What do most guys that are good with women have in common, they are sexual, by being sexual you will never fall into the friendzone, and you will not waste time that you could be wasting with a girl that reciprocates... Yesterday I saw a video of a friend that is good, opens good, rapport good, and all that other stuff, but he does not close cause he is so scare of escalating, getting physical, being sexual, that he just rambles on and on and on and never shuts the fuck up. So his success and his lay ration is probably very low, while his effort is really high. Some other guys go on dates for 4 hours or more, and do not fuck the girl, then the girl becomes flaky... Here is what is happening they get with the girl and in their mind "oh shit everything is going so good, and she is enjoying my company, i do not want to fuck it up by showing that i am a MAN and getting physical" that is the wrong mindset to have... If you notice the community put a high emphasis on getting laid, the reason is that if you fuck a girl, that is the best way to get the girl invested and possible the best way to land a relationship. The mindset of an afc and a chode, is she is not that type of girl(she is a classy girl, she is different), so let me get to know her first, and be sexual last. That is a Disney movie bullshit. All girls are sexual but they need to play the society Disney role of covering it up, so they will not be label a slut which is seen negative by society(a bunch of bullshit). Now when you are sexual you need to calibrate what you are doing so you do not come across like a pervert. So lets take a look at different seducers and how they are sexual:

Stebe Jabba( honesty, authentic, sexual)
Tva_oslo (philosophical, intellectual reasoning sexual)
sexaddict911 (chivalrous/gentlemen sexual)
Warped mindless(sexual inuindos/shoke and awe)
Me(dance floor sexual and trolling/humor sexual/grandmaster style)
aaron sleazy (escalation sexual)
60 yoc (silence, risk creepy sexual)
Gunwitch (pushy persistence to the limit sexual)
Rsd (a combination of all of the above kind of)

If you do not learn how to escalate and be sexual, it will take you 10 times the time of someone that is sexual to get decent results.... Focus on being sexual put yourself out of the comfort zone be sexual. If you are training or following a method, or listening to advise of the so call "Gurus" and they are not putting and emphasis on escalating and being sexual, run Forest run, run fast the other way. So when is the best time that is good to get physical and escalate, the sooner, the easier and the better...

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There's two aspects to this. Going sexual, and calibration. What if the girl is smokin' hot, but she's really religious. If you go sexual to quickly, or come on too strong, she will be put off by it. Calibration.

What if there's a smokin' hot girl at the club and you try to slow play her to pretend you aren't interested in her sexually? Then a half hour later she is dancing with some other guy who has his tongue halfway down her throat. She's a club slut, she wants a really sexual guy because she's ready to party. Again, calibration is key.

Too much or too little sexual emphasis will have the opposite effect that you intend it too. Examine the girl, read her body languauge, decide the best way to play her and go from there. It also may be that you don't want to slow play ANY girl, so you can go sexual early on and just use that as a filtering process. The uptight girls will be put off and they'll go away, leaving only the broads who are DTF.

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Yes this is a good point, but there are 2 points to make:

1:/ A degree of sexual state should always be present in any interaction with a girl
2:/ You can throw out "feelers" to escalate if you're not yet fully calibrated and know instincively how hard / fast to get sexual.

As per this post:

http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... ss-a-girl/

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Great post. The way to a woman's heat is through her vagina... Unfortunate but, as our collective experience shows, true.

Something to keep in mind is that you don't have to be sexual ALL the time. Take this with a grain of salt because I don't want anyone to read this and think, "well, I guess I don't have to be sexual then..." YOU DO!

But for me, I'm not going to be sexual all the time with most girls. I'll spike the interaction with sexual remarks to keep the tension up and set the right mood, but I want to get to know every girl I interact with as a person too. This is really important for me, I'm not just focused on screwing every chick in my field of vision.

It's a tricky balance, and one you can probably only find by knowing how to sexually escalate correctly. Don't be afraid to go too hard & crash and burn, it's the only way to learn... (As I'm typing this, flashbacks of all the times I got shot down by being uncalibrated appear in my mind )

Just like skills360 said, you can't seduce without being sexual in one way or another!

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This is a great point and I'd like to add to it. A degree of sexual state should ALWAYS be present, not just when interacting with a girl but more so become a part of who you are, this way it becomes natural and flows easy when you are progressing with a target. Once this becomes a part of you it's much easier to calibrate with any target. It's simple association, sexual association. If the target becomes interested in you and your other personality traits but isn't quite as sexual as you are or you want her to be, it really doesn't matter as she knows your sexuality and if she starts to show interest in you, she will automatically show sexual interest as well because you are associated with it.

A perfect example is a Chip n Dale dancer. Do you think any of them ever have to worry about being friend zoned. Let's say a woman is having a conversation with a dancer after a show. He's already exhibited a huge amount of sexuality from the show. Now lets say they have a conversation and hit it off. Because of his sexuality even if her interest is in dating or getting to know him better, she will still have sex on her mind and the more interested she becomes in him as a person, the more she will be willing to give up sexually.

Although women sometimes give out huge mixed signals ( due to their own personal interests) they will generally tell you everything you want to know( verbal or non verbal) if you put out feelers and escalate accordingly. A lot of beginners are afraid to show their sexual interest out of fear of rejection or whatever but what these people fail to realize is that sexuality is as a natural as breathing. A woman will sooner think there is something wrong with the man that doesn't show sexuality, then she would with a man that showed too much.

It's accepted and expected.

I'd much rather get rejected trying to get laid, then get rejected because I didn't try.



Sexuality= Confidence

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Skills, this is a good post. In my opinion This topic should be more present throughout this forum and engrained into the PUA pysche. Sex is universal, it's on everyone's mind and in every level of the worlds social hierarchy's. Our common desire for it is as humans is an absolute truth.

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^ yes! agree that is why i posted, The old school method "mystery method" imo it is design to avoid all type of rejection, which comes from a place of "insecurity"... Also, they have what is called a "7 hour rule" that if you have sex or get sexual etc... Before 7 hours it is "fools mate" or some none nonsensical stuff... So what happens is that almost 90% of methods are a variation of mm, all of these guys get their "fundamentals all wrong" even if they are not following mystery method, you would be surprise, it is not only beginners... I am tired of arguing the point of being sexual... The common answer is " what if i want to get know the girl" "what if she is not that type of girl", they just don't get that has nothing to do with anything....

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Wish I could + you skills, another great and relevant post!

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Don't just be sexual, be a keen observer too. If she's buying it, why not go all the way. Your experience might be the same or different from ours, but we have the same goal. Just learn from your experiences and from those quite good at pickups. And then, why not experiment for something new and better way to do it.

I totally agree with skills on this one. I was a little drunk last night and I was thinking, what is the most important thing I learned about pickup. My conclusion: women want sex! Our culture ingrains men with the false idea that women have this precious gift, a cherry, or a rosebud, the best gift ever, a gift that all men want, but a gift that women are not willing to part with for just anyone. The liberating truth is that this idea is bullshit. Women want sex just as bad as you do, maybe they want it even more than you do. I read a study in which a reasonable attractive guy asked a 100 random women to have sex with him. Results? Two said yes immediately, another 25 wanted to have a date first. That's random strangers this guy had never met before! Women want sex, you just have to man enough to give it to them.

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Bumping this as it's full of great posts!

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What I think most guys get stuck on when it comes to being sexual, is the fear of women calling them a pervert. They think they'll need to be all chivalrous and shit - the Disney syndrome.

What most guys don't realize, is that being sexual doesn't mean that you have to whip your dick out after 5 minutes of conversation, but the keyword is ESCALATION. Now, you have a lot of different types of escalation as Skills pointed out. I usually go for Gamblers "micro-escalation" as this is pretty much bullet-proof.

Another sticking point for a lot of guys is that they are afraid to talk about sex. Somehow it's become taboo to talk about sex, and to draw sexual conclusions and realtions to things that happens around you. Even though pretty much everyone does this, very few actually verbalizes it.

It is with this, as with everything else though. The only way to go is trial and error once you've gotten a little knowledge.

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Agree with the main points in the thread very much. Can we move the thread on a bit to talk about content? Obviously Skills you've listed your own dancefloor stuff in the opening post, but do you (and other people) want to open it up more and give some advice on what exactly 'being sexual' is in a wider general context?

It's an area I need work on; when I was at uni, a few beers and it was far easier. Now I'm trying to kick the booze and sexual escalation is a lot harder! I actually find it a lot easier in a club, because you're almost expected to be overtly sexual, but even here there is an element of calibration - on the dance floor, at the bar, in the smoking area etc all require different 'types' of 'being sexual'. So what do people class as 'being sexual'? Is it body language, is it dropping a dirty joke in to a conversation, is it innuendo, or does it not even need to be any of those things? Can it just be a well timed wink and smile? What do we think?

I know in the opening post Skills mentions the different styles, but is there some generic advice or tips that people think are worth passing on, both for me and others who have so far found the thread to give good advice but would like to get into more detail.