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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:25 am 
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You may read this, or you may skip. But here's little background.

I've been on this forum and in PUAs for quite a while...in part, thanks to PUA I had my first date, my first kiss, first BJ, lost virginity first....and not first only. I'm talking from personal experience because considering the sheer number of KJs here that is very important imo...

Here's what I wanted to talk about. I sincerely believe, after years of trying all kinds of stuff, MM, caveman, RSD, all kinds of methods/styles, techniques with varying success...I recently noticed something...I've actually noticed this for the first time when I read 60yoc...I remember 60 saying that he wonders how people say they were surprised by outcomes of their approaches, since there are only 3 ways it could go, bad, good, neutral. At the time I read it, I thought it was great...such a simple and concise classification that included every approach with every possible outcome...I was wrong...only recently I realized just how wrong I was...

Every method that I'm aware of, tries to have some kind of groups/categories, and based on these similar situations act in the same way...usually predetermined. Now that I think of it, Zan Perrion is one notable exception to this rule...

So...what's the problem with classification you say? The problem is it stops you from being truly in the moment. Being yourself. It dissolves the mystery, the beauty of interaction with a woman and boils it down to a few steps that need to be taken in a particular order, over a number of times and will hopefully lead to some results. Usually, a crappy, one night stand with a stranger desperate enough to do it with some dude who doesn't even seem comfortable in his own skin. Sure some are better a pretending than others. It's just a matter of time...cause as the song goes...what's been done in the dark, will be brought to the light (Johny Cash ig you're wondering ;) )

So what's the solution? For a while, I knew that solution to a happy ltr at least was in being truly yourself...I just could never understand what it means to be yourself. It wasn't until I heard Eckhart Tolle's "Journey into yourself" that I understood - to be yourself, is just allow yourself to be present in the situation. You are not your thoughts. If you allow yourself to be present in any situation, your mind will bring you the best results regardless of that situation...how to achieve it? Meditation is a great tool... I personally suggest listening to Eckhart Tolle's "Power of Now" first and "Journey into yourself" afterwards. Then just handle your logistics, + daily meditation practice. You'll stat seeing changes in yourself, if you're doing it right.

To sum up, don't try to boil every situation down to a number of predictable steps that you need to take...every interaction is unique...believe into yourself, believe into yourself enough to allow yourself fail, then you will succeed. Don't plan. Go there, and trust your mind, will come up with words/actions you need. Just make sure that you're present in the moment.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:50 pm 
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I agree 100%, i remember being a HUGE Mystery Method user a few years back and I just felt soo robotic. Going step by step, saying the same lines over and over and over grew quite tiresome. I began to completely dislike talking to women because i felt no magic, no real pleasure from these hollow interactions because i felt as though my true self was never showing. So I ditched these techniques, and found out that being in the moment and "being myself" was actually very effective and I felt more rewarded because i knew it was actually me talking. Its very cliche, I know, but hell its true haha.

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