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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:16 am 
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This video makes me realize how much I should appreciate PUA

It's taught me to learn the rules of today's society


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:58 am 
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How feminism screwed my generation? lol how retarded.

Although I'm good at picking up women, I still support their ongoing fight for equal SPAM in society.


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How feminism screwed my generation? lol how retarded.

Although I'm good at picking up women, I still support their ongoing fight for equal SPAM in society.
Not sure what country your in but here in America women DO have equal rights.

Hell, in some cases they have more then equal rights. Divorce and child custody laws heavily favor women.

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I think he's been watching too much Fight Club... heh it's such a popular movie here. :D


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:57 pm 
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Not sure what country your in but here in America women DO have equal rights.

Hell, in some cases they have more then equal rights. Divorce and child custody laws heavily favor women.
Maybe, MOSTLY equal rights (not 100%), but definitely not equal SPAM. Saying that is the same as saying something like "Racism doesn't exist anymore".

I'm sure if you and I'm sure others here have the chance to talk a bit, I'm sure we'll discover quite a bit of sexism and prove that a culture of sexism and discrimination still exists against women.

I don't buy into the douchebag PUA mindset that so many in this culture subscribe to. You can be both good with women and support their causes and struggles.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:18 am 
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I'm all for equal rights too but women abuse their equal power of today to manipulate men like in the video but with the teaching of PUA, I have nothing to worry about literally nothing lol


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Not sure what country your in but here in America women DO have equal rights.

Hell, in some cases they have more then equal rights. Divorce and child custody laws heavily favor women.
Maybe, MOSTLY equal rights (not 100%), but definitely not equal SPAM. Saying that is the same as saying something like "Racism doesn't exist anymore".

I'm sure if you and I'm sure others here have the chance to talk a bit, I'm sure we'll discover quite a bit of sexism and prove that a culture of sexism and discrimination still exists against women.

I don't buy into the douchebag PUA mindset that so many in this culture subscribe to. You can be both good with women and support their causes and struggles.
Lol it makes me wonder if you're a woman signed up in here just to talk shit.

Women have enough rights in North America. There will always be a few cases where men will be sexist to women and vice versa. The interesting point that the guy in the vid made was that women often jump the fence to suit their needs. They want power and leadership but also to be taken out and taken care of. That's pretty messed up, but what's worst is that men think that they are supposed to submit to women due to social conditioning and this screws up the whole dynamic.

Men have turned into betas and women into annoying bitches. It's no wonder the divorce rate is high. Men think that acting like pussies will win them over but women are hardwired to be attracted to real dominating men, so while society tells the one thing, their subconscious says something else which confuses the masses.

Most people in the pua community know better and are much wiser then your average man if this generation. They know that regardless how society transforms, being a real alpha man will always prevail over these disgusting excuses for men.

I honestly don't care and also want women to have equal rights as that in itself provides no harm, and is more then fair, however the media and feminism have really fucked up western society and is spreading across the globe.


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American men are culturally castrated. All of the things we enjoy as a whole are considered immoral or disgusting. Traits that have long been considered more common in men, sexual directness, aggression, competition, ego, are now deemed useless in society. Yeah yeah, those aren't only found in men, point is still there. I'm tellin ya, women have been ready to get rid of us ever since the invention of two things: invitro fertilization and the stepladder.

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Men have turned into betas and women into annoying bitches.
lol, this is the attitude that I laugh about when I see PUA students in action. It's so fucking butthurt. It's really saying something like "I've been beta and rejected a lot, and it's feminism's fault", no, it's your fault for being a beta bitch in the past dumbass.

A lot of actual PUA's though (like Neil Strauss) have actually said they're okay with feminism, probably because they don't need to overcompensate and therefore aren't threatened by it.
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Men think that acting like pussies will win them over but women are hardwired to be attracted to real dominating men
I'm completely comfortable with women and my abilities to mate with them, so I don't need to overcompensate about how manly and dominating I am. I am who I want to be, not who some PUA told me to. I looooove women, and listening to the many I've fucked, I've come to sympathize with the bullshit they experience.

Wanting to not get sexually harassed at work and to get equal pay does not at all mean they want men to act like pussies.
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being a real alpha man will always prevail over these disgusting excuses for men.
Oh I'm sure you're a big man now, just like your mommy told you were when you first stopped pissing yourself.

It's just been so funny to listen to the women make fun of guys who think they're "real alpha men" as, well, total faggots.
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feminism have really fucked up western society and is spreading across the globe.
Yeah, as if the "good ol' days" were better. You know, the ones where the men where in charge and didn't let their daughters go until they were married. The ones where the woman wouldn't put out until she was married because it would shame her otherwise.

Oh boy, how I yearn to be married & miserable.

Dude, since women have gained freedom, they've gained the freedom to fuck without remorse, and everyone is getting laid casually now. Yep, feminism has sure ruined western society....


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:27 am 
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American men are culturally castrated. All of the things we enjoy as a whole are considered immoral or disgusting. Traits that have long been considered more common in men, sexual directness, aggression, competition, ego, are now deemed useless in society. Yeah yeah, those aren't only found in men, point is still there. I'm tellin ya, women have been ready to get rid of us ever since the invention of two things: invitro fertilization and the stepladder.
Like totally brah..
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lol why you being so defensive? and you're telling me I'm beta hahaha You also like to make points that suit your argument while you ignore the fact that I have no problem with equal rights and I don't view feminism as the same thing, as I previously stated.

Not all women are bitches, but this generation has created more backlash and feminist bullshit to deal with. While, for a pua it's another challenge and shit test to overcome, it's a different story for the average guy who is confused and lost.

I say that most men are betas this generation because it's true. I also don't put myself in that category as I know better and I know what qualities a real man has, but you can keep arguing and gossiping with your girlfriends during sleepovers and getting your nails done.

I didn't join the community to prove to some internet loser that I am who I say I am. I joined to constantly improve myself as a man and am doing solely for myself. You have a lot to learn and growing up, now why don't you go back to your video game forums where trolling and flaming works much better. :lol:


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I'd have to agree that there has been a fair amount of social castration of men in the United States. While some men may be the exception to the rule, I find that most men are generally afraid to reveal themselves even to individuals who they consider friends. Most guys put on this fake tough guy act, and they all no smiles or hugging until a girl sweeps them off their feet and makes them into a little cuckold.

I can remember even during the 80s and 90s that the world was not nearly so uptight. In an age where one little mess up on the intraweb can indeed fuck up someone's life, both men and women have become extremely uptight.

Instead, I think our country should go through a big group hug session (minus pedophiles and mass murderers), and really discuss what's going on in our society. The issue I'm seeing here is not one of feminism, but a lack of communication. If average well-rounded adults don’t speak for society then who does? A bunch of weird crazy psychos called extremists. We call female extremists feminists or Rosie O’Donnell; and male extremists are called conservative theocrats who think women should still be in kitchens with prairie dresses.

Whatever the case, we could all use a chill pill in this world and really learn to chill out. That’d be nice.


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Not all women are bitches, but this generation has created more backlash and feminist bullshit to deal with. While, for a pua it's another challenge and shit test to overcome, it's a different story for the average guy who is confused and lost.

I say that most men are betas this generation because it's true. I also don't put myself in that category as I know better and I know what qualities a real man has, but you can keep arguing and gossiping with your girlfriends during sleepovers and getting your nails done.

I didn't join the community to prove to some internet loser that I am who I say I am. I joined to constantly improve myself as a man and am doing solely for myself. You have a lot to learn and growing up, now why don't you go back to your video game forums where trolling and flaming works much better. :lol:
Not saying you're beta, saying that you're probably overcompensating for past beta-ness by shouting and screaming about how alpha you are.

You must have some past insecurities you're dealing with if you say that feminism is our enemy. You subscribe to this adversarial view of sex and/or relationships and that's what makes me think you're insecure.

I'm secure in myself, and get plenty o' women (the ones I actually like anyways) by just being real in my personality. So ya, I don't feel threatened by feminism, I can recognize that women face more disadvantages than men in more places (including my mother, my sister, my lifelong friends) and support them in that.

Doesn't really affect my ability to meet chicks and make them mine. Fruitful mating and supporting feminism/women's struggles are not mutually exclusive.


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Not all women are bitches, but this generation has created more backlash and feminist bullshit to deal with. While, for a pua it's another challenge and shit test to overcome, it's a different story for the average guy who is confused and lost.

I say that most men are betas this generation because it's true. I also don't put myself in that category as I know better and I know what qualities a real man has, but you can keep arguing and gossiping with your girlfriends during sleepovers and getting your nails done.

I didn't join the community to prove to some internet loser that I am who I say I am. I joined to constantly improve myself as a man and am doing solely for myself. You have a lot to learn and growing up, now why don't you go back to your video game forums where trolling and flaming works much better. :lol:
Not saying you're beta, saying that you're probably overcompensating for past beta-ness by shouting and screaming about how alpha you are.

You must have some past insecurities you're dealing with if you say that feminism is our enemy. You subscribe to this adversarial view of sex and/or relationships and that's what makes me think you're insecure.

I'm secure in myself, and get plenty o' women (the ones I actually like anyways) by just being real in my personality. So ya, I don't feel threatened by feminism, I can recognize that women face more disadvantages than men in more places (including my mother, my sister, my lifelong friends) and support them in that.

Doesn't really affect my ability to meet chicks and make them mine. Fruitful mating and supporting feminism/women's struggles are not mutually exclusive.
I don't know if you're misinterpreting text or are focusing too much of this overcompensating characteristic because you're probably making references to your mind about people who are actually like that.

I don't even talk about myself in my posts. When I said you gotta be alpha, that's 100% true and it's a big problem in society. Since when is being alpha mean you're insecure or overcompensating? Guys who post their problems here demonstrate high beta behavior which is mostly why their girls dump or cheat on them or totally disrespect them.

I knew you have a sister, I kept thinking it the whole time which explains your anger. I didn't guess your mother got mistreated as well but I suppose that's even more push to anger.

Personally, I love dealing with feminists. It's so much fun watching them trying to break my frame as if they have any chance. I see them disrespecting other guys in the group and they fucking take it. It's so sad, wish I could tell them they've been socially conditioned to be submissive to women but they are usually stubborn from my experience, and end up suffering...

I should have also mentioned here that feminism and social media has fucked up women as well. They don't know what's proper. If they do anything that's deemed traditional, feminists look down on them and that's why they are complete bitches. Feminism is about choice right? so if a girl likes cooking and taking care of her man that way, why do some feminists give her shit even though it''s supposed to be a choice. It's hypocritical and unfair. Then we have women who think they are supposed to be in charge and lead, and when a guy supplicates to that, they lose attraction and respect without understanding what is actually happening behind the scenes.

In this common scenario, both the guy, who is acting beta, ignorant and supplicating, and the girl who is acting alpha, taking charge and losing respect is also ignorant and socially conditioned. This is a very common scenario in western society which I have seen through people I know and people I meet. If you don't seee this, then you need to get out more cause it's very common, and stop letting your personal emotions dictate your judgement.


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When I said you gotta be alpha, that's 100% true and it's a big problem in society. Since when is being alpha mean you're insecure or overcompensating?
Well I think you and I interpret "alpha" wayyyyyyy differently. I interperet it as "Having absolute confidence in oneself" and I think you interpret it as that but having a real cocky-ass attitude with it (i.e. being a douche) and requiring some flunky "traditional" mindset.

You can be confident and successful in your endeavors (women, business, everything) without being a douche, and I tire of guys who get into PUA and suddenly become strident to the point where you want to deck them in the teeth.
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I knew you have a sister, I kept thinking it the whole time which explains your anger. I didn't guess your mother got mistreated as well but I suppose that's even more push to anger.
Yep, talk to the women in your life sometime yo, and listen. I mean, cast your attitude aside and really listen. You might find out there's shit that they deal with that you don't have to.

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Personally, I love dealing with feminists. It's so much fun watching them trying to break my frame as if they have any chance. I see them disrespecting other guys in the group and they fucking take it. It's so sad, wish I could tell them they've been socially conditioned to be submissive to women but they are usually stubborn from my experience, and end up suffering...
Haha, and they're probably all like "oh god, not this douchebag again".

Sure plenty of guys are beta. But so what? The guys who are confident in themselves can still make it with women, (and yes, even feminists) without having to act beta at all. Feminists don't demand submission in my experience, nor are they sexually uptight just because they hold the label about themselves, they demand fair SPAM in society. Fair enough.

Being nice =! being beta.
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They don't know what's proper.
Yeah, and what's proper?
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If they do anything that's deemed traditional, feminists look down on them and that's why they are complete bitches.
You seem to be saying "they" a lot, which seems like a thin veil for a personal experience.
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If you don't seee this [guys being beta], then you need to get out more cause it's very common, and stop letting your personal emotions dictate your judgement.
Yeah, guys act beta, so what? You say this like it's big fucking news.


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