I've been noticing that with some girls letting them show more interest seems to work far more effectively.... but with other girls it seems like if you wait for them they will NEVER contact you... And sometimes deep down they really like you.

It seems to me with shy girls, girls with trust issues, or girls with lower self esteem, you have to be more persistent... also good girls/christian girls this often times seems to be true as well (at least in my experience). I'm very attractive and i find that 7's or 8's that i'm gaming also need a lot of persistence.

With shallow girls/ very materialistic girls, and very outgoing girls it seems to be better to let them chase.

Any thoughts or comments on my experience? I would like some input so that I can analyze better. Before anyone comments when I say be persistent I do not by any means mean be clingy. My definition of persistence is NOT talking on the phone/text but trying to hang out in real life with that said girl once a week or anytime I see her.

I agree completely. PUA is for HB7-10s that feal that they are. When you get to girls that may look like 7s or 10s, but lack confidence for whatever reason most of these rules are out the window. My current girlfriend was this way and it took much persistance. I think the reason I kept at it was that she was the only girl in my life putting up any resistance whatsoever. I need something thats out of reach and everything else was right there for the taking.


Another thing to note is that I never picked up on her lack of confidence. She tells me that she just lit up whenever I was around.

Well advice given on this forum is usually very general, and since every girl is different you will need to adapt your game to their unique personality.

That being said, you must be very careful when categorizing women as you have been doing. Because these are just perceptions you have of them. People, and women especially, have a way of presenting a very false, very different impression of themselves to the world, while being completely different on the inside. Often times they will even present the world with a complete opposite version of themselves as a defense mechanism to protect their true selves. For instance shy nice girls (even christian ones), have a ton of untapped sexuality which they may find unexpected outlets for; for instance cheating or wild partying or secret drug or alcohol problems. And shallow materialistic girls are often times just looking for acceptance and love, and actually much nicer than they appear at first. But all girls are unique.

These techniques for these women will work as you have described them, I agree with you. But I just thought I'd mention, that you should be careful about who you are pursuing, if you plan on anything more long term.