Hey guys,

I thought I'd run this by you to see if anyone might be able to provide a neutral, impartial opinion on what might be going on here. This covers online game and off, so please read all the way down if you're interested in checking this out.

This all comes down to continuing to do what I've discovered, through a lot of trial and error, works for me, and now getting no results. Of course we know the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over expecting different results; that's not what this is at all.

I had a good system that worked. Online, I'd have a way of approaching girls who viewed my profile, but didn't write me. This was a rifle-shot basically. I sat down at my computer one evening and wrote about 10 girls that yielded 4 dates that week.

The thing is, now I'm getting no unsolicited profile views, and girls I write simply don't write back, or view my profile then don't write.

So you might be thinking now: "What are you doing online man? Get to approaching in real life. Get out of the house!"

Okay, well let's look at that.

This is how my weekends have been running for the last couple months when I've gone out:

I've been going out with a buddy of mine from work. We hit a lot of night venues and got reasonable results, but then it started to flake off; different girls everytime though. I was talking to this one HB 9.5, solid Italian, smoking hot; she was with her friends. Things were going well. Towards the end of the night, I tried to get her number, she paused and said, "but everybody's looking at me!" Eventually I did get it, but no call-back.

We hit another night venue another weekend; it was all couples and cliques of girls; we couldn't find a way to wedge in edgewise; people were simply all out with their friends, and that issue has never stopped me before.

We went across the street. We were talking to about an 8.9; she was drunk, but fun. We were probably talking for about 10 minutes. Then this dude just comes up, snakes his arm around her and just pulls her off to the other side of her group of friends to talk to her, where he immediately began to escalate kino on her; he didn't acknowledge either of us when he did this. He was about a foot taller than each of us and actually looked a little older (we're 29 and 30; he looked 36)

We were like, "What a fucking dickhead! He must've known her from somewhere/from earlier and knew he had an in."

I mean, what're you supposed to do in a situation like that? Go up to the guy and say, "Hey bud, we were talking to her!" (This is DC after all, where *everybody's* job relies on them not getting arrested, so getting hit probably wasn't anything to worry about.

But do you want to give a girl the ego-boost satisfaction of seeing guys fighting over her?

Another weekend:

We were at another night venue that's on my home turf; usually works pretty well.

I've found that a good dialogue starter is to start out introducing my friend to a group of girls, usually two-three, and go from there.

They just weren't interested; we couldn't get a word in edgewise; when I tried to tell one of the girls that she should meet my friend, she said, "uhhh, that's okay, I'm already seeing someone."

I later found out that as soon as I was out of earshot, a flaming gay guy said to her, "Good one."

Another girl that my friend really had his sites on all night, I figured it was worth it to let him have a shot. I approached, introduced myself, started talking, and she was walking inside (we were on a patio) and said, "uhh, not that's okay, I'm calling a cab." - and I saw her there an hour and a half later.

A former roommate of mine was there and apparently he has a bunch of gay friends, many flamboyantly gay and it was just getting fucking annoying. We were roommates for about a year and I just saw him at the bar and said hey. He looked over and said hey, but made no effort to come over, say what's up or anything.

Flamboyantly gay guy eventually asked me, "You're David's roommate?" I asked, "How do you know?" and he said, "Helloooooo? It's such a small room, of course I know."

Leading me to realize he just saw me from across the room and said, "that's an old roommate of mine." and that was it. Of course this isn't really game related but just showed that this guy and his friends were dicks and it added to the frustration.

I later reflected on that night saying, "Those fucking faggots were running the fucking joint that night!" We should've venue-hopped if I had seen how much it was sucking earlier, but then it was too late in the night.

Is something in the water or something??? Have any of you guys had tried and true methods / systems that you've worked out naturally just start to fall flat?

I just can't figure out wtf is going on here.

Any advice/feedback would be really appreciated.

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When it comes to the on-line thing. I think you simply exhausted the database. Think: how many women are there, you age, in your city, and kind of match or are attracted to each other. I think you simply fished the pool empty on that one. I am in sales and I see it happen all the time to companies who focus to locally. Haha, maybe a strange theory, but I honestly think that is what's going on with your on-line game.

When it comes to the other reports I read, I see this. You get AMOGGED, cockblocked, messed with, etc. etc. Your game might be tight, routine wise, but I think you and your friend are not yet perceived as Alpha males. That's why this is happening.

But relax. Sometimes it just won't go too well. Just keep it up and focus on the joy of gaming instead of the "I have to close this chick" attitude. Then closing will come naturally again.

greetz

Buccaneer

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