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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:00 am 
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I was inspired by PUMPINGTON'S STOP BEING A PUSSY MOTIVATIONAL THREAD to go out and pick up women during the day. However, I am at college and it is a different game. I know all about social circles and all that shit about college. I have good reputation, good night game but have AA sometimes during the day. I have walked by numerous hot girls and could not do anything except hold eye contact and smile. A good start.

I need to stop being a pussy and afraid of wasting time or ruining my reputation by approaching girls. If anything, it will only help it. I will try to pick up a girl a day for the next 7 days like Pumpington's challenge. direct game with intent to number close.

Since I am not in a city, but on a college campus, I will post my experiences, my advice and failures so that other college PUAs can learn as I learn. Since I am good at night game, and this weekend is halloween weekend, i plan on getting 3 numbers and 1 Kclose or Fclose EVERYNIGHT this weekend. If i fail at any one of these tasks i set out, the requirement is doubled the next day, and if i fail a second time, it doubles again and again... until i succeed.

Time to get this party started
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Hi everyone,

I have transformed this thread from my original college challenge into a college pua theory thread. I have used this to bring together all my thoughts from my research into posts on this thread. Having it in one place is very effective and easy for myself and others. Good luck to all the college PUAs.

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Yesterday I approached 3 sets. I failed on the first two but succeeded on the third!

First: HB7 in business attire (my school has many of these)

Eye contact, walking opposite direction from each other, tried to open with
"could i tell you something"
she seemed to be busy, her fast pace and fact that she was not wearing comfortable clothes. maybe she was late to a meeting/class

SEcond: approached a one set on benches by the bus stop, approached indirect unfortunately.

me: "do you know when the next bus is?"
HB8 "uhh im not sure im waiting for my friend"
me "oh ok, these buses are always late anyways. What year are you?"
HB "im a freshmen"
me "uh oh...another freshman"
HB "hay why do you say that"
me "so many freshmen are coming to my parties and im getting into trouble"
HB "really? are you in a frat?"
me "yes i am, you should come to our halloween party saturday"
then her friend pulled up in his car and it turned out to be someone i know in my year. I guess they were fucking... very unlucky
Hb "i would but im alreaddy going to his -> party"
me "oh no problem, see ya around"

I said hi to my friend and left. bro code, good for him

Third: HB9, this girl was sitting my herself on the patio tables. she was just sitting there checkin her phone. so i approached straight up

me "hey i just saw you sitting here by yourself, and i have to say that you are too pretty to be sitting alone"
HB *giggles* "thank you"
me - i take a seat, "hi im jeff"
Hb "my name is kelly"
me "are you apart of the hotel school? or are you just here for the food :wink: "
HB "hahaha i am apart of the arts and science college, i was visiting my friends here before"
me "thats cool, im not in it either actually, im thinking about transfering in though."

we continue talking about classes and parties. building comfort. told her my dhv story of how when I was blackout and saved my friend's life (was told the story from others). she was amazed and impressed. she told me some of her own funny stories

I remembered the time she said she had class, so i told her that i had to get going to my own class
hb "oh :D i almost forgot about my own class!"
me "why dont you give me your number and let you know when our party is this weekend"
HB "SURE!"

Nclosed and got many IOIs, couldnt insta-date bc she already ate and she had class. but either way - SUCCESS

Things learned on campus
- if they seem like they are in a hurry, even if they give eye contact, they probably have class or no time to meet you
- approach girls who seem to be in a good mood
- classes and parties are a good tool to build comfort but dont dwell on this topic too long
- have only one good party DHV story
- dont get too wrapped up in party stories, you can get sidetracked (happend to me last week)
- almost always give seductive eye contact
- good structure is Opener, Hook, Classes, Parties, Girls/exs, turn sexual, close

today is thursday so ill let you know what happens tonight. 3#s and a K or Fclose. HERE WE GO

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yesterday it snowed so not many people went out, I did pick up two numbers despite the low number of females. I will develop a list of things i believe work and dont at college

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ok halloweekend was crazy. I got 12 numbers in the last two nights and i got 3 blowjobs but no fclose. Right now my liver is recuperating and I want to make a list of things I have learned. after reading this thread 1-vt27052.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 about college game, I would like to make my own suggestion.

1) College as a "closed system" - very true in every sense. the college campus will revolve around college life and whatever social organizations that are significant. People you may meet in your classes you may see at parties. So at college, present yourself as a person who people would want to be friends with, the partier, player or athlete are just a few examples.

2) Since college is a closed system, take advantage of it. learn how to play the game and where the best parties are, where the hot girls go at night... If your college has tons of frats, go bro-flirt frat brothers so you can get future invites to both open and closed parties. (and free alcohol :lol: ) If your college is mostly bars, become friends with the bouncers, party planners, bartenders etc. Own your campus and know all the significant people

3) always put your best foot forward at all times - always look fresh/looking good, always be prepared to flirt and talk to anyone. first impressions are the most important so never look like a slob or act depressed. drink coffee, be healthy and be in shape. go to the gym and get a good haircut and shave often.

4) First impressions are the best - you meet many girls in your classes, at the gym, walking on campus... go up to them and say hi, get their number, invite them to a party. day game is key- work on it! be THAT guy. girls fuck THAT guy. dont be shy and nerdy when you first meet girls because when you see them later on the weekends, they will ignore your advances. get your foot in the door and go from there

5) "inner circle" - your inner circle of friends need to have the same goals as you. Want to go get chicks? awesome. Want to party? awesome. Want to play starcraft on a friday night? not awesome. find people who are similar to you and want the same things as you do. it is advised not to hook up with girls in your inner circle but definitely have your inner girl friends set you up with their other friends

6) "outer circle" - your group of acquaintances who you see at class or the gym or at parties. these are the people when your close friends fail, you seek these people out to help. these are the people who often will go sarging with you at a party. also these are those girls that your close friend will set you up with. do not fail with these girls as it will doom future interactions with that circle. these are the people who you can ask about parties and such and they wont refuse you, they are probs trying to find something to do as well.

7) at parties, find and introduce yourself to random hot girls. do not chase your one-itis. she will get jealous and maybe fuck you or she wont. so why dont you go find new girls and let her do her own thing. new girls will not be in any close circle of friends so it is safer from a social standpoint. also they do not know your past reputation yet so you have a clean slate to make your magic. they will be impressed that you have good game, confidence and you chose to approach them. make it work and if it doesnt, there are more fish in the pond, just dont fuck up too bad

8 ) DO NOT GET BLACK OUT DRUNK - i got blackout drunk on friday and saturday this weekend. Even though i did get a few BJs, i couldve fucked both nights but i was too fuckin drunk to realize it. as you drink, you feel invincible but your game becomes sloppy. stay coherent and never drink yourself under the table.

9) agree completely -
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"Expect LMR -Girls are well aware of how quickly reputation can spread in a closed system and they don’t want to gain the reputation as a slut. So expect lots of LMR for the F-closes. (generally girls do not fear this reputation from repeated Kiss closes so resistance won’t be to bad there).
So you need to isolate and often try to fclose at the location you are at. most college girls will not come home with you. After getting a girls number, try to go all the way, but dont be overly aggressive or creepy. if you dont succeed, text her a couple days later and invite her to lunch or a party the upcoming week. The second day is when success occurs frequently.

10) As an upperclassman, having parties at your house is clutch because you can simply walk the girl from the dancefloor (or wherever) straight to your room. SO try to have parties at your place as often as possible. it makes fclosing easier.

11)BE THAT GUY - life of the party is not necessary, but be a person who anyone and everyone can get along with and has fun with. Either at a party, at a meal or in class, always try to be fun. Learn how to be funny, situational humor is key.

12) Chief said this
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Be to an alpha male in a college environment, you have to learn to be socially dominant with EVERYONE around you. You're not just gaming girls, you're gaming the entire campus. You genuinely have to become a real "people person." That also takes a lot of work in and of itself.
You dont need to be THE FUCKING ALPHA, you need to be more alpha than the average man. If you are alpha in general, among other alphas, you will all get chicks. You need to be confident and be ready for anything to happen. Life is a crapshoot and often the craziest things happen to those least expecting it.

13) Its halloween and I will leave on number 13 :twisted: -
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Peacocking

What most people assume by peacocking will have significantly less effect on a night out in college/uni . Treating a Club without noticing atleast one group dressed to some sort of theme is rare, therefore you with the funny hat will not stand out as much. Therefore Peacocking here becomes not about dressing with that little extra something but being the one that out of all the costumes appears the best or most creative.
At a party, be that guy who goes all out and is THAT guy. either wearing a legit costume for a hero and villains party or doing something to stand out. wearing a flashy ring, going shirtless or looking/dressing better than everybody else is effective means for peacocking. a new trend is retro neon look, so wear something in that nature that really stands out. wear a sick hat (not crazy but cool) nice watch, shoes, etc... LOOK GOOD with an added flare.

I am still improving my game, these are my ideas and also commentary on other college game advice. Keep it real, stay classy PUAs

J Slay

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So how did you pull those blowjobs man? I hit up party's seem to get the girl all wet but im having issues going from a make out to getting some dome. Like do you just pull her to the rest room, put her hand in you pants and then pull it out and be like "suck it" or what? I seem to be pretty good getting numbers, and make outs consistently but Ive never had more than a K close on the first night.

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So how did you pull those blowjobs man? I hit up party's seem to get the girl all wet but im having issues going from a make out to getting some dome. Like do you just pull her to the rest room, put her hand in you pants and then pull it out and be like "suck it" or what? I seem to be pretty good getting numbers, and make outs consistently but Ive never had more than a K close on the first night.
honestly dude, i have more success getting blowjobs than fucking. idk what it is but maybe im a dude girls want to give blowjobs to? Dont get BJs in a bathroom, always go to a friends room and get it on the couch (upstairs, away from the main part of the party) I get BJs because i close at parties and cant bring girls back to fuck. Need to improve on this.

but this is basically what i do:
- after kclose/dancing, tell her you want to sit down/go to a quiet place/want to get to know her better/take shots (liquor is upstairs and purposely dont find it ;) )etc... bring her to isolated area thats comfortable
- always look at the girls with good eye contact (pretend that you are her lover)
- dont talk to much, get down to business fast
- good sensual kissing
- rubbing her tits and body
- i basically pretend that i am her lover and i get sexual.
- i rub her pussy through her jeans then often i will finger the fuck out of her
- then i usually say after they had their orgasm: i am so fuckin hard right now and they grab my dick and blow

girls and humans in general feel the need to reciprocate, so treat her right first and they will treat you right back.

i often get blowjobs when im drunk and so is she. so find girls who are drunk and horny and go from there. Or if you dont like that, keep working on your game like me.

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Another aspect of college game is social proof and reputation.

The reason why upper classmen get laid more is that they have social proof and higher standing than younger college students.

the reason why frat bros get laid more is for the same reason - they are well liked, throw parties, act alpha, etc... they have social proof and standing

Athletes get laid more often because of the same characteristics

social proof and standing is the proof that you are not just an average joe and that you have value.
Upperclassmen have experience, education and age on younger girls
frat bros have confidence, their brotherhood, parties compared to non-frat guys
athletes have their team, fitness, potential for future in sports

Women chase men who have current and future value relative to their campus. Jersey chasers or money grubbers are what women are, if you have these things, women will flock to you easier than others without these traits

Being "ALPHA" is just this, all these guys are alpha in their own sense. They get laid more often because of it. If you can figure out a way to build yourself into an alpha male, in your own special way, you will succeed. A guitarist of a band is alpha in his own way and so is the TA of your microecon class. Figure out who you want to be. "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."

go out there on your campus and become an important person in the community. build your reputation, become president of a club, social organization, sport team or what not. Make yourself more alpha on your campus so you can succeed. and continue to PRACTICE SARGING

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I went out last night on actual halloween night and tried a new method, needless to say this shit is some powerful stuff. Nicknamed the "anti-manifesto" of PUA by the 60 years of challenge, it changed the way i view pick up.

blog/the-pua-anti-manifesto

Some view points i found interesting especially for college:

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Just by showing up, without doing anything, there is already sexual tension between you and women. It is natural and automatic.
That means:
1) There is really nothing “special” you need to do or say
2) Most women are already naturally attracted to you
He said do less not more. it is true. After opening, slow down and
do NOT do the small things that reduce the sexual tension that is already there. And eventually kill it forever.
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- talking
- laughing
- reacting
- fidgeting
- bailing her out
- supplicating facial expressions
Act like a boss - ie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c

lol but you know what i mean.

I approached two sets last night thinking about this method, I was quiet, slow and had great eye contact. I Kclosed within 5min each. they told me i was very "seductive" I still DHV, dropped game and kino'd but this helped it flow. I dont even remember what i did, it was that simple. College girls seem to be in despair about their lack of action and worried about their reputation, this method counteracts both and makes them have butterflies in their stomachs. It makes them want to kiss you! I remember i did use the MM Kclose line once but overall, college girls and i beleive girls in general, if you pay too much attention to them, they will become disinterested.

This is awesome and the rest is great too. its great to build your game around and im def using this shit in the future.

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I'm enjoying this thread, as a sophomore in college in a frat I am able to f close and k close at every party we have which is nightly yet some of the points made in this thread are very insightful to the college scene which I'm just starting to master.

So keep it up man i'll share some things I've learned when i have a bit more time.


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thanks man i appreciate it. you just reminded me of something i wanted to do. I wanted to emphasize 6 things which are extremely important aspects - ones that at parties either at a frat or a bar or a house - are the most significant.

1)
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4) First impressions are the best (....) be THAT guy. girls fuck THAT guy.
2)
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7) at parties, find and introduce yourself to random hot girls. do not chase your one-itis.
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8 ) DO NOT GET BLACK OUT DRUNK
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LOCATION IS KEY as ehukai helped me emphasize
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as a sophomore in college in a frat I am able to f close and k close at every party we have which is nightly
good shit man keep up the good work, i cant fclose even every other week! my school is wack with girls lol but no excuses no complaints

location is imperative, girls have less reasons not to fuck, fucking is just easy if the bed is close. the point is = HAVE PARTIES AT YOUR PLACE
if you are a freshman, sorry bros, you just gotta wait till next year to take advantage

TWO NEW POINTS OF ADVICE:

5)
Do not stay on one topic dont get boring, college girls are like us guys, we all get bored easily, we are used to action in our sports, cartoons and beer games. girls like action in their gossip, drama and other shit.
point is = STAY INTERESTING and mysterious

6)
Someone famous said dancefloor game is a death trap. It is smart to dance with girls, I often pick up chicks that way, but i can never fuck anyone of them. It is better to pick up girls first and bring them to dance for only a few songs. If you do pick up a girl on the dancefloor though, bring her off it after a few songs. tell her you want to get a drink with her or whatever you need to isolate. just get her away from the loud music so you can make your magic. The dancefloor is a trap, you can only kclose and never isolate. make your move early and reap the benefits.

dont beat around that bush, go slay the dragon!

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I wanted to discuss being a Freshman in this post. I am currently a sophomore but I know first hand how difficult it was and have friends who are currently freshmen. This is the advice that I gave them, some of which i read on this forum.

Freshmen year, every incoming student is reduced to square one. No more high school reputation and parties, you are with the big kids now. No parents, no curfews and no limits. That is why you need to have self discipline to do your school work and make time to socialize. Its all on you buddy.

Everyone is on an equal playing field, most people have no cars, no jobs, no money, difficulties getting booze, and problems finding parties. If you can overcome one or more of these obstacles, men and women will flock to you. You have social proof of your value and your reputation grows immediately. If you have none of this, get on it ASAP.

During the first week of school is when social circles form and cliques solidify. People with connections to frats/parties will instantly be valued above the rest. Many people become friends with this person and groups form around these types of people. I was one of them during my year. the first week, i made the point to go around to every room on my floor to introduce myself. not only to find the hot girls but to see if there were any bros i could chill with.

I went around the whole fucking building introducing myself. This was an amazing experience. I was instantly connected with many people and everyone liked me because i was that friendly upbeat guy who liked to party. I wasnt into PUA yet but this action boosted my status above many other more qualified alpha males. I was THAT guy, and girls wanted to fuck THAT guy. MY best friends were on my floor and other good friends were scattered around my building and others. I recommend doing this as soon as possible even if college is underway. There is no excuse to not be friendly in college.

People More Likely To Become Friends Based On Proximity - this is true. long distance relationships do not work and many freshmen break up with their high school girlfriends during the first month. the people you see everyday will become your best buddies, so make friends on your floor or nearby so you can build solid relationships and an inner circle that is tight. your differences may be large but there will be enough middle ground to build strong friendships, trust me.

Make sure you get a tight circle of guy friends and a group of girls second. if you become friends with only girls, and they turn on you, you will be left without anybody to chill with. you need bros to talk to about manly shit, to chill with, to smoke blunts with, to watch sports with, to talk about sex, bitches and shit. dont be a pussy dude with only girls as friends. find bro friends and as a group find girl friends and become tight with them.

Networking - is key as a freshmen. the people with connections will get first dibs on the hot girls and the good parties. so if you dont have any connects, go befriend someone who does or introduce yourself to that frat and get numbers. bro flirt now so you can do actual flirting to chicks at the party later. in the same way, befriend alot of random people around campus because you may see them at parties, in classes or wherever. you can chill with them and often pick up their circle of girl friends. I know this worked for me because since i was already friends with one of their friends, the girls thought i had a high level of social proof and thus value.

dont get into fights, they are just stupid. dont get blackout drunk, it is dangerous and stupid. dont go for your one-itis, it can ruin your reputation. do well in your classes, thats why your at college. get a fake ID, start drinking socially but not heavily and become a well rounded person. get in shape and look fresh everyday. listen to good popular music, no not lady gaga or kesha but hip rappers like kayne, mac miller and kid cudi. LEAVE YOUR DOOR OPEN (MOST) OF THE TIME to let people know you are around to chill.

basically always be friendly. i made up the freshmen challenge for my friends. the challenge is to introduce himself to 50 girls in one week. not to get numbers but that would be good too lol. I did that and more and it turned out alright. if you can name 50 or more people on campus then you are good right now. but if you cant or you havent done this, go do this now. its like high school even if your college is huge. you will see everyone around, im at a school of 13,000 and i see the same hot girls and random guys everyother day and even others at parties frequently. do your school work but keep dropping game everyday.




im like Brohammad Ali, kino like a butterfly and fuck like a bee.
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Ok guys, yall seem to really know what your talking about with college game. I need advice on closing a HB9 thats in my martial arts class. I got paired with her today and it was better than sex. This chick is fucking wet and had no problem getting close in grappling etc. That said there where no IOI's that I noticed, except your general chit chat. She's in second year and Im in first. So far just that would be a deal breaker in my college, but if I could even just number close this girl it would add so much confidence to my game. Im 18 and just starting out gaming for the last two weeks, yano reading style/mystery/hypnotica/gambler and all that. So ANY advice would be soooooo appreciated guys. Cheeeerzzz


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Yo dude, i understand that you want personal advice. I am giving general advice for everyone on this thread about college game. You can pick and choose what works and what doesnt work for you personally. I, many college PUAs and even my personal friends have found most of this shit to be true. If anyone has advice about college game theory, they are welcome to post as well. Btw this advice was my next post either way, so I guess you asked at the right time :P

This is advice i got from the mod Ryan Oceros, the blondguy. he is in london mackin on fine ladies all day.

This is an example lunch date conversation or general outline of a good interaction with a female:
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Comfort: what she was like growing up / what she wanted to be, favourite holidays, general interests e.g. music, film, etc.

Attraction: your goals, ambitions and desires, ONE or two (max) choice stories that involve an ex in some way, or female friends, or you being the social centre of attention, accomplishing something, or generally being portrayed in a good light WITHOUT bragging.

Tension: turn the conversation sexual towards the last 25% of the date, slow down words, lower pitch of voice, hold seductive eye contact and use triangular gazing to look at one eye, then the other, then her mouth, then the first eye again, spending about 1-2 seconds on each.
great shit ^ up in here. I like the breakdown as 40%, 35% and 25% for each section. However, there will be situations where this is wrong or go faster/slower, so use discretion.
use the force wisely dudes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9XYKY4K ... re=related






For direct day game on college campus

I created this format for myself and asked Ryan if he approves. He did and so i tried it out and it is fantastic. good stuff.

Opener: Hey i just saw you walking by and you are the hottest girl i've seen today so i thought i had to stop and get to know you
- names
- what are you doing here / what are you studying
- joke about boyfriend (let me ask one question, who is the lucky guy?) (one question, how many boyfriends do you have?) - credit to sashapua
- talk about school and parties
- "we should hook up sometime" "we should hang out and have multiple orgasms"
- whats your number
- what should i save you as? (funny nickname)
- ill text/call you
- kiss on cheek
- "see ya soon"

credit ryan and sasha for most of this great stuff. if the girl is giving you weird looks, like the wtf look, ask the boyfriend question immediately after opening. If you want to watch a pro do it, there are some free vids from sasha and ryan about direct game. http://sashapua.com/videos/ they were really helpful

you guys may ask why isnt there any flirting.... did you guys read the 60 years of challenge? just by walking up to a random hot girl and talking to her, there is sexual tension. By telling her that you think she is sexy, there is massive amounts of tension already. But dont fuck it up by talking to her like she is just a sex object. talk to her like a friend after the introduction bc you need to build that immediate comfort and rapport, the sexual attraction is already there. Invite her to a party the upcoming weekend, here you can demonstrate your higher value and social proof if its a good party, you know many people, etc.

-EDIT- as a general rule, do not try to go for girls who are taller than you. It can work but its hard, they often make judgements and you fail. Just a recommendation to increase your chances for success. -EDIT-



hope that helps and good luck

"If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all." also applies to yourself. confidence bro

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Hey college puas,

i am technically on my 7th or 8th day of my challenge and this is my total summary:

weekday total (including thursday):
- 5 #closes
- 1 kclose

Weekend total (only Friday and Saturday):
- 3 blowjobs
- 12 #closes
- 4 kcloses

Sunday was my day off and I still got 1 #close... FUCK YEA

Lesson learned: set a goal and force yourself to achieve it. Negative reinforcement to force you to conquer your fear. For example - if i didnt get a number or failed at my goal for the day, i would make myself run 5 miles. I used to run 5 kilometer or 3.1 mile races competitively but havent run over a mile in over 3 months so when i failed one day my chosen punishment of running was torture. it gives you incentives not to fuck up. also if you tell a friend, a very good friend, about your personal challenge, their is peer pressure to succeed. ex- same pressure that your friends convinced you to drink or smoke, it convinces you to overcome AA or other fears and go and pick up chicks.

Since i have had success with girls in the past as a drunk natural gamer, my friends were indifferent about my challenge but watched as i gamed some of the hottest babes at the party and they wanted in on the challenge. it became not just to get fucked by girls but a friendly competition between guys, then the heat turned up as we were trying to out perform each other. It became a lot of fun and we all improved our game. I recommend doing this with some of your friends, even if they arent a pua as well, tell them you just want to have a competition for pussy, then go out use your new skills to succeed and beat your friends.

i mean, thats what i did :lol: (friend got one fuck but we agreed 3BJs>1fclose)

*drunk tip: while staring at a person's elbow, you will never miss a high-five

J Slay

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wanted to discuss some aspects of immediate night game.



The challenge of social hierarchy.
(adapted from sharplin)

the social system in college is interwoven and tightly knit. its a closed system, Most people know each other, in some way. In this tight community, social hierarchy comes into play very strongly. It affects our judgement of other people and our perceptions of our surroundings. In this reality, a lot of girls see guys based on how popular they, what frat they are in, what sport team they are on, group of people they are apart of, etc. Regardless of what their personality is like, what openers or routines they use, the preconceptions of the girls are the ultimate judge for guys. On the streets or in a random bar, there are no cliques and no one knows other people's social status. Initial impressions rule this type of world, in the environment that we will experience once we graduate. In college, like high school, people know the preformed groups and they know people's popularity and social standing, which in the end, affects their perception of you.

now me:
The point of social hierarchy is to make the more alpha males float to the top and women flock to them because they have already been identified. It makes it easier once you are already there. BUT you can be not as good looking or as alpha as the top frat, and still have a good reputation. you just need solid game and to shape your lifestyle to shape what women are attracted to. dont turn into a Dbag but into something you admire.

OR

Every school has stereotypes. The Jersey Shore is Guidos, GTL all day right? exactly my point. what type of people are at your school? types include: bros http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqg01Nk3SYI nerds http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... 9,r:8,s:10 guido http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&um= ... 29,r:2,s:0 preppy http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... iBA&zoom=1 frat bro http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... 9,r:6,s:57 http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... 9,r:2,s:29 emo http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... ,r:11,s:46 hipster http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... 29,r:0,s:0 jews/JAPs = Jewish American Princess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fvP4OACmWw and Athlete/fans/jocks http://www.google.com/imgres?start=26&n ... 9,r:2,s:26 and "stereotypical student" http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&um= ... x=69&ty=14 there are others like gansters and druggies but these guys are not realistic in college in terms of gaming women at parties. otherwise these stereotypes are the ones most prevalent at college in America

*in no way was the list supposed to be derogatory, i am or was apart of more than half these groups at one point in time. Just wanted to present an unbiased view of modern college stereotypes*

who do you admire and aspire to be? if the girls seem to be attracted to one particular style, why not give it a shot? if you already have a style, try to make yourself look real fresh/dress well with your style of choice. dressing well impresses girls no matter what your social standing is, combined with solid game, it can not only raise your reputation but also get you laid ;)

MID GAME IN COLLEGE IS CRITICAL

In college many girls will introduce themselves and say hello at parties or anytime really. Everyone who goes out is horny, so if you open with confidence, no matter what you really say, its your body language and tone will ultimately determine her level of interest. Even without the best opener and body language, you can engage her with good game/routines before she gets bored or rejects you. it is crucial to get her interested in YOU. Either good body language or good lines, your choice but both at the same time is most effective.

It is the hook point and mid game is crucial for college game. You need to work on your conversation skills and your ability to game throughout a conversation. check this out for sexual attraction explained in depth by Chief. sexual-attraction-explained-in-depth-vt40419.html

my words of wisdom for today

what you can't do: stop everyone from talking about you
what you can do: stop giving a fuck

So go out and SARGE!

J Slay

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