Motivation without the ego?



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:32 pm 
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If you have read/ listened to the power of now please continue reading, if not you may wish to stop as it may be difficult to comprehend what I'm saying.

At the start of the power of now Ekarte Tolle describes the experience in which lead to him being a spiritual teacher. He was in a state of extreme depression and the desire to stop living out weighed the desire to continue living, the phrase "I hate myself" was in his head. He then realized that if he hates himself then there must be two of him the "I" and "myself". This realization was so strong that his ego was literally obliterated and he became extremely present in a vortex of energy.

Last night I had the same experience, I knew exactly what was going and no words can express the feeling I felt. I woke up in the morning a saw the light filtering through the curtains, unlike Ekarte I remember seeing the light in the way he described, this memory has be at least 10 years old I'm 18 at the moment so when I was a kid and my ego wasn't dominating my life.

My questions are has anyone ever experienced this and still trying to become good with woman?(other than tyler from RSD)
Are there any non egoic reasons to develop a good skill set with women as my previous goals are irrelevant to me now?

My ego isn't completely gone and there is a stillness to my life now. I don't think it will ever be the same..

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:00 pm 
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I used to try lay girls because it made me feel good.

but lately, ego aside.... I do it to make them feel good.

Mind you I am with just one girl now and Im really happy.


so my answer is:

'Are there any non egoic reasons to develop a good skill set with women as my previous goals are irrelevant to me now?'

yes, to please them and make them happy.


Good for you about this 'realization' you had. However I do find that things like that pass with time...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:27 pm 
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To me it is dangerous to discover 'truth' in language instead of reality. That you are able to say 'I hate myself' does not make it true that there are two selves, just like saying 'There is a pink elephant in the room' does not create a pink elephant in the room. In addition, I do not see how falsely separating one self into two would 'obliterate your ego' either (the numbers don't seem to add up), but whatever, on to your question.

Your question is flawed because your premise is flawed. There are no non-egotistical reasons to do anything. All your actions are undertaken by you and you will only undertake them for an anticipated reward, whether this reward is obvious, such as money, subtle, such as social status, or a nigh inobservable neurological reward. The fact that you are asking this question proves the point: you only ask it because you want something. The question is completely motivated by egotistical reasons.

So why am I telling you all this? I'm telling you this because what you're actually doing is holding yourself back. You are here asking us to justify doing something that you like, while you liking it should be the only justification you need. In essence, you are still seeking outward validation. Not only by asking your question here, but ultimately by framing something you do for yourself as something that you do for others.

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