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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:18 pm 
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First things first,

Hello all, it has been some time since I have visited this site, and no, I'm not really looking to make a come back. I have a wonderful girlfriend, I am a bartender, and I am almost done with my schooling. Life is pretty sweet right now.

Moving on to why I have returned after so long, I was on facebook when a friend of mine posted a quote that he wanted some opinion about and I thought that my views on the quote were worth being put into a place that people would take advantage of it.

The quote was as follows, from HIS direct post.
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"Attraction has an expiration date. If you were NEVER flirty or sexual with her before you asked her on a date, why would you expect her to suddenly be attracted to you? To her you're the asexual beta orbiter that she talks to her feelings about. She's about as attracted to you as you are to your male best friend. You blew your chance.

ALWAYS be cocky with women. ALWAYS be sexual. NEVER put up with their emotional BS."

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In regards to the ultimatum of if you blew it the first time, you blew it forever, I of course disagreed as there are always extenuating circumstances when you are able to be viewed as attractive once again. in my quote.
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false. If you remove yourself from their presence for a while, and claim you went on a "attractive trip overseas." And start displaying your new characteristics you have decided to exhibit, than you are suddenly the man who finally grew into himself, and not the beta-male orbiter that she treats like her gay friend. Life altering experiences are things that change people (the ALTERING part). And women pick up on that type of thing, especially if it's been a minute since she's seen you last.
he then went on to ask how I felt about the attitude you should always portray, in which I unloaded an incredible amount of knowledge that I haven't conveyed in one sitting for quite a while on this subject, of which I would like to finally share with this community.
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I mean, if you are attracted to somebody, you want to project some type of sexual energy (without being creepy). If you project something that is less sexual and more friendly, then that is exactly what you are going to be observed as. Instead of sexually. That line, is more for people who aren't true to themselves, and buy into the "treat every woman like a queen" completely and whole-heartedly in every facet of their interactions with them. I treat every woman I meet with the same attitude, "You are a woman, and I respect you. I'm a man, and for years my race has dominated you on this planet, you should show me why I should treat you differently than my ancestors have treated theirs." It is not a great way to view the world, however it is very primal. And primal energy is very simple, and thus easily recognized. I personally am very confident, and it can sometimes be seen as arrogant. This is not a bad thing, arrogance shows a conviction of character that many people shy away from displaying, when they shouldn't because conviction of character is one of the most sought after characteristics by women. Sexuality is the natural attitude most men our age convey. Because it is NATURAL for men our age to want to pro-create, thus I do not neuter my sexual energy, I simply temper it enough to pass comfortably in society without ridicule or being ostracized. And as for their "emotional BS." That is complete bullshit itself. Women convey emotions easier than men, and it should be celebrated and experienced, or you will not experience the woman. By dismissing a woman's emotional needs, desires, or outbursts, you are dismissing the woman herself. Which to me, is the greatest insult anyone can bestow on another human being. I hope this helps.
So that's that. I will now open up the opportunity for the community to discuss.

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great post honestly. if you know what your doing, you can make shit happen. you just need to sack up. +1


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That's actually great stuff. I agree with everything until the very end. I don't think men should have to put up with women's emotional outbursts. You can tell the woman that she has the right to feel sad, cranky, angry, bitchy, etc. But make it very clear that you have the right to not be the brunt of someone else's emotional outburst.

She has her mother, sister, best friend, gay guy at work, etc., to sit there and cry and whine to for 2 1/2 hours straight. Your job is to be there when she is finally done running her mouth and ready to put a cock in it.

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Well, thats just a difference of opinion I guess. I dont really think my only value towards a woman should be my penis. Just like I dont think her only value is her tits/ass.

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Well, thats just a difference of opinion I guess. I dont really think my only value towards a woman should be my penis. Just like I dont think her only value is her tits/ass.
I have come to a similar conclusion. After realizing this it is a lot easier to look past aesthetic features.

You can compliment a woman on her body or you can compliment her on who she is and one of her features that helps create her personality. Which is she gonna like more?


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There's something to be said for getting in touch with one's feminine side and their emotions, but you can do it in a way that allows you to maintain your own frame. I tell my girl now that I understand what she is saying and where she is coming from, but that I'm a man and I will never let a woman tell me what to do. It gets back to that quote: "Women will forgive you for being a man, but they won't forgive you for being a pussy."

It's kind of like being a doctor. Think about all the bitching and moaning doctors hear from their patients. And rightfully so, especially when they tell some guy he has stage 4 cancer or when he has to tell some woman that her father died in surgery. The doctor will display the requisite amount of empathy, but he won't even try to shed a tear with you and commiserate along side you. That's not his job. He is there to fix people, the patient is there to worry and suffer.

Men are here to be men. Women are here to bitch and moan and bleed out of their rag hole. Sounds harsh, but I didn't make the rules.

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There's something to be said for getting in touch with one's feminine side and their emotions, but you can do it in a way that allows you to maintain your own frame. I tell my girl now that I understand what she is saying and where she is coming from, but that I'm a man and I will never let a woman tell me what to do. It gets back to that quote: "Women will forgive you for being a man, but they won't forgive you for being a pussy."

It's kind of like being a doctor. Think about all the bitching and moaning doctors hear from their patients. And rightfully so, especially when they tell some guy he has stage 4 cancer or when he has to tell some woman that her father died in surgery. The doctor will display the requisite amount of empathy, but he won't even try to shed a tear with you and commiserate along side you. That's not his job. He is there to fix people, the patient is there to worry and suffer.

Men are here to be men. Women are here to bitch and moan and bleed out of their rag hole. Sounds harsh, but I didn't make the rules.

I feel bad for you.... That was so sad reading that, trying to be a man. Men don't describe men's actions they perform them. You talking about not letting a woman tell you what to do but relationships are all about compromise... You will be miserable a long with many women you interact with. Women are beautiful fun creatures, and your attitude about them being below you will tear you down and drive away the women you care about most.... I've seen men with your attitude before, women love this attitude temporarily long term they get tired of it.

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There's something to be said for getting in touch with one's feminine side and their emotions, but you can do it in a way that allows you to maintain your own frame. I tell my girl now that I understand what she is saying and where she is coming from, but that I'm a man and I will never let a woman tell me what to do. It gets back to that quote: "Women will forgive you for being a man, but they won't forgive you for being a pussy."

It's kind of like being a doctor. Think about all the bitching and moaning doctors hear from their patients. And rightfully so, especially when they tell some guy he has stage 4 cancer or when he has to tell some woman that her father died in surgery. The doctor will display the requisite amount of empathy, but he won't even try to shed a tear with you and commiserate along side you. That's not his job. He is there to fix people, the patient is there to worry and suffer.

Men are here to be men. Women are here to bitch and moan and bleed out of their rag hole. Sounds harsh, but I didn't make the rules.

I feel bad for you.... That was so sad reading that, trying to be a man. Men don't describe men's actions they perform them. You talking about not letting a woman tell you what to do but relationships are all about compromise... You will be miserable a long with many women you interact with. Women are beautiful fun creatures, and your attitude about them being below you will tear you down and drive away the women you care about most.... I've seen men with your attitude before, women love this attitude temporarily long term they get tired of it.

Peace and Love,

Vic
Everyone is different. There's some relationships I see and it is literally what I picture living hell to be like. Yet the people seem happy, or don't know any better at least. I enjoy the beauty and fun that women provide, but when their horomones kick in I let them know where I end and they begin, and I draw the line in the sand. The other day my girl started bitching about me watching football all day. I told her "Look, we hang out ALL day and night, we can't watch the same things all the time and share the same interests. At a certain point you have to do your own thing and I'll do mine. Then we'll do something together later."

When you compromise you are only compromising yourself. It's easy to give in and try to make the woman happy all the time because it's the path of least resistance. It's much harder to stand your ground as a man and risk losing her by telling her what you expect out of her and the relationship.

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There's something to be said for getting in touch with one's feminine side and their emotions, but you can do it in a way that allows you to maintain your own frame. I tell my girl now that I understand what she is saying and where she is coming from, but that I'm a man and I will never let a woman tell me what to do. It gets back to that quote: "Women will forgive you for being a man, but they won't forgive you for being a pussy."

It's kind of like being a doctor. Think about all the bitching and moaning doctors hear from their patients. And rightfully so, especially when they tell some guy he has stage 4 cancer or when he has to tell some woman that her father died in surgery. The doctor will display the requisite amount of empathy, but he won't even try to shed a tear with you and commiserate along side you. That's not his job. He is there to fix people, the patient is there to worry and suffer.

Men are here to be men. Women are here to bitch and moan and bleed out of their rag hole. Sounds harsh, but I didn't make the rules.

I feel bad for you.... That was so sad reading that, trying to be a man. Men don't describe men's actions they perform them. You talking about not letting a woman tell you what to do but relationships are all about compromise... You will be miserable a long with many women you interact with. Women are beautiful fun creatures, and your attitude about them being below you will tear you down and drive away the women you care about most.... I've seen men with your attitude before, women love this attitude temporarily long term they get tired of it.

Peace and Love,

Vic
Everyone is different. There's some relationships I see and it is literally what I picture living hell to be like. Yet the people seem happy, or don't know any better at least. I enjoy the beauty and fun that women provide, but when their horomones kick in I let them know where I end and they begin, and I draw the line in the sand. The other day my girl started bitching about me watching football all day. I told her "Look, we hang out ALL day and night, we can't watch the same things all the time and share the same interests. At a certain point you have to do your own thing and I'll do mine. Then we'll do something together later."

When you compromise you are only compromising yourself. It's easy to give in and try to make the woman happy all the time because it's the path of least resistance. It's much harder to stand your ground as a man and risk losing her by telling her what you expect out of her and the relationship.
Then don't get in a relationship, you are going to destroy yourself and some poor woman.

LOL- You have no clue dude.... It's not that you don't stand up for yourself, in fact you should stand your ground but in reality you need to compromise some to have a good relationship. This isn't about you giving her shit and her taking it. It's about giving each other shit.

People need relationships, we may not need them for decades but we do need them... If you are busy obsessed with yourself and what you want then you will a woman will never be happy with you(as well as vice verse).

Mind you I am about being open and forward, I tell people how it is, fearless, but I also realize the value of being intelligent in your relationship, compromise(even with your friends and family) is very necessary when it comes to having good relationships. This doesn't mean you do what everyone asks it means here and there yes you need to do what you would prefer not to, that is life. I would definitely tell a woman how I felt, in fact I wouldn't date a woman I couldn't. How could I?

The more of your posts I read the more I wish you would stop writing and keep reading. You have a long way to go as a person, not just a PUA in my humble opinion. I apologize for being offensive but your attitude is the exact attitude I fight and have been for years on this forum.

Peace and Love,

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Relationship terms.

Anyone familiar with Men's Sterling Weekend?

The theory is, when in a relationship a man should have terms, but no more than 3 or 4.

You can compromise on everything else but you NEVER compromise on your terms.

My terms

1 - Family - If she tries to fuck with how I want to be with my family she can LEAVE
2 - My Work - If she wines and complains that i work too much. she can LEAVE.
3 - My Car - Nobody fuckin drives my car but me and my rules in my car WILL be followed or she can LEAVE

You NEVER EVER tell a woman your terms or that you have any. You just show them (for instance I never answer her calls when im working, she doesnt even bother to call anymore when im at work). You tell them your terms and they will try and fuck with them.

To go hand in hand with this, when sharing a home with a woman, let her decorate and do all the girly shit in every room except 1. That 1 room is YOURS. YOUR SPACE. she shouldnt be in it. she should knock on the door and wait for you to answer. thats YOUR space where you get YOUR time.

but aside from those terms you had better fucking compromise, or get out of the relationship.

its like a detailed form of choosing your battle wisely.


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