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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:51 am 
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Since I recently started getting back into the game, I have noticed more and more that distractions can sometimes ruin game. Sometimes you cannot even control things that will prevent you from meeting new women. Basically, I wanted to post a blurb on them and also on a bad attempt, even for master PUAs.

Distractions.

So, back when I used to be a more frequently-practicing PUA in college, girls were always just standing around at parties, waiting to talk. You could say just about anything to them and the conversation starts. There was a general expectation to meet new people and stand around until it happens. I am sure that is still the case for anyone not in college.

Unfortunately, when you get out of college, chances are you will be going to bars, clubs, or other venues of the sort. Distractions get more and more active and deadly at these venues. Take for example the average club or a bar with dancing/loud music. What happens here? Girls are with groups of friends dancing much of the time or engaging in conversation amongst themselves. Guys are trying to dance with them or start a conversation, but what goes wrong more than 50% of the time?

This:

1. Confident guy goes to talk, gets shot down because the girl is already talking to her other 4 girl friends and wants to continue. She thought the guy was cute though, but can't talk to him that night.

2. Confident guy tries to dance with one girl in a group of girls. Girl feels awkward and moves away. Just what she wanted! But shes too into the moment.

3. Confident guy goes to talk, music is too loud to let the full effect of his game settle in. General hello and goodbye happens. Darn. You could've actually succeeded, but you cant even initiate good enough game to isolate her.

What do I do when there is a distraction like this that prevents my game?

A lot of times, NOTHING. For example, what can you do when girls are dancing with each other, and don't want a random guy trying to dance with them? Really nothing. You can't talk to them because its too loud and distracting.

I would just like to let guys know that sometimes it does not always work with every single woman and sometimes it can't work with many. Sometimes, girls don't even want guys to approach them or even talk to new people. Sometimes girls want to stay in their circle, talk and shut out guys for fun. I would laugh at anyone claiming they have 100% success with girls other than pure great luck. No guy is truly successful. I have been 100% successful on some nights and almost 0% successful on others. Shit happens so don't let it get you down.

Do I try everything I have learned and read? Of course. But sometimes, things just dont work out. Sometimes girls just want to give us more trouble than we need just to complain the next day about how they can never meet a nice guy. We can't approach all girls and succeed with them so don't feel bad if you don't.


Final note.

Hopefully my final note will give you confidence. Many times, if you approached 10 girls in one night and got 3 numbers, that is actually a 100% success rate because there was too much going on and too lame of women to make the other 7 attempts successful for anyone. Other times, 8 out of 10 may just be an 80% success rate because you did something wrong with 2 girls like dressing stupidly and they noticed. Point being, success and failure cannot always be judged by how many, simply how much you learn and how good you feel about yourself. So feel good that you actually know what game is!

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This:

1. Confident guy goes to talk, gets shot down because the girl is already talking to her other 4 girl friends and wants to continue. She thought the guy was cute though, but can't talk to him that night.
In this case you either wait for a distraction to jump in, or go and game other not difficult situations and come back later, also you need to read body, language, logistics and calibrate the set...
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2. Confident guy tries to dance with one girl in a group of girls. Girl feels awkward and moves away. Just what she wanted! But shes too into the moment.
How do you know that is what she wanted? you probably approach wrong or at the wrong time, or did not do your reads, there could be a million factors...
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3. Confident guy goes to talk, music is too loud to let the full effect of his game settle in. General hello and goodbye happens. Darn. You could've actually succeeded, but you cant even initiate good enough game to isolate her.
more body language eye contact, minimal verbal more escalation...
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What do I do when there is a distraction like this that prevents my game?

A lot of times, NOTHING. For example, what can you do when girls are dancing with each other, and don't want a random guy trying to dance with them? Really nothing. You can't talk to them because its too loud and distracting.
You dance with them...
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I would just like to let guys know that sometimes it does not always work with every single woman and sometimes it can't work with many. Sometimes, girls don't even want guys to approach them or even talk to new people. Sometimes girls want to stay in their circle, talk and shut out guys for fun. I would laugh at anyone claiming they have 100% success with girls other than pure great luck. No guy is truly successful. I have been 100% successful on some nights and almost 0% successful on others. Shit happens so don't let it get you down.
I agree with that, but it helps to read the group and look at body language and distractions..

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Do I try everything I have learned and read? Of course. But sometimes, things just dont work out. Sometimes girls just want to give us more trouble than we need just to complain the next day about how they can never meet a nice guy. We can't approach all girls and succeed with them so don't feel bad if you don't.


Final note.

Hopefully my final note will give you confidence. Many times, if you approached 10 girls in one night and got 3 numbers, that is actually a 100% success rate because there was too much going on and too lame of women to make the other 7 attempts successful for anyone. Other times, 8 out of 10 may just be an 80% success rate because you did something wrong with 2 girls like dressing stupidly and they noticed. Point being, success and failure cannot always be judged by how many, simply how much you learn and how good you feel about yourself. So feel good that you actually know what game is!
i do agree somewhat, yesterday was brutal for me, and it had nothing to do with skill, just the environment and factors out of my control, with that being said to get numbers to say you got something is a waste of time, numbers do not mean shit..Is ok to have an off night...

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