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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:39 am 
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This is kind of a general question. I am 28. As I get older, I realize the scope of feelings that can enter and exit your life.


Do not get me wrong, I can be cold or cocky at times. However, I can really light girls worlds up with my sensitive side.

I notice I am more natural in a relationship then when I am not in one. I also open up.. Almost too easy. So I notice a lot of shit.

The question comes to mind. Who am I really. Sex really does motivate me during this time in my life. I try to dominate a women I sleep with.

However, I notice I start drama. Not entirely my fault, kind of drama. What is the deal with me. Can I do anything to work on the feelings that come up. And how would a PUA deal with them. Besides the obvious answers

Go to the gym, (I do)
Men do not have feelings.
Meditate or take yoga.
Chat to girlfriends.

And if you guys tell me inner game. I do in-visioning the future great and wonderful all the time. I do; imagine the worst case situation and you will realize things in life are actually good or great. I use words that inspire and build character. And I dream of what I am great-full all the time. I appreciate the good things.

So I will take new advice on how to deal, handle or manage your emotions from a PUA perspective. I am a sensitive guy, I can hide it, Ill admit it. what should I do here. I am feeling a lot more these days rather then thinking.

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Go to the gym, (I do)
Men do not have feelings.
Meditate or take yoga.
Chat to girlfriends.
This statement tells me that your inner game is nowhere near as good as you try to make it sound.

Men do have feelings, not admitting that is just weak.

And yes, I say inner game because that is where you need to start. You say that you practice "positive" inner game and stuff. Well, that is just to get yourself into the right mindset, basically it is inner game peacocking. If you wanna get good, you need to work on your problems for real, that is real inner game. Dig deeper, identify your problem and attack it.

You are afraid of having feelings? That is nothing to be afraid of, rather be proud of it. It is what makes us human.

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Go to the gym, (I do)
Men do not have feelings.
Meditate or take yoga.
Chat to girlfriends.
This statement tells me that your inner game is nowhere near as good as you try to make it sound.

Men do have feelings, not admitting that is just weak.

And yes, I say inner game because that is where you need to start. You say that you practice "positive" inner game and stuff. Well, that is just to get yourself into the right mindset, basically it is inner game peacocking. If you wanna get good, you need to work on your problems for real, that is real inner game. Dig deeper, identify your problem and attack it.

You are afraid of having feelings? That is nothing to be afraid of, rather be proud of it. It is what makes us human.
Well Ezo i think you misunderstood. I make drama all the time because of my feelings. What I was saying in the initial post is that I do not want, "Men do not have feelings," as a anwser to my issue. I know that some guys in the community can fully function at a level that makes them comfortable wile being in denial about there feelings.

This is not me. If anything.. when I open up. I play all my cards. I tell her. "I feel this way because of you doing this. and to me that is a game." I will let any girl know that I think her games are silly or weak. This gets us into a emotional zone. After which sex is great. However, I feel more vulnerable around the women after the fact.

is this a better description of what I do. I get to a emotional place with women these days. I just am not sure how real it is. I would like some clarity on my feelings. I get a lot of them.

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Good question, I need help here too. I dominated this girl when I started seeing her, but the more attached I became, the more I showed emotions and became AFC which I'm pretty sure put her off. Now, I'm about to lose it all. I can't help it. What to do, what to do, what to doooo?

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I find close finds, and even girls you have as friends are good people to share personal things with Image

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Sounds like you need to decide weather you want a relationship or want to continue being a PUA......

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not sure if this is related to emotional reactivity, but expressing emotions and emoting yourself are very powerful tools, there is no reason at all to hide emotions infact it is quite counter productive to try to remain stoic, expressing your emotions causes other people to feel the emotions you are expressing when you are doing so from a place of expression rather then reaction,

having emotional reactions from other people and living in reaction to others out of a need to fill something that is missing, needing leadership from others and having others define the meaning for your existance and who you are, this is the deep seeded route of emotional reaction, when someone says something unimportant to you but you need to prove yourself to them so you get angry or irritated, and that emotion sparks a reaction, when someone intimidates you and you feel the need to stop talking around them out of reaction for fear of what they may say or do, when somone starts irritating you because they have been saying the same thing over and over again, these are all reactions to other people and a lack of control over yourself, trying to solve inner problems and improve your over all control over yourself and your emotions will help you deal with these issues as well as trying to understand why you have these reactions in the first place can help you,

meditation, and practise controling your own emotional state can help you with this and have been the two things that have helped me the most with this issue as it is one of my main focal points

it is not expressing your emotions that you avoid, it is not being able to control them in reaction to other people, and neediness is also an inner issue that has to deal with a feeling that having exterior validation will somehow make you feel complete, and the internal only gets fucked up once you realize that once you have that validation it is only a quick fix and is never enough, something will always be missing until you learn to fill that void with yourself, you are all you need and there is enough of you to give to others, no one could ever give you more then what you could already give yourself, once you can find who you really are this should stop happening to you, but that is the journey that never ends, you have to take the journey and find yourself, realize that you can be happy simply because you will it, learn to control your own emotional state and practise holding your focus on how you want to feel, learn to seek your own approval, rather then the approval of others and improve yourself,

try to be more proactive in day to day interactions, be the person in control of the frame, act through your own intentions, do what you want, and transfer and express your emotions to other people so they feel what you feel, you will find when you feel good, people will find being around you good, when you speak they will get giggly and laugh, when you are irritated they will feel it and start to become the same until you are at each others throats, if you are emotionally neutral what you are saying and doing will become neutral and things tend to get boring, when you are sad you can bring others down, etc. etc. etc., learn to generate your own emotional state

being happy is like a drug, and you can do it all day long if you want and have the mental strength and focus


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Arent you in the Pick Up ARTIST forum already?

I see this as one rare type of art, therefore, a kind of expression from all of those who enter here and actually build a life within the pua community.

You are here to find the meaning those emotions held to you, and thats how you deal with em.

You dont supress, you stop denying emotions, you begin to feel fully, to wait for the next emotion to come and to recognize why is here and how can you live it again.

You are here to leave you fingerprint in this world, and you chose to be with a woman by your side.

Its one hard step to give those emotions to everyone, without shutting up or avoiding your true feelings, but Id say its rather a strong side of us rather than a weak one.

I also think its really good to live by your emotions, its the real way of living your life.


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not sure if this is related to emotional reactivity, but expressing emotions and emoting yourself are very powerful tools, there is no reason at all to hide emotions infact it is quite counter productive to try to remain stoic, expressing your emotions causes other people to feel the emotions you are expressing when you are doing so from a place of expression rather then reaction,

having emotional reactions from other people and living in reaction to others out of a need to fill something that is missing, needing leadership from others and having others define the meaning for your existance and who you are, this is the deep seeded route of emotional reaction, when someone says something unimportant to you but you need to prove yourself to them so you get angry or irritated, and that emotion sparks a reaction, when someone intimidates you and you feel the need to stop talking around them out of reaction for fear of what they may say or do, when somone starts irritating you because they have been saying the same thing over and over again, these are all reactions to other people and a lack of control over yourself, trying to solve inner problems and improve your over all control over yourself and your emotions will help you deal with these issues as well as trying to understand why you have these reactions in the first place can help you,

meditation, and practise controling your own emotional state can help you with this and have been the two things that have helped me the most with this issue as it is one of my main focal points

it is not expressing your emotions that you avoid, it is not being able to control them in reaction to other people, and neediness is also an inner issue that has to deal with a feeling that having exterior validation will somehow make you feel complete, and the internal only gets fucked up once you realize that once you have that validation it is only a quick fix and is never enough, something will always be missing until you learn to fill that void with yourself, you are all you need and there is enough of you to give to others, no one could ever give you more then what you could already give yourself, once you can find who you really are this should stop happening to you, but that is the journey that never ends, you have to take the journey and find yourself, realize that you can be happy simply because you will it, learn to control your own emotional state and practise holding your focus on how you want to feel, learn to seek your own approval, rather then the approval of others and improve yourself,

try to be more proactive in day to day interactions, be the person in control of the frame, act through your own intentions, do what you want, and transfer and express your emotions to other people so they feel what you feel, you will find when you feel good, people will find being around you good, when you speak they will get giggly and laugh, when you are irritated they will feel it and start to become the same until you are at each others throats, if you are emotionally neutral what you are saying and doing will become neutral and things tend to get boring, when you are sad you can bring others down, etc. etc. etc., learn to generate your own emotional state

being happy is like a drug, and you can do it all day long if you want and have the mental strength and focus
This is good advice.. I agree with a lot of what you say. I practice meditation. I also work on something where I think of my (Wants VS Needs) If I think of things in this light I find that I need very little out of life. I want quite a bit. I dream big, u know. So when someone without my knowledge level of social dynamics enters my world, and they do or say something out of character with out true emotion. I sense it. I pick up on Bullshit better now these days. I feel what I want to feel when I want to feel it in a relationship. When someone does not open up to me after I take the regard to open up. I get super defensive. Its like a alarm clock goes off inside of me that says. (Do not keep putting yourself out there, you will get hurt.) A part of me knows that this is some part of me that throws caution to the wind... At this point in my thinking!! I come to a point in any, situation, relationship or report.. Where I am 50 50 about how to take my actions. Like I could flip a coin.

My feelings say; "Be true, express yourself in any regard. Keep it real Cha."

My logic says; "Knock it off Cha, your obviously more mature then the person involved in this. So act, as if.. Or act numb or carefree. This way you will be safe."

You can totally flip a coin and I do not know what will be right. Its just a delema that I face as of late. I have been on this forum for over 6 months now actively. There feels like there is no right or wrong here. Also, I used to be internal. I feel like I am more external as of late.

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Arent you in the Pick Up ARTIST forum already?

I see this as one rare type of art, therefore, a kind of expression from all of those who enter here and actually build a life within the pua community.

You are here to find the meaning those emotions held to you, and thats how you deal with em.

You dont supress, you stop denying emotions, you begin to feel fully, to wait for the next emotion to come and to recognize why is here and how can you live it again.

You are here to leave you fingerprint in this world, and you chose to be with a woman by your side.

Its one hard step to give those emotions to everyone, without shutting up or avoiding your true feelings, but Id say its rather a strong side of us rather than a weak one.

I also think its really good to live by your emotions, its the real way of living your life.
I like what your saying. I have been living more by how I feel as of late. However, do you see any faults with this. I am reminded of that Chepplle skit. "When keeping it real goes wrong." I dont know if u understand the reference. I have to run. I like the advice though thanks bra

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