hi , im am pretty new to this board and have an opinion and am open to comments

these methods are very good at getting men to approach women and get them to go on dates or maybe even sleep with you , but what about the long run like an actual relationship, alot of guys memorize these openers and stories and come at women with a false self, but in the long run women to will see thru that initial personality and see who you are in actuality. so is basically PUA is only for a "fling" relationships

am i rite????

Nope. You're not right at all.

Most guys' early game is memorized lines and routines and games and shit. But when you start getting into the Matrix-level stuff, you'll find a lot of information on relationship maintenance and long-term game.

This forum tends to be swamped with beginners, but there are guys working on relationship maintenance in the PMZ and other forums.

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I've never used canned lines and routines and strike me down if it ever becomes a regular occurance (sometimes they're handy when you draw a blank or want to evoke a certain thing from a target). Myself as well as a good number of other people like to use the psychology and the concepts that drive all the canned stuff and use it to adjust our natural game, so that we can get the same results. There's no pretending or showing fake emotions or anything like that, so there is no misleading or making a girl fall for someone that you aren't and then discovering that down the line and ditching you.

I had this same discussion with a friend of mine last night actually and by the time I was done, I had her going from "It's hollow and manipulative" to considering learning how it works so that she can make her own relationships work better. This girl is completely against being with many people, but just wants to be with quality people and she has terrible abilities to keep them. The concepts apply to both women and men and apply to short and long term relationships.

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