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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:09 pm 
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Why I think Waitresses, Servers, and Bartenders make the best practice!

So why do they make the best practice?

Because they are so “well educated” for one thing. They are typically doing this as a stepping stone while she finishes her master’s degree in art history, and they need the MONEY! They know that men grow weary of the same old banter they get from every other waitress/bartender. They know they must earn your attention. Attention directly equals income! Without many art history gigs out there they perhaps find themselves getting very good at it!

They have to be nice to you. This is how they earn a living. There is no AA, they have to approach YOU!

No matter what she looks like, she has been hit on by multitudes of Men. If she is hot the numbers just go up. She will not be offended if you do the same. It is likely she will just encourage more, or just politely laugh and smile.

You can practice some of your “magic” canned stuff you have read about! Or something you think is brilliant! So what if you screw it up, she will still bring you your hamburger.

I highly recommend that if you’re looking to get better interacting with women, this is a great place to start.

This is also a good area to learn to pay attention to body language. OFTEN their words will be the opposite of what their body language says. PAY attention.

However, these can also be the toughest to close, you must be very creative and confidant to pull it off.

When you do this TIP WELL!! They deserve it.

I am eager to hear any stories about the ones that were “closed” and the steps it took to get there.

I think there is a lot to learn from this venue.

Any thoughts comments or contribution would be appreciated.

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Totally agree brother! I always flirt with the hired help for this reason. Last week my first day out after a break up I found myself at BWW. Hot,24, fit, just got a masters in psych. She came to the table with a total attitude... did some work and blew my friend out of the water. He travels a lot and when we left he said hes never seen a waitress hang around a table like that.


Long story short... she has a bf, i dont care, but I stumbled on the n-close... got a come back and see me here (big smile). DOnt care.... it was just practice. "We arent talking about the game, were talking about practice"

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Why I think Waitresses, Servers, and Bartenders make the best practice!

So why do they make the best practice?

Because they are so “well educated” for one thing. They are typically doing this as a stepping stone while she finishes her master’s degree in art history, and they need the MONEY! They know that men grow weary of the same old banter they get from every other waitress/bartender. They know they must earn your attention. Attention directly equals income! Without many art history gigs out there they perhaps find themselves getting very good at it!

They have to be nice to you. This is how they earn a living. There is no AA, they have to approach YOU!

No matter what she looks like, she has been hit on by multitudes of Men. If she is hot the numbers just go up. She will not be offended if you do the same. It is likely she will just encourage more, or just politely laugh and smile.

You can practice some of your “magic” canned stuff you have read about! Or something you think is brilliant! So what if you screw it up, she will still bring you your hamburger.

I highly recommend that if you’re looking to get better interacting with women, this is a great place to start.

This is also a good area to learn to pay attention to body language. OFTEN their words will be the opposite of what their body language says. PAY attention.

However, these can also be the toughest to close, you must be very creative and confidant to pull it off.

When you do this TIP WELL!! They deserve it.

I am eager to hear any stories about the ones that were “closed” and the steps it took to get there.

I think there is a lot to learn from this venue.

Any thoughts comments or contribution would be appreciated.

Thanks!

I'd start bantering with associates at stores and shops before anything to do with waitresses. They are still required to talk to you and you get an easy exit. I have to say I love and agree with the phrase don't fuck with people who deliver your food. Bartenders are almost always fun with good personalities and stories, they are usually solid for chit chat.

How would you feel if this was the 10th asshole to hit on you inside of 45 minutes? You'd be agitated if he lacked skill or didn't get you to smile.

If you got average game I'd say it is a great place to practice but it's always important to remember if you say the wrong thing you could end up with a spit filled entree that you don't see.

I would say the best thing to do is to get a job in customer service or sales. Customer service will teach you to engage and get comfortable with women. Sales teaches you to deal with rejection and limit it. Sales is one of the best tools for pick up, because in pick up you really are just selling yourself.

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agree with the phrase don't fuck with people who deliver your food.
How would you feel if this was the 10th asshole to hit on you inside of 45 minutes?

If you got average game I'd say it is a great place to practice but it's always important to remember if you say the wrong thing you could end up with a spit filled entree that you don't see.
You know, that had never occurred to me...good thoughts man. I never start hard. Just playful... and if shes being bitchy I'll actually be stand offish. Seems like the closer one gets to the bill the nicer they become. So Ill come a little harder near the end. God only knows what we eat cause they are bored and have a shitty job. I dont think the spit order goes down that much.


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How would you feel if this was the 10th asshole to hit on you inside of 45 minutes? You'd be agitated if he lacked skill or didn't get you to smile.

If you got average game I'd say it is a great place to practice but it's always important to remember if you say the wrong thing you could end up with a spit filled entree that you don't see.
Best way to avoid this: Don't be an ASSHOLE!

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Any situation where you are forced to interact with girls is a great opportunity to run some game. Cashiers at the grocery, waitereses, bank tellers, etc...They must treat you fairly well because they are in the customer sevice business. I always leave them smiling and thinking "What a cool dude!"


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Cashiers at the grocery, bank tellers, etc...They must treat you fairly well because they are in the customer sevice business. I always leave them smiling and thinking "What a cool dude!"


Peace...

I was going to include these as well, I closed two Tellers same counter (Teller one, started showing teller two the text exchange..her fault lol), one convenience store clerk since January...LOL!

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I'm big on waitresses as well.

Poeticallyskuac, I have disagree with you my friend. I don't care if she's been hit on by 45 dudes that day. I'm confident in my abilities to always have an intersection to direct the conversation. If I see one avenue closing - I'll take another.

As Heywood said so eloquently :lol: ... Rule of thumb with the waitresses: Don't be an asshole.



But I like the duration daygame with waitresses.

My brother, a friend (AFC), and I meet for lunch at least once a week, usually more. You start building a routine of places. This is when Zan's approach worked incredibly well.

We'd started going to one place in particular quite often. After a bit, you start seeing the same waitresses, you open a couple in different ways, testing the waters...what have you... then started dialogue with one of the waitresses. Told her she's my 'lunchtime girlfriend'. Built that connection, started kino (I'd get up, look at my brother and hug her from the side...) and then started to engage her when she came by the table. I asked about her - and listened actively. But - I didn't ask her out then. Not the right vibe to caveman.

When something could be playfully 'disputed', I 'broke up' with her - like a drama queen. Told her she was no longer my lunch girlfriend, how distraught I was, yada yada yada... all in good fun... THEN I bounced to another nearby waitress and told her I just dumped the other one for her. From now on, she'll be your lunchtime girlfriend...and nobody exists but her ...in my lunch time world...

They really had a ball with it!

In about 4 visits running this, which was from routine lunch with my brother, NOT part of any actual game I was running, I was able to date one if the waitresses and get a number for another.

No effort other than lunch banter, kidding and a transition from fake to reality via quick isolation.


I used to game everyone. Waitresses were easy simply because they were always coming to me.

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How would you feel if this was the 10th asshole to hit on you inside of 45 minutes? You'd be agitated if he lacked skill or didn't get you to smile.

If you got average game I'd say it is a great place to practice but it's always important to remember if you say the wrong thing you could end up with a spit filled entree that you don't see.
Best way to avoid this: Don't be an ASSHOLE!

How we are perceived doesn't always have to do with our behavior. Sometimes if she is having a bad day and preoccupied she is reacting to her day and not you. She maybe upset because you reminded her of a previous poor moment in the day (like the 9 other guys hitting on her). It's important to remember a woman may react negatively to us based not us but on her mood.

I have had a lot of female friend servers, they don't like when guys hit on them, but the money is hard to argue with. While I think they are great practice for flirting you should never practice your actual game on servers when you are so new you have none.

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I'm big on waitresses as well.

Poeticallyskuac, I have disagree with you my friend. I don't care if she's been hit on by 45 dudes that day. I'm confident in my abilities to always have an intersection to direct the conversation. If I see one avenue closing - I'll take another.

As Heywood said so eloquently :lol: ... Rule of thumb with the waitresses: Don't be an asshole.



But I like the duration daygame with waitresses.

My brother, a friend (AFC), and I meet for lunch at least once a week, usually more. You start building a routine of places. This is when Zan's approach worked incredibly well.

We'd started going to one place in particular quite often. After a bit, you start seeing the same waitresses, you open a couple in different ways, testing the waters...what have you... then started dialogue with one of the waitresses. Told her she's my 'lunchtime girlfriend'. Built that connection, started kino (I'd get up, look at my brother and hug her from the side...) and then started to engage her when she came by the table. I asked about her - and listened actively. But - I didn't ask her out then. Not the right vibe to caveman.

When something could be playfully 'disputed', I 'broke up' with her - like a drama queen. Told her she was no longer my lunch girlfriend, how distraught I was, yada yada yada... all in good fun... THEN I bounced to another nearby waitress and told her I just dumped the other one for her. From now on, she'll be your lunchtime girlfriend...and nobody exists but her ...in my lunch time world...

They really had a ball with it!

In about 4 visits running this, which was from routine lunch with my brother, NOT part of any actual game I was running, I was able to date one if the waitresses and get a number for another.

No effort other than lunch banter, kidding and a transition from fake to reality via quick isolation.


I used to game everyone. Waitresses were easy simply because they were always coming to me.

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RR

I was merely pointing out that if you have awkward game(or none) and haven't developed it yet you might want to start out practicing on others before messing with folks who deliver food. I joke and flirt with waitresses a lot but if you aren't that skilled with it yet I'd be very careful is all.

You have game dude so it's not biggie, but if you are dealing with some newbs with no game at all or don't know how to act a waitress may be a poor start. Which is why I recommended store associates.


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...if you are dealing with some newbs with no game at all or don't know how to act a waitress may be a poor start.


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i think the opposite, since they get pay to be nice or they do not get tips.

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i think the opposite, since they get pay to be nice or they do not get tips.
Just going off my own experiences and the servers I've been friends with. They are paid to be nice and this very true but what you don't know can still suck. She can play nice and still spit in your food. She can act cool but still do douche things.

A lot of female servers hate how guys come after them. If you got game it's fine but as a newb I'd shy away from it.

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i think the opposite, since they get pay to be nice or they do not get tips.
Just going off my own experiences and the servers I've been friends with. They are paid to be nice and this very true but what you don't know can still suck. She can play nice and still spit in your food. She can act cool but still do douche things.

A lot of female servers hate how guys come after them. If you got game it's fine but as a newb I'd shy away from it.

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^ that is my point if you are newbie to stay away from it, since they get pay to be nice and talk to you and there income is correlated to that... Is like having a test with an open book, you will not really learn anything...I was married to a higher gun(waiter/bartender/stripper)...

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i think the opposite, since they get pay to be nice or they do not get tips.
Just going off my own experiences and the servers I've been friends with. They are paid to be nice and this very true but what you don't know can still suck. She can play nice and still spit in your food. She can act cool but still do douche things.

A lot of female servers hate how guys come after them. If you got game it's fine but as a newb I'd shy away from it.

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^ that is my point if you are newbie to stay away from it, since they get pay to be nice and talk to you and there income is correlated to that... Is like having a test with an open book, you will not really learn anything...I was married to a higher gun(waiter/bartender/stripper)...
Awww Misinterpretation on my end. My bad..

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