Hey guys,

I recently met this girl who has a 2 year relationship, but sometimes she "flirts" with me. I'm seeing a girl now and she's telling me, on an ironic tone, how she is very sad. She offered me to go to the shop for me in my exams.

A week ago we had this chat
She : where's your girl
Me : waiting for me at my house with a bunch of roses I guess hah
she : But now I'm here you're not planning to go there do you
Me froze*

Okay, I totally froze after that comment and didn't know what to say. Any suggestions? I have a lot of problems how to handle freezes ( like you cannot say a word ) in general.

My second question is : we go for a drink a lot together, watch some movies. If she were single I would have already highered up my game, but she's not and I have fear to go for kino escalation.
Anybody can help me how to gradually build this up with this girl?

Thanks

well, treat her like any other girl without a boyfriend.

if the boyfriend isn't there and she doesn't care then you shouldn't either.

she is sending you the IOI's man, just escalate with KINO anyways.

Thanks for your advice dude.

It took me some time, but I never was quite common with the kino.

I started the kino, and soon she was responding greating ( where I sometimes negged her with : heey not so fast, hands off;) )

The kiss came naturally.

Now a next question, we kiss/kino often but I feel that she doesn't want to have sex ( there is always that LMR ) because of her boyfriend. What should I do? I get her aroused but then she doesn't want to..

And another thing, how do I deal with the boyfriend thing? Do I say that she has to make a choice and break up with him and stay with me? I don't think so ! Any advice?

Vedere

if she doesn't want to have sex, it's your fault.

next time you see her and before you kiss her, slowly rub your fingers through her hands, like your giving her a pump of energy. then move to the ears with this same tactic, speed up!! but then slow down. make it seem like your pumping the energy, then slow down your speach, make every word seem important. that way she will look at you lips. that way, you have been leading up to this kiss, and she will be very aroused.

the more powerful the statements of energy are, the more aroused she will be. make her so aroused that she will just have sex with you, and then it will be an accident. then you can tell her it was an "accident, and unbeknown powers influenced your decision, so it doesn't count as cheating."

you have to do it so well, it will actually seem like an accident.

you don't have to use this method, but you need to make it seem accidental.

tell her that you have heard stories of many friends having sex, and it doesn't count as cheating, because it wasn't with a stranger.

make her feel comfertable, do NOT force her, or tell her something like, "it's my way or the highway," because then you will most likely only do it once.

Especially that last one is important !

Everything goes great.

She told me something like : errmm.. better stop.. my boyfriend.. not good..

And I answered : okay, chill, I don't care, you do whatever you want. Do what you think you must do ( however I like this girl A LOT ). After I said that she even liked me more and said she liked me too much.
( The AFC me before would have said : oooh please, don't abbandon me , I love you too much, dump him, love me, I want to do everything for you )

And for the rest : I'll wait to get further. Things are going great now and it doesn't need to speed up !

Thanks dude

I would have responded with,

"No, I suppose we'll have to go to your place instead."

^^^^^

That was in regards to your original post.

Mystery says to agree with her and do it anyway.

"This is so wrong."- Her
"I know. I feel the same way." - You

But then you keep kissing her. Get it?

u said u have a girlfriend too. is she also serious or is she more so a 10 night stand type thing.

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@ Jay wa

Yeah man ! I did it and it actually helped me .

@ King korona

I think the serious type. And if not, plenty of fish in the sea !



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This definitely works, about a month ago one of the girls I was with was the first girl to give strong LMR. She said she barely even kissed on the first date and every time she would say something I would agree but wouldn't stop. Occasionally I would slow it down for a bit but escalate later and I eventually got to the point where I fingered her and she rubbed me.
Though it didn't get that much farther on the first date. The second date is a different story though...

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