i have a friend that is a girl, and she is single. i would like to help her find someone. does the game work for women too? im just wondering if i can help her, and how. we would make good pivots for each other, but i'd hate to just use her for a pivot and not help her out in return.

her main problem is that she is shy

Every technique and method works for both.

I've ran female workshops and it is all the same.

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Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

These would be great questions for Paramour and Zip. Yes the game can work for women too in my opinion. They could tell you better than I can. I understand she is shy. The similar things that helped improve our approach anxieties will help her, but she has to want to do it. GOOD LUCK!!!

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It's all based on psychology and the psychology is working on both men and women, it doesn't just work on girls. NLP for instance has been adopted heavily by PUAs, but it wasn't intended to be gender biased and can be used effectively by women as well.

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yeah but most guys that dont approach women are AFC; its not like they think they are too good for everyone else (like most HB's)...i think things like negging, DHV'ing, etc would scare the hell out of an AFC.

maybe i should go the route of using a standard opener and then just having a group conversation and then eventually see my way out of it. but then wont that guy think she is desperate or something? maybe im just overanalyzing it...

I never ran across a female that needed to much help finding a man. What is her problem finding one herself?

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1st point, making her a pivot means you should return the favor, by helping her to get into sets with a guy she likes.

2nd point, yes the game does work for girls too. And, as far as the negging and DHVing and all the stuff we use, yes, they work effectively on guys too. For instance, a guy and a girl that both have strong frames can neg the shit out of each other and the game becomes FUN then. I know this from personal experience

Man, girls game guys all the time naturally anyway, and for those girls that are GOOD at it, when they find a guy that is GOOD at it, it becomes VERY fun for both parties. Neither party is boring at that point. The AFC and the female equivalent are just plain boring.

she is shy

I agree. But remember this is intended for guys and to trigger the attraction switches in women. There is some good stuff out there for girls, i had a look at some sites out of curiousity. Try taking a look at the playette pages, that seemed like good info from what i can remember.

So what, some guys (like me) are attracted to shy girls. Tell her to just smile and not dress in rags, and she'll find a boyfriend no problem.

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Not the case. I'm fabulous, but I'll run through spells where I just don't have any luck with men. It's a boredom/quality issue. Yes, she could probably "find a boyfriend no problem," but she's probably looking for a high quality specimen.

Game does work both ways. Of course, the women I know in the field have to slightly augment techniques, and we've made up a few new ones that are specific to women... but it works and has been successfully field tested.

Yes, when a guy and a girl who know the game come together... it's definitely not boring You guys should try it.

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