What's up guys? Seriously....i've never really just GONE for it....but this girl has this really pussy boyfriend who crys all the time...tells her how much he can't live w/o her etc.

I've used lines such as "wow you must really be his entire world if you left and he would have nothing remaining" (in a DLV way as in...he needs to get a life)

I don't get it...or should i just cut my losses. This girl is so into her pussy boyfriend...ill be alpha and what not and get her attention..but she'll always bring up her fucking boyfriend(well he did this...he did that..etc) fucking annoying.

I really read and want to believe that ALL women want a strong and confident
male...but how is she into a wimp? I neg her A LOT ..well not blatantly ttry to make her feel shitty...but let her know that her little tricks/sympathy tricks won't work on me...etc.

Is this a IOI...when i say something to her...and she'll be like "omg brendan said blah blah"

I have no idea what to do with the girl....but maybe it's b/c she has a nice ass or a boyfriend...but i want her. Any ideas?

Maybe she's genuinely nice and feels sorry for him, and she'd feel guilty if she left him. They won't be together forever though, I can tell you that. You can make this process speedier with one of the BF destroyer patterns - I have no experience with this kinda thing though so you'll have to read up a bit on those. How hot is she anyway? Just go out and enjoy yourself with the women who are available, once she sees that you have higher value and demonstrate pre-selection her intrigue may just get the better of her.

OR. . . .maybe she is just in "love", LOL!

It seems to me that you have DHV'd a lot. So if I were you, I would pull out the jealousy card. Tell her you just started dating this girl; ask her for advice. Then everytime she starts talking about her boyfriend, you start talking about your "girlfriend". If she starts getting jealous or frustrated with the conversations, its a big IOI. Turn it around with a line like, "Hey, why don't we not talk about our 'significant others' for a while (use of quotation marks with hands for the dramatic effect). Let's talk about me instead! (laughing)"

(Side Note: Tyypically, when women talk about their boyfriends all the time, it demonstrates that they care about commitment/trust/etc; its not a good sign. So you probably want to get her to STOP talking about her boyfriend!)

truth is....she's not that hot...face is maybe a hb6...but great ass...nice perky boobs. Idk..maybe it's b/c i don't like the fact that this pussy boyfriend is holding on to her while "i believe" she wants an actual guy.

I mean...i've made out with her once before(while she was going out with her bf).....but only b/c her friend initiated "that we should kiss".

She has said "i like weaker guys"....for example she'll mention or others will mention about her "crush" at school...this guy Tim.

Is skinny/tight pants/talks too fast/admittedly somewhat feminine guy/and VERY immature..and not just my take...i'm sure he would even admit to it.

I've read a lot about how our attraction triggers are not so much a "preference" but rather instinctual. So is there such as "she just likes weak/unconfident guys" ...or is that just bullshit and she really wants a strong masculine man to lead her?

Honestly i don't think she'd be jealous if i was with another girl...i just don't get the vibe that she cares enough..if anything i get the sense that since i'm taken...she'll be more comfortable having a BF around me? Idk

I don't think its the weakness that she is attracted to, but instead, the notion of having a "best friend" male counterpart. (i.e. see women with the gay best friends)

In fact, I have known many women that get into a relationship with the same type of guys you describe. I think this is because they feel like they cannot be hurt by them. If you take notice, the women are always the ones who dominate the relationship. In some cases, it is the best possible scenario: the women gets to do whatever the fuck they want (including make out with you) but they still use their boyfriends for emotional support. From my experiences, these are the type of women that ALWAYS have to be in a relationship.

But maybe its not the guy you're mad at; perhaps it is the girl??

If these guys can break through the attraction stage, they get to hang around for a LONG time. BTW, do you know how long these people have been together? If she is promiscuous enough, you can still game her to the point where she will cheat on her BF. That's if you're into that sort of thing. . . .personally not my style.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!

Wow man unbelievable that should be huge hint you've already kissed her while she had a boyfriend what are you waiting for......

PULL THE TRIGGER!!!!!!!

First, quit making excuses.

Second, go with Thug on this one.