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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:10 am 
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There's a problem with my game. It not an issue with attracting women. Its more of an issue of my own happiness with my game. For the most part I think in life that you either have to compromise or sacrifice. Compromise as in do something you may not think is right for a greater good, and sacriifice as in something you want for a principle. How does this apply pick up? I think I set myself up to take some disrespect. If a woman is disrespecting me or giving me a shit test I will address the issue, but If I think that woman will give me pussy if I take a little disrespect I feel that i am inclinded to make the compromise in order to get the pussy(I am not happy with this). And I think this mentality sets me up to get disrespected to some extent by some women because I will be nice to the girl until it seems like I cant get the pussy or she's done somethign so disrespectful that I don't care if I get the pussy and just become totally dominant with her and don't care if she likes me or not, ala http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLnTWxpTQt4

I was wondering what you guys thought about always adopting this I don't care attitude. I feel like I would sacrifice some pussy for it, but that I would be happier with myself.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:19 am 
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For instance. I hooked up with this girl this weekend, but she is working on my last nerve.


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Well if you think you will be happier with yourself by not putting up with it, I'd say take that route. Pussy is not the be all and end all - and if you stick to your standards surely you will only get pussy of quality?


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this sort of reminds me of paying, and doing favours, and putting more time and effort into specific girls,

really, taking some shit, putting up with dis-respect and doing your best to re-frame it, or handle it without stooping too low, can increase the chances that specific girl X will have sex with you, in the same way that paying and putting more effort and attention into it can increase the chances, and I mean, there is a big difference between playful shit talking and a girl just dis-respecting you for the sake of establishing some sort of power roll or something, but realistically, it's not highly important, she's either attracted or she isn't attracted, but what is more important than that, is how much do you value her yourself?, honestly girls who say weird shit to me and ''shit test'' with rude statements and disrespect, simply get a red card, it's such a turn off, why even put up with it for pussy, it's not even about getting around it an remaining unreactive etc. as in ''how will I pull this off'', it's more like ''wow is she seriously like this?'', when some offensive shit is said, draw the damn line in the sand, if she crosses the line after being given X amount of chances that you give her, then fuck her, on to a different girl without these kind of issues, no one likes to be berated or insulted and have their ego and self esteem challenged on a regular basis, a negative person brings negativity to an interaction, if you want that shit in your life, then by all means allow it, but just realize people who have a habit of acting a certain way, tend to continue to act in that way, change is hard

at a certain point you have to ask yourself what's most important to you, what's easier?, dealing with this bullshit to make it more likely to get laid, or finding a different girl that doesn't offer this kind of bullshit and getting laid anyways

sure, you may be able to get up in there, but why waste the time on something that in the end, you won't feel satisfied with, it's like fucking a girl you find physically repulsive just so you can say to yourself, ''well, I did it, I can certainly bang girls I don't find attractive, good for me'', or putting in weeks and weeks and weeks of effort on one girl to get a lay, when you could have just spent way less time on her, and more time meeting way more women, and used your time way more efficently and it would have required less effort on your side, but that is all point of view, really depends on you and what your goals are, and how you subjectively view your own time management and what emotionally is more of an investment for you, meeting a new girl or talking to one you already know, you can be the guy who doesn't want to be rejected, or the guy that only wants to fuck girls he actually likes, all personal preference


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:15 pm 
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There's a problem with my game. It not an issue with attracting women. Its more of an issue of my own happiness with my game. For the most part I think in life that you either have to compromise or sacrifice. Compromise as in do something you may not think is right for a greater good, and sacriifice as in something you want for a principle. How does this apply pick up? I think I set myself up to take some disrespect. If a woman is disrespecting me or giving me a shit test I will address the issue, but If I think that woman will give me pussy if I take a little disrespect I feel that i am inclinded to make the compromise in order to get the pussy(I am not happy with this). And I think this mentality sets me up to get disrespected to some extent by some women because I will be nice to the girl until it seems like I cant get the pussy or she's done somethign so disrespectful that I don't care if I get the pussy and just become totally dominant with her and don't care if she likes me or not, ala http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLnTWxpTQt4

I was wondering what you guys thought about always adopting this I don't care attitude. I feel like I would sacrifice some pussy for it, but that I would be happier with myself.

Listen, you are totally right, you are doing something, wrong, why would a girl be disrespecting you? that does not sound right, are you sure is not shit test looking to see if you are reactive... I disagree with pumpington if you are nice or put up with disrespect it will DECREASE your chances of sleeping with them. Cause it only shows you are a softy, women are looking for security, they are trying to see if you are a push over or stand your ground... Also if you are putting up with women like that, means you do not have many, if you have many women, you do not care, you can get rid of the pain in the ass, and stay with the other ones(abundance)... That is why you have to screen hard you do the picking, not the other way around, to do that you have to have many women available to choose from, it helps.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:20 am 
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I'm never weak. About a year and a half ago after missing out on some women (calling me arrogant or an ahole). I changed my game up to be more tolerant.

I suppose this problem would be eliminated by demonstrating more value and hiding the value that I place on the girl (to have them afraid of losing me). As I think to play the game best the girls should be the one's willing to take shit because they want you so badly because they value you so highly.

Honestly, I don't talk to that many girls at once, at most 2-3. I only have so much time and attention. Also, if I go out and i approach 2 or 3 girls and then 1 bites I'm going to stick with her for the night. If the first girl bites and she is attractive well Im going to stick with her. So often times if I kick the girl to the curve then I face the option of no one for that evening. I suppose that puts a lot of unnecessary value on the female.


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I suppose this problem would be eliminated by demonstrating more value and hiding the value that I place on the girl (to have them afraid of losing me).
not nessicarily, some women are just naturally negative people and they will test your boundries constantly no matter how much value you demonstrate, even with a sharp tounge that doesn't take it too far, with complete non reactivness and a great ability to re-frame and be on point all the time, they can still step up, it's up to you to descide if you want to put up with it and keep dealing with them and having that annoying behavior around you, or to just cut them off, really only you can descide for yourself when to say, ''is this kind of dis-respect even worth it?, like is she seriously like this all the time?''

it's really no different then a guy who talks shit
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As I think to play the game best the girls should be the one's willing to take shit because they want you so badly because they value you so highly.
that is a nice notion of having a girl take shit from you because they value you so highly, but it is unrealistic if you want to indiscriminantly select women purley on a sexual basis, alot of girls who truly value you very highly will become insecure and reactive, this often times means quite the opposite of what you are suggesting, albeit obviously some girls are naturally passive and when they react to you, they will do so by becomming timid, defensive and shy

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Honestly, I don't talk to that many girls at once, at most 2-3. I only have so much time and attention. Also, if I go out and i approach 2 or 3 girls and then 1 bites I'm going to stick with her for the night. If the first girl bites and she is attractive well Im going to stick with her. So often times if I kick the girl to the curve then I face the option of no one for that evening. I suppose that puts a lot of unnecessary value on the female.
leaving yourself with so few options really limits your ability to be selective about this sort of thing, if you want passive girls that treat you with respect, they would be easier to find if you screened alot more girls for the qualities you are looking for, as apposed to trying to modify every girl's behavior you meet, assuming it has something to do with how much she likes you


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I'm never weak. About a year and a half ago after missing out on some women (calling me arrogant or an ahole). I changed my game up to be more tolerant.

I suppose this problem would be eliminated by demonstrating more value and hiding the value that I place on the girl (to have them afraid of losing me). As I think to play the game best the girls should be the one's willing to take shit because they want you so badly because they value you so highly.

Honestly, I don't talk to that many girls at once, at most 2-3. I only have so much time and attention. Also, if I go out and i approach 2 or 3 girls and then 1 bites I'm going to stick with her for the night. If the first girl bites and she is attractive well Im going to stick with her. So often times if I kick the girl to the curve then I face the option of no one for that evening. I suppose that puts a lot of unnecessary value on the female.

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My mindset when I approach a girl is to be pleasant. This sets me up to get disrespected because the girl can return my kindness with indifference, coldness, or even rudeness. The possibility of giving someone a compliment then getting verbally slapped in the face is what bothers me. That openness. That vulnerability is what bothers me. Because I have approached women before with the mindset of being friendly and pleasant and they come with the mindset of being bitchy and that's not a good position to be in.


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My mindset when I approach a girl is to be pleasant. This sets me up to get disrespected because the girl can return my kindness with indifference, coldness, or even rudeness. The possibility of giving someone a compliment then getting verbally slapped in the face is what bothers me. That openness. That vulnerability is what bothers me. Because I have approached women before with the mindset of being friendly and pleasant and they come with the mindset of being bitchy and that's not a good position to be in.

^ welcome to pick up, that is gonna happen, look at it as i am not wasting my time with this girl, thanks for letting me know early on, and go to another girl...
Now make sure you are approaching with confidence, no hesitation, no neediness... The verbally slapped in the face does not sound right to me though, but this weekend a girl was blowing kisses from her car, i approached, she yelled "awww i am not gonna kiss you" and got scared, i just kept walking like nothing happened and ignore, it is not big deal, with that being said, getting verbally slapped happens maybe once ever couple of years, if it happens to you constantly there may be something wrong... Check your looks, dress style, attitude, confidence etc..

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The problem is simple. With this mindset I am seeking the woman's approval. She's my judge. She's on a pedestal. I am trying to appease her.

Essentially, I'm approaching and caring a lot about what they think of me while they don't give a damn because they don't know me from a can of paint. This mindset permeates through the entire relationship and makes me susceptible to compromising because I'm thinking "Compromise and she'll like me. Make sure she likes me." Now my objective is to be so pleasant and to get her to like me so much that she begins to compromise for me. This has worked before. More simply put the girl starts off as the prize and then I am slowly working my way up to being the prize. It's kind of like a man working his way up in a business, he puts up with stuff until he is the boss and then he calls the shots. I am dissatisfied. How can I be the prize at all times??? How can I always be in power?


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The problem is simple. With this mindset I am seeking the woman's approval. She's my judge. She's on a pedestal. I am trying to appease her.

Essentially, I'm approaching and caring a lot about what they think of me while they don't give a damn because they don't know me from a can of paint. This mindset permeates through the entire relationship and makes me susceptible to compromising because I'm thinking "Compromise and she'll like me. Make sure she likes me." Now my objective is to be so pleasant and to get her to like me so much that she begins to compromise for me. This has worked before. More simply put the girl starts off as the prize and then I am slowly working my way up to being the prize. It's kind of like a man working his way up in a business, he puts up with stuff until he is the boss and then he calls the shots. I am dissatisfied. How can I be the prize at all times??? How can I always be in power?


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I go in to every thing I do with No Expectations. What I do is for my own enjoyment. Just cuz we fucked last night does not mean that she is DTF again. I usually stack the deck thow by being so good in bed that shes cant resist. When I say or do something its my for my own benefit. I do not try to use girls or be used. Its a downward spiral if your motives are hidden or misleading. Also you might forget what is important if you vest to much in to some one or some thing. You got to know when to hold them and when to fold them. Also you need to believe this mantra. Your the prize. She needs to qualify to be with you.

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