Hey my dear buddys i have a problem, i being in this game for like 3months and i dunno man it totally makes sense and i believe in it but lately it doesnt work tonite i went to the club and i dunno it was hurt every hotty had a guy, and than there was and hb10 so hot next to me so i start cov with her firend like a 7 and i dunno i made shit up w.e opener and than i dunno asked where she was from alberta so i said some bullshit story about me goignt here with buddies blah blah laughs than i neg her shes a hhb10! she leaves than i see her again and she hears my stories funny good dhvs negs and shes just not down, than i saw a girl i havent seen since highskool sooo hot hhb11 and i tell erh hwo it hink she is so skinny she looks differn great neg she totally felt it than talk of w.e ask her wat she beign up to she said landscappign and asked me to tocuh her arms and i was liek sweet im taking business at university so i told her i started a paitnign and landscapign company but it dditn work out or w.e than said i haad to go she told me to go look for her and ndace later but hwen i went back seh sjtu liek ignored me so i was like pz not tryign again adn than saw her she saw me and was jsut sooo like distant.... i dunno i guess im jsut impatient i dont udenrstand when playign the game good looking good and than chciks dont even give the chance to play.

Hi Random,

When I'm out sarging, which I try to look for every opportunity to do, I always remember 2 things. First, I remember that a true Venusian Artist is NOT outcome dependent. If I had to go thru 100 rejections, but in the end I'd find a gentle hearted girl who I could spend the rest of my life with, I'd go thru 1000. But try your best not to be outcome dependent, because with every rejection you'll learn something. It's hard... I know.

Secondly, there are a couple little things that will surely increase your chances. Pre-validation is a beautiful thing. I have a female wing (F wing) who helps me out a lot. I find I can get into sets with even the hottest chick because I seem non-threatening with my F wing. My F wing does a great job playing grenade duty with the obstacles too.

But overall, I think what you're doing is absolutely right. You just need to keep at it in the field, and you'll find your skills will get calibrated to the point where they're smooth and natural.

Respectfully,

M

M as it right, before succeding, you will have to fail but failing doesnt means its finished yet, take a lesson from it and try again

Everytime, after you went out sargint, successfully or not, sit down and make the point on it thing about what you've done that made you fail or succeed and what you should have done and repeat with the succesfull techniques

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yea that totally make sense just sometimes i get pissed off haha it feels like the chicks dont even give u a chance to play u know? one more question when u thorw a great neg sometimes chciks get playful and they throw the negs back and others are just like ur an asshole or cocky or osmething... so when i neg wat is the best reponse... cus if they get all playful and laughin about it... doesnt the point of the neg lose its porpouse? same if they think ur an asshole. and the last little problem i have i dunno sometimes i have it and sometimes i dont, like somenites i can open up any group but others i just dont know wat to say or how to keep it going... with out seeming akward u know...

oh yea one last thing haha sorry guys i dont want to annoing u but here it goes... wat ya guys think of makign a girl that already knows u, before u had the book like trying to pick up the girl of ur dreams the girl taht already knew u and wasnt down... does it work or sohudl i jsut focus on new ones.,, thats y i ahte failrue sometimes when i sarge cus i know its over with that chick haha

I'm a newb, and not very successful, so who knows if what I type can help anybody, but the main thing here in this thread, random, that I noticed, was you typing "i dunno" several times in your original post. This shows a definite lack of confidence in yourself, but remember, you were approaching and talking to a 10! Would you have even tried several months back? In my opinion you're on the right track... When we're new to this whole thing, it has to take some time to really find the groove, and you've got to recognize that you're taking steps forward just talking to these hot women. The more you interact with these girls, the more you will see what keeps them interested - It is an ongoing experiment, my friend. Keep it up and don't get down on yourself dude you're doing fine

And as for the old relationships with girls that got you stuck in "friendsville" in my opinion you should wait until you've really got a hold on this thing and then perhaps invite them out with some other girls to see how attractive you've become. From my observations, women tend to be automatically attracted to somebody (even if they didn't like them before) if they are surrounded by beautiful women. Save those old failures for topping off a champion season

And, as I'd said, I'm brand new to this and don't have much "field" experience so I'd need confirmation from one of the "pros" on anything I've said

I do agree that you seem a bit unconfident about yourself... but keep sarging and that should go away easily, just don't be let down by rejection. Also, you said that you made up a bullshit story. Because you are lying, it is likely that your tone of voice or body language is not congruent with your story, and girls can easily pick up on that so they'll subliminally think that you are a fake. But again, all this will get better with more practice... you will be able to talk smoothly and be in congruence with what you say.

As for the negs, laughter is not always a bad thing... sometimes it's just the girl's way of saying "omg! I can't believe you just said that." But if they get mad at you, David Deangelo suggests to say something like "I WAS KIDDING (with an obvious look)" or "Whoa, I was just kidding, come on where's your sense of humor?" and then just continue on with another opener. Also, you can tell them that it's a compliment. For example, if you negged her by saying "omg is she always like that?" and her friends get mad, say to them "no, it's a compliment, I like it (sly smile)" and continue on with another subject.

As for new vs old... I would suggest sarging new girls frist because it doesn't matter if you fail... you'll probably never see them again. If you really want to try your friend, then wait until you're good, then go for it, but if you do it now and screw it up you'll only make things worse. Anyway, keep practicing and sarging and sooner or later you will automatically know what to say and the awkward moments in sets will vanish.

I remember somewhere in the PUA creed something like...

" Rejection is a good thing, the more I get rejected the more chances I have to get laid. Every rejection is a brick for my castle"

* its somewhere in the forum guys* I'll look for it if I find it I'll post the link.

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