have every girl. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the girl that's throwing herself at you for the girl that you already have.

One time I was hanging out with this awkward Brazilian girl who was very cute. She was a little on the chubby side but still sexy. We were making out and everything was good but as I ordered a Corona from the bartender I managed to strike up some banter with another girl who was a little bit cuter.

I continued to hang out with the Brazilian girl and her gay friend. I kept them satisfied socially and made out with the Brazilian girl here and there, so she got the emotional SPAM she needed.

Later, like 30 mins before the bar closed the cuter girl approaches me and starts to rap about how adorable she thinks I am and how she wants to hang out.

I give her my number and not even 3 seconds after that I have the Brazilian girl storming out of the bar with her gay friend.

-2 Never wait for a woman to make the move first.

I heard a basketball proverb that I believe Michael Jordan said, "You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take." Sound familiar?

This is directed at the majority of you morons who expect women to just fall in your lap like you are God's gift to women. I have a thing or two to tell you. You are never going to fuck the girls that you want if you expect that and if you do then you either resemble someone like Ian Somerhalder or have money like Warren Buffett.

Don't be afraid to approach hot girls. In fact only approach hot girls. No point waisting your time on something that is going to give you ugly kids if you accidentally knock her up either way.

-3 Learn the fundamentals of game.

If you are new to game then I suggest reading material such as The Tao of Bad Ass by Josh Pellicer, The Game by Neil Strauss, The Attraction Formula by Paul Janka and maybe dive into The Domino Effect by Justin Wayne for building a Romantic Connection.

All this material covers concepts such as openers, extremely applicable routines, escalation, relationships and much more.

Openers are what initiate the conversation with the girl.

Routines are for a variety of purposes. I personally use a few for getting a girl's number quickly. I also have others for getting her to hold hands with me. I have others that I use for kissing her and more for the intimate moments. Routines are what allow you to always have something unique to say that aid you in achieving whatever goals that you desire.

Escalation is the act of seducing a woman. Whether it be physical or mental. It is important to have an effective method or routine for escalation if you ever plan to have sex with her.

-4 Never give a girl more than 2 dates.

I firmly believe that if I am not getting sex by the second date then I am not getting sex ever. If you allow the interaction to progress beyond 2 dates then you are falling into a trap where the girl is going to bait you with sex in order to get you to jump through hoops. If you allow this then you will become no more to her than a dancing monkey.

The most satisfying relationships come when you have total control over your needs, whether they be sexual or mental. If she isn't able to give that to you then she is not compatible with you.

The act of telling her on date 2 that you are not going to continue seeing her if she doesn't give in, will show that you know what you want. If she is right for you then she will want it also. If she was trying to play you then she won't, it isn't worth dilly dallying. After 2 days you should know if you have chemistry enough to have sex. If she still isn't sure then she will never be sure and is wasting your time.

-5 When starting out you should view every date as a numbers game.

Although the art of seducing is not a numbers game, I truly think that if you view it as this in the beginning then it will help you accomplish a few important things with ease.

Among some of these things is sex. You will get sex because you view it this way. You will eventually come acrossed a damsel who is willing to fuck you. The more time you put in to meeting new women then the more sex you get out of it.

Another thing is comfort. You will feel more comfortable around women when you play it by numbers. This is because you will not worry that much when you get rejection because you know that eventually you will get what you want. The more successes that you encounter then the less rejection will bother you. You will eventually realize that women are disposable and not as hard to get as you once thought.

The last thing is fear of approach. The idea that it is just about numbers will allow you to get over that fear of approach. You will initiate your approach and realize that she is either interested or she is not.

It won't be earth shattering. It won't be embarrassing. It will just be part of the process. Nothing more and nothing less.

If a girl wants to give you a hard time then just flip her the bird and get on with your life because you will be fucking a chick just as hot or hotter in less than a week regardless.

So that's all I have to share with you guys today. Hope I was of help and enjoy the prowl.

-PUA Redsky

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Sounds pretty accurate! Although a lot of women have this "3 date rule" as a slut-shield..... quitting on the 2nd date might be quitting when ur inches away from paydirt

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Hmm, I'll take that into consideration.

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yeah, some of this is a little short sighted. Not taking randoms or club game into consideration I would say the average date to sex is around 2.3-2.5 dates. Some girls its two, others three. The first date is nothing special or expensive and mostly short in length unless we really hit it off. The second one is a proper date... not dinner and a movie. Usually something self amusing that I would do anyways. If by the third date the sexual vibe stalls then I move her back to the back burner and stop trying, soft next her. If shes not hot for me by now there is something wrong. In my experience the woman that makes you wait awhile is not worth the effort in the long run and shifts the value to her.

It should be noted that I hardly will put this much effort in anymore... Waste of time and my objectives with women are different than most.

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My personal mantra:

"Every woman's a whore in the right situation"
"They're all selling it for something"
"She's sluttier than you think she is"

OP - Your article was a load of patronising shit. The way you talk about women in general shows you are only after one thing and then when you get it ... what next? Move onto the next poor sucker. I'm not surprised so many of you fail to keep any kind of a relationship going for even 5 mins. You seriously have no idea how to treat women and the way you talk about them like they're just some kind of hole you can bang and then feel like a super hero afterwards shows just how fucking immature you all are. Aren't you ever yourselves or are you constantly playing all these stupid head fucking mind games to get what you want. A good fuck so you can feel like a real man. It's pathetic. Girls can see you coming a mile away and they can see right through your pretence at being the nice guy. Learn a new game instead of reading the crap on here.

Funny thing is, when I use a similar line on women: "You girls only want one thing from us men and once you get it, you leave us like a broken toy that you got bored of. I'm not some kind of meat that you can lust on. I'm a person too..." they laugh their butts off and keep on touching my erotic parts.

On the other hand, this coming from you gives off a creepy and irritating vibe.

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You could have said that with less agression... But I still agree with you though! PUA-material and techniques originate from successful behavior with women, and most of it started with Mystery. All his concepts have been more and more misunderstood during the years. Remember that "mean time to sex" is somewhere between 7-11 hours, no matter how many dates you have. You can have 11 one hour dates, or two 5-hour dates. Besides, even Mystery (back then) was a looser in my eyes, with all his routines and shit.

I could me more constructive than this and give you guys tips on books and elaborate on how to treat women. But I have already done so in so many of my other posts. So I'm not in the mood.