melissaverobeach: So what is your name?? 2:40 AM
Me: Hey Melissa! i had a great time pretending to be dancing with you while grabbing your booty! Which should do it again 5:39 PM

Me: *we 5:52 PM
melissaverobeach: I had fun too!! We should definitely "pretend" to dance again. What is your name?? 6:18 PM
Me: they call me "latin diesel" my real name is (taken out for privacy)... 6:38 PM

melissaverobeach: Oh yea I see that too... You're very sexy!! What is your ethnic background?? 7:47 PM
Me: very dissapointed you forgot the convo. you are asking me the same questions we covered, melissa, anyways i am lesbiannese, no j/k i am (taken out for privacy) 7:57 PM

melissaverobeach: Lol!! 7:59 PM
Me: and you are sexy as well i busted twice thinking of you! see how romantic 7:59 PM
melissaverobeach: Hmm..Very!! 8:00 PM
Me: thank you i am blushing! rubia(means blonde) i am gonna call you rubia 8:01 PM
melissaverobeach: Ok sounds good.. So blondes are your type?? 8:03 PM
Me: well i belong to the martin luther king school of thought, i don't discriminate, but my preference is white women, with big booties...question what has 188 teeth and holds the incredible hulk?????? 8:07 PM
melissaverobeach: Mmm..Then I must be your type.. Lol!! Godzilla?? \ufffd\ufffd 8:11 PM
Me: the answer to what has 188 teeth and holds the incredible hulk is my zipper... i am in an intellectual mood i can not believe you did not know... 8:13 PM
melissaverobeach: I'm sorry I'd like to see your Incredible Hulk though... 8:16 PM
melissaverobeach: Where'd you go??? 9:14 PM
Me: sorry rubia, was walking the dog! muazzzzzzzz with tongue! 9:38 PM
melissaverobeach: You're a hot mess!! \ufffd\ufffd 10:02 PM
melissaverobeach: Can u send me a pic of u??99 11:25 PM
Me: yea! give me your email. 12:40 AM
NOtice my strong frame and how i polarize and i don't kiss ass
melissaverobeach: Why my email.. Just send me a picture 12:09 PM
Me: the email is to send the pics, no other goal other than to send the pics you requested... got it! I don't send pics through the phone...Other than than you can look at my videos in youtube, http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction 1:49 PM
melissaverobeach: Ok...Are you in the videos?? 1:57 PM
Me: yes! In couple of them! the martial arts one, and the black and whites one.... I know where your hands will be as you watch them! 1:59 PM
at this point she knows i am a seducer and i have a gf she comes into my world and frame
melissaverobeach: Really.. And where's that?? \ufffd\ufffd 2:11 PM
Me: ???????? 2:11 PM
melissaverobeach: Where my hands will be.... 2:13 PM
melissaverobeach: So I shouldn't watch it while I'm working?? 2:15 PM
Me: well i assume as you watch they would be in or next to the promise land, if i am wrong my apologies, 2:16 PM
Me: no while you work you should be focusing in your job? what do you do? i will start first, i am a professional "boy toy" 2:17 PM
Me: and i also work part time as a kissing instructor, but i don't give free lessons. ;-( 2:18 PM
melissaverobeach: Oh I'm sure they will be, you are very sexy!! I'm a teacher... Professional boy toy.. Hmm interesting! 2:19 PM
melissaverobeach: Your kisses were pretty amazing..I might need some lessons... 2:20 PM
Me: nah i do foreclosures and legal defense, i also teach capoeira... i am glad that you have a sense of humor and you don't take my stupid jokes personally, brownie points muaazzz with tongue!
melissaverobeach: So legal defense by day dance floor seduction by night.. i like!! My girl friend does capoeira it looks fun!! Yummy.. I like the kisses with tongue 2:47 PM
melissaverobeach: Oh, I also teach gymnastics 2:52 PM
Me: really where??????? 3:41 PM
melissaverobeach: Christi's 3:50 PM
Me: cool we will train together... you will be my coach! you show me this, and i show you that, 3:59 PM
So she took the bait so now she will hint a get together
melissaverobeach: Sounds fun.. When?? 4:03 PM
Me: oh i dunno how far is vero beach i got a call my travel agent ;-( 4:27 PM
melissaverobeach: It's not that far, only 45 minutes away 4:33 PM
melissaverobeach: Where do you live?? 4:40 PM

There are two types of guys that women seduce:

1. The bad boy; and

2. The husband material.

The depth of seduction is likewise different when it comes to the bad boy versus the husband material. Women initiate subtle seduction cues to separate the bad boy from the husband material. When the husband material chases but is not good enough, he gets blown off. The bad boy on the other hand bangs the woman seducer and makes her chase. She chases in the hopes of taming the bad boy. This essentially means that the bad boy can get laid quicker than the husband material.

Researchers explain this as a strong disconnect in what turns women on physically versus what turns them on psychologically. Women will wet their panties for a bad boy although they consciously know that the bad boy is the wrong guy for them. On the other hand, women could be psychologically turned on with the husband material and gain consistent orgasms with an 'alpha male' husband material during marriage.

Ehem. Alpha male does not necessarily equate to bad boy but bad boy does equate to alpha male in the primal instinct, genetic evolutionary sense. The alpha male of today is the ideal husband material in the pragmatic, modern memetic sense.

Memes have evolved too fast that the DNA imprints in our genes that have developed over the course of thousands of years are not so easily erased in the few hundred years by which memes have evolved.

Dr. Leon Seltzer can explain most of these concepts in depth, here: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... al-killers

I'll provide related links later for the concepts that I have pointed here which are not in Seltzer's 12 posts series in Psychology Today.

Have i been seduce by women? yes, all the time, specially dudes that dance or look like actors girls approach a lot, but is a bad idea. A lot of naturals get seduce by women, but the problem is, that type of game is very very slow, you lack choice and is really boring too. Anyways, you should be able to seduce women in a way that you get seduce, get it... During the seduction you change the dynamic, so you get her to the point where she is more invested in you, so she can do part of the seduction.

So you want to get seduce:

1.- Be a leader
2.- Be charismatic
3.- Be different
4.- Be fun
5.- Learn how to dance.
6.- Be popular.

Great contribution to the discussion!

For further discussion, what is your own experience with being the bad boy or the husband material?

Do you think it´s achievable for everyone, and in that case, do you have any ideas on how?

That was exellent!

A few months before I discovered this forum, I really felt bad being treated as a sex object. Girls would lie straight to my face about not having a boyfriend. They would drop hints of wanting to come over to my place and sleep over. The lowest point came when I was banging some girl (who told me several times she didn't have a boyfriend) and her phone kept on ringing; it was her boyfriend.

I told her to answer her phone. She did; even while my penis was inside her vagina. I pretended like that didn't affect me at all. But it did. You see, I always kept on getting involved with women who have boyfriends and husbands who were lousy lays. Somehow deep inside, I was looking for love but the girls were just looking for a good fuck.

And so I went into a frenzy to find out the truth about love. I think that's the real reason why I am here. I wanted to master my pick up skills towards genuine love; not just sex.