This believe it or not is my first post, HERE WE GO

Ok so every Saturday I go out sarging to a bar/club down the street. I introduce myself to every woman I meet as GQ. This Saturday I went out peacocking with Pure style (navy blue and black fedora with a slim fit 2 piece to match)
I meet this girl Nadine in a 3 set at the bar opening with "what are you all drinking?"
Immediately I start to kino her telling her I'm on my 9th beer (lying) and ordering her to take a sip. She gladly obeys. I made an emotional connection with her over living in NYC (which I have never) she asks my name and extends her hand, to which I refuse and demand a kiss on the cheek instead.

I am 20 years old and illegally at this Bar, she tells me its her friends 30th birthday and that she's not far behind but would rather not disclose her exact age.. I tell her im in my 40's and ask "Do you like older men?" she says "I have usually dated older men in the past" my response being, "In that case im 16" with a subtle graze up her back. She laughs. The group gets their drinks and I toast the birthday girl winning her approval. Nadine says "come find me" and they leave to go sit.. She was hooked.

15-20 minutes after I find her and grasp her hand ordering a dance, she squeezes back and escorts me to the dance floor. After 15 minutes of some of the most sexualized tantric grinding, spinning, and ass grabbing I've experienced I figure Its time to isolate her after biting her neck. "Come with me outside" I say reaching for her hand, she squeezes back.
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Outside I perform a magic trick after saying I am a magician, shes impressed.
Now its time and I run the october man sequence on her, giving her the feeling of butterflies and kino her around her entire body. I kiss her and she kisses back...BUT THEN PULLS AWAY! showing me her finger "That was tricky but I'm engaged!" I say "I wont tell if you wont" she replies "...I wont"
Me- "Do you feel those butterflies right here?" I gently touch her stomach. She replies, "Yes I almost feel nauseous!"

She then continues to say "It happened once but it cant happen again! I'm engaged and am making no point to hide it!" again flashing her finger.
I continue to kino heavy to which she admits seeing where its going but cant, we go inside, I number close a beautiful Indian girl in front of her, then proceed to disarm her other friend and finally number close Nadine.

...SO. I WANTED TO FUCK CLOSE THAT NIGHT!

Any thoughts out there on FUCK CLOSING an ENGAGED woman the same night as meeting her?

-In Game we trust, GQ.

You should have taken her to your place. Tell her you had some drinks. Tell her to come over and watch your YouTube video's

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If I go to the club I can remove a girl from a group of guys within five minutes. I always make sure I make sure that she isn't with any of the guys and they are just AFCs who have been trying to win her over. As far as stealing girls go, that is as far as I go.

I can't say I agree with your attempts at sleeping with an engaged woman. Karma is a very real energy, my firend.

Engaged is a bit more difficult than married, but doable you did it mostly right, with the exception of all the gimmicky shit.... You should have bounce with her outside of the club, maybe spent some time with her and her friends while protecting her social proof(so the friends don't judge her as a slut), and turning her own like you did while dancing, i would not have isolated her, i would have bounce, and maybe do her after a club without looking like a chaser... with that being said engage usually will mess with you for validation/fun but would not go all the way.... Married on the other hand way easier... the reason is engage women are for the most part heavily invested in the dude, married women dancing sensual are not and dtf. To the answer i am engage, i usually say awesome, i respect that lets just have fun, and ignore, then escalate again... Though when i go out i usually wear my own fake wedding ban, so i just say me too and show my wedding ban. Teevester does sexual talk like "oh shit is so exiting and erotic and taboo to cheat" and that works for him, i could see that working. Anyway so the point, is to turn her on so much that you take over her logical side, and she sees the whole thing as an accident an not big deal. With that being said girls with bf, or engage, maybe a waste of time.

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Interesting points skills360, I hardly think NLP is a gimmick; thank you for finally breaking the chain of noob comments.

-In game we trust, GQ

what goes around comes around.... Don't be surprised when you fall in love with a woman and she cheats on you. If you have to lie to bang a girl you are in need of some serious lifestyle changes.

Sorry but I will never be one to support cheating. Every time I hear these stories I just think wow, these guys are going to fall hard for a girl and get their heart ripped out, and rightly so. I do not support hurtin people for your fun, there are too many sexy single women in this world for me to support such a douche bag of an action.

Plenty of other guys will be fine with it here and think I'm crazy.... Fair enough. I have nothing further to say.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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my bad i don't nlp or know anything about it, so my apologies...

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To each his own Vic, when I was an AFC the girl I fell HARD for a girl who cheated on me in a foursome. Accept and move on, now the rules are never fuck anybody without telling me about it first if, I'll allow her to engage in a polygamous relationship with me.

but she is gonna sleep with someone other than her husban/fiancee/bf isn't she ? why not me/us ?
im natural. i dont use NLP, manipulation (straw man, time disortation blahblah) I just flirt and get sexual.

it's mostly their fault (married people) they are not happy. especially in my country. most of people got married like 18-25.

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Best one liner for engaged women is. "I've never seen a ring plug a hole before" Brace yourself for a smack, or some wild sex either one will do. It takes guts and you may disqualify yourself but it sure is fun to see the look on the girls face. I've fclosed many cougars in my day with that line. Try it out and tell me what you think.

Ha, I like that.... you're cutting to the point...if an egaged chick is going to f, she's going to f, if not, she's not; I agree with what most have said that married is easier than engaged... When women are engaged that are still in that ultimate, bliss of love... an unhappy married chick you can see a mile away, hell she'll probably find you...

Funny, my last gf was a married chick, which started as a pickup. I was talking to her, it was going smoother than I thought, I wasn't using any lines or anyting, I could see her rings. She lived in my neighborhood in NYC, I then said, "So, you live in the neighborhood, great, do you have any roomates or do you live alone?" She responded, "Well, only my husband when he's around, and when he is he is on the couch, I'm separated...." I knew right there I was in...the rest is history, as they say, well actually, it's still in the mix.

Have fun.

As for the "moral" concept, that is to each his own, but you're talking about two people making a decision, no one is forcing the other...

j.

The best way to fuck close an engaged woman is get her number and wait until her hen night (I.e. her last night of "freedom")