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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:59 pm 
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So I'll try to keep this short. A year ago I would have never dared to even think I'd ever game women the way I do now. Heck, a year ago I'd barely talk to women at all. The life I'm living right now would have seemed like an impossible dream then. Now I am this way and I just keep feeling incomplete.
This is not the only case where this happens. It happens all the time. I fancy a girl, eventually manage to date her, maybe get into a reltaionship but then I get bored quickly. When it ends I start regretting stuff more and more and eventually want to get back with her. My last relationship even was with this amazingly gorgeous girl I know many people would have been jealous of. Not only was she gorgeous, she had a great personality as well. However, after some dream-like nights and dates I got bored and started 'cheating' on her. She never found out but we split up which, again, I start regretting a lot now and want to get back with her.

This all seems like the same pattern. I want something or someone, I manage to achieve that goal and I get bored. I just want to achieve better and better everytime, never feel saturated nor complete and can't figure out what exactly is my goal right now.

Anyone know this feeling? I guess this is something very human since people want to achieve great things, but I feel like sometimes it gets waay too extreme in some cases for me.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:22 pm 
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So I'll try to keep this short. A year ago I would have never dared to even think I'd ever game women the way I do now. Heck, a year ago I'd barely talk to women at all. The life I'm living right now would have seemed like an impossible dream then. Now I am this way and I just keep feeling incomplete.
This is not the only case where this happens. It happens all the time. I fancy a girl, eventually manage to date her, maybe get into a reltaionship but then I get bored quickly. When it ends I start regretting stuff more and more and eventually want to get back with her. My last relationship even was with this amazingly gorgeous girl I know many people would have been jealous of. Not only was she gorgeous, she had a great personality as well. However, after some dream-like nights and dates I got bored and started 'cheating' on her. She never found out but we split up which, again, I start regretting a lot now and want to get back with her.

This all seems like the same pattern. I want something or someone, I manage to achieve that goal and I get bored. I just want to achieve better and better everytime, never feel saturated nor complete and can't figure out what exactly is my goal right now.

Anyone know this feeling? I guess this is something very human since people want to achieve great things, but I feel like sometimes it gets waay too extreme in some cases for me.
Are you living out your dreams? If not... Do it. Then you will be happy.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:23 pm 
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You are not made to be in Long term relationships. Right now you need to work on your behavior because cheating on girls is not acceptable. Come on man, she is gorgeous and gave you a chance and you repay her by cheating on her? I say stick to ONS until you are ready to handle real relationships.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:51 pm 
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So I'll try to keep this short. A year ago I would have never dared to even think I'd ever game women the way I do now. Heck, a year ago I'd barely talk to women at all. The life I'm living right now would have seemed like an impossible dream then. Now I am this way and I just keep feeling incomplete.
This is not the only case where this happens. It happens all the time. I fancy a girl, eventually manage to date her, maybe get into a reltaionship but then I get bored quickly. When it ends I start regretting stuff more and more and eventually want to get back with her. My last relationship even was with this amazingly gorgeous girl I know many people would have been jealous of. Not only was she gorgeous, she had a great personality as well. However, after some dream-like nights and dates I got bored and started 'cheating' on her. She never found out but we split up which, again, I start regretting a lot now and want to get back with her.

This all seems like the same pattern. I want something or someone, I manage to achieve that goal and I get bored. I just want to achieve better and better everytime, never feel saturated nor complete and can't figure out what exactly is my goal right now.

Anyone know this feeling? I guess this is something very human since people want to achieve great things, but I feel like sometimes it gets waay too extreme in some cases for me.
Are you living out your dreams? If not... Do it. Then you will be happy.
Living out your dreams. What exactly do you mean with that? Right now I am exceeding my dreams I used to have a year ago. In another year I will probably be living my current dreams. Life's getting better and I feel like everyday I am becoming something more. A better man. I feel like I'm growing and I'm gaining valuable experience. I am doing nothing but trying to hunt my dreams. Going out sarging for girls, spending as much time with friends as possible, buying things I could have only wished owning. Yet still, everytime I reach that one dream I used to have I quickly get this incomplete feeling where I either feel lonely, empty or just need more. This kind of feeling that I think will eventually bring me to impossible to reach things. Getting me to that point where improving personally is not possible because I am not capable of doing so anymore at that point. That point where I'd break down because I don't see the purpose or possibilities anymore. Not in a down way where I don't see the purpose of life anymore, don't worry. I am just the kind of person who always wants to improve. Not to brag, but to prove to myself and others what I am capable of. It's kind of hard to explain but I'm rather sure most people on here have this same kind of feeling every now and then. After all, everyone on here is looking for a way to improve their PU skills or else they wouldn't be on here. Everyone here is trying to improve and we all get that one point where we think we can't do better but still want better. If we did not, what's the reason we do not just go out, find a gorgeous smart woman and spend the rest of our lifes with her?
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You are not made to be in Long term relationships. Right now you need to work on your behavior because cheating on girls is not acceptable. Come on man, she is gorgeous and gave you a chance and you repay her by cheating on her? I say stick to ONS until you are ready to handle real relationships.
I know I am not. Age is not important but I consider myself too young to be in a serious relationship. I know most people of my age have been or are in a serious relationship, but they are all too unstable to last a lifetime and I don't consider those much more than just having a partner who you can share a bed and thoughts with, untill the day it ends and we go out and find another woman.

But that's the point. I know I don't need to be in a serious relationship and I don't desire one, but simultaneously I do have desires for something more special. Both being single and being in a relationship has its possibilities but everytime I experience one, I start desiring the other one. It's like this moving staircase you ascend while it's moving downwards. Every step you go up, but in the meantime everything's descending one step as well. It's depending on your pace wether you ascend quicker than the stairs are descending and if you're even going forward, but I think believing there'as always sunshine after rain you can keep this pace. Now I'm even starting to get phylosofical haha.

Anyways I hope you guys get my point ;)


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:04 am 
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before you absorb paramounts input, please read his posts.

However, i completely understand your situation and have been in literally the exact same place. A while back i was fucking a different girl every weekend after not having been good with women just months before. I then decided that i liked this one girl and wanted to be with her. So we had sex, things were good, and then i hooked up with another girl and then her within about a 15 minute time span.

At the time i didn't understand why i did it, but i now realize exactly what the problem was and what i believe your problem to be. Since i believe our situations to be near identical, i'll show you how i look back at my time in this moment.

I had this new ability to pick up girls and get with them. It was fucking awesome since that never used to happen to me. But now I had this insatiable desire to keep getting with girls as a strict result of a need to validate myself. Not necessarily in the eyes of others, but to at least have to prove it to myself how valuable i was based on how many girls i could get with or that i could attract a new one when the desire came.

The new ability didn't fully sink in for me until a few months ago, but since then i no longer have the need to hook up with a bunch of different girls. I have a main girl, which i believe is what you also need.


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So I'll try to keep this short. A year ago I would have never dared to even think I'd ever game women the way I do now. Heck, a year ago I'd barely talk to women at all. The life I'm living right now would have seemed like an impossible dream then. Now I am this way and I just keep feeling incomplete.
This is not the only case where this happens. It happens all the time. I fancy a girl, eventually manage to date her, maybe get into a reltaionship but then I get bored quickly. When it ends I start regretting stuff more and more and eventually want to get back with her. My last relationship even was with this amazingly gorgeous girl I know many people would have been jealous of. Not only was she gorgeous, she had a great personality as well. However, after some dream-like nights and dates I got bored and started 'cheating' on her. She never found out but we split up which, again, I start regretting a lot now and want to get back with her.

This all seems like the same pattern. I want something or someone, I manage to achieve that goal and I get bored. I just want to achieve better and better everytime, never feel saturated nor complete and can't figure out what exactly is my goal right now.

Anyone know this feeling? I guess this is something very human since people want to achieve great things, but I feel like sometimes it gets waay too extreme in some cases for me.

^ Yes, i have been there many many times... Men in general are not really built for monogamy, most dudes engage in serious monogamy, if you are under 28 and/or less than 50 lays even worst. The best is to have one main girl like the one you have, and have some type of open relaltionship. Follow Blackdragon, he teaches how to do all that stuff.

http://blackdragonblog.wordpress.com/

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:06 pm 
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50 lays as skills says isn't necessary. Scientifically it has been verified that men with 10-30 previous encounters, have had adequate enough encounters to engage in healthy relationships.

Anything more than 30 is thought to be excessive; though, the point of sex being "excessive" is still in debate by many in the scientific world. Many scientists don't believe that such a thing exists, primarily because, many scientists don't believe that humans were ever monogamous. While other scientists believe that short term monogamy (relationships spanning 3 to 6 years) have existed in humanity for hundreds of thousands of years. Monogamy has advantages and disadvantages. The benefit of monogamy is that it increases the success and chances of survival for any potential offspring. Staying together for a time is now the accepted meme. However, the disadvantage is that it also prohibitive to mating with other human beings, which all humans have a strong tendency towards.

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In other words, to keep this short and sweet, looking for a relationship for relationship's sake is probably not the smartest idea. Having relations with multiple women prior to settling down is ideal in finding the right woman. When first dating for LTR's don't assume that the first woman you get to know is the one for you. Fish around and look until you're sure.

I've dated 2 girls for a total of 3 years, one relationship lasting for 2 years, the other for 1. None of them have been fulfilling. I entered PU after I broke up with my last girlfriend almost 4 years ago. I haven't regretted my decision.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:50 am 
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Man I'm so fucked up I really shouldn't reply but here's the way I see things.

Most women have issues, all women want that mysterious Ryan Gossling type, you are fulfilling that want in them by being the "player" playing the game. Women invented the game, we learned how to play it. Now when we play the game we are not ourselves, we are the player. You are the player, and you give them what they want, but they are not what you REALLY want, because you are playing into their deluded fantasy. I.E. YOU as the OBJECT OF THEIR DESIRE (so stupid, Marilyn Monroe for men and Brad Pitt for Women) . You are just a caricature of yourself and so they become an ancillary object of both your desires (you= sex with hottie + her=whatever she is lacking to make herself whole). So the end result is you get bored because she is not what you NEED, but you are what she thinks she NEEDS.

The thing that is killing me is that to be a true player I have to loose that part of myself that truly cares.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:44 am 
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Dan achiles, you're wrong on so many levels, but I honestly can't bother. Factoid number one, most men when they initially start looking for women do so based solely on looks. Factoid number two, after having any random number of mates above 8, most men begin to look less for physical features but more for characteristics such as compliance, respect, or loyalty. Men with less experience tend to look more for sex, looks, or relationships for social validation and end up getting in terrible and tiresome relationships often. In short, the feelings that you're experiencing now are natural and will subside after you have gain some experience in the field. Let those artificial feelings of self-righteous mumbo jumbo go and move on.


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