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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:23 pm 
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This is my first attempt at explaining a concept i have sort of opened my eyes to lately since being in the community so Id like to share it!

What is the Vibe
A person's emotional state or the SPAM of a place as communicated to and felt by others (I looked this up after I wrote this up so I think I got it pretty much right :) )

Vibe and emotions are very similar, but when you vibe with someone you are able to SHARE the emotion with the other person through the interaction and setting. That is why the vibe is SO damn important. In my opinion this is the most important part of ANY interaction (in person, texting, on Facebook chat) so you need to get this right before you try ANYTHING.

The vibe is the feeling you get from an interaction while its happening and it sure can last a while afterwards too, either bring you up or bring you down or simply leaving you neutral. (Ok so think at a checkout for a store where you interact with the salesperson. You get a funny person, it improves your day slightly after leaving you with a smile, you get a rude person, you may be left feeling unhappy after, both varying to different extremes, or neutral is just left feeling exactly the same) Because of the vibe of the conversation. Yes this encounter is very brief but it’s just an example.

So.. The vibe itself is the feeling you have in a conversation that you are SHARING, whether it’s happy, sexy, funny, angry, rude, awkward, weird, etc. It’s completely psychological but it can be more present than anything physical around you and completely empower the reality. Because it’s in your mind which controls interpretation of everything so much that you can get so caught up in the moment because of the emotions given from the vibe of the conversation.

Think of simply a time where you are sitting around laughing hysterically with friends. You are vibing the emotion of extreme happiness. You start laughing before you can even finish your joke, and your mates laugh at this as well and they haven’t even heard the joke yet. Laughing is contagious for this very reason! Its extremely powerful - you’re not thinking about anything else going on in your life right now, just this interaction and how you are feeling. It’s the fucking same with meeting women. You can seduce a girl before you even ask her for her name with the right vibe present.

It happens between people in any given interaction. When going good, the vibe is usually very similar for both parties. If not it should be the same.
Then when it’s not there, two people are on a totally different page. And the interaction goes bad. Sometimes an interaction starts off so well! the vibe is great and therefore the interaction is great! and sometimes it’s terrible and awkward and you just have to get out of there because it feels doesn’t feel good to be apart of.

Just be present in the moment during the interaction and you will notice it. You will feel it.

Ok, so how do we create this vibe.
The person controlling the dominant frame can set the vibe of the interaction. It is very similar to framing. But it is the feeling you both share from the frame you create. Whatever you feel, they can feel too. When the vibe is clear and present, they will be feeling it too. If someone in an interaction is happy, but the other person is extremely rude, the rude negative vibe will take over soon enough unless the happy person can eject before they realise its bringing them down too.

Notice I’m using sayings in italics that we hear all the time? These come from all over, because the vibe affects everyone.

So...You get to pick a dominant emotion. You can start it off straight away with an emotion like happiness to open a group, Or seductive right away when you get your target alone.

I hate to just throw in the term inner game and expect that to justify a lot of things, but it is just an important term always to mention. So yet again- Inner game is important for creating the vibe.

Direct Vs Indirect
Being direct, honest and upfront makes the vibe very clear also. Whereas I believe indirect game totally destroys the vibe by ignoring the fact that it’s there or not even creating it at all - which is totally contradictive to what you should be trying to do.

Why?
The aim is to get everyone on the same vibe - the same emotion. Why? Well because to me, this is what pickups all about at its core: Being in the moment, experiencing emotions and sharing them with another person.

Isn’t that really what this is all about?

Sex - enjoying the moment, experiencing the emotions like pleasure and sharing it with other people.
Relationships - Enjoying the many moments, experiencing emotions like love and sharing them with another person.

Without the vibe
Sometimes guys try everything on a girl, but she’s just not feeling it.. And they don’t notice this. So they keep ploughing, but they’ve already missed the most important aspect of the conversation. The vibe! If the vibe is shit, all the techniques you want to try won’t have nearly the same effect, if the vibe was flirty, or fun already. AND besides. If the vibe is shit... Why do you want to do it anyway??? You should only do it if you enjoy it!! A lot of the time if it’s not there, it’s not worth ploughing. Hold your frame. She can come back and share the vibe when she’s ready to be a part of it.

The Vibe is the reason why we girls want to be seduced by guys in the first place. that feeling they get when a guy gets the sexual vibe going. Its a lot of fun to create, and I hear its even more fun to be the recipient. Not in a gay way... haha (girls just enjoy being seduced and especially enjoy sex more from what I’ve been told - my girls anyway ;) )

Its even relevant in texting and facebook
I think this still applies with texting and communicating online. You should not buy into a vibe that is the awkwardness of brief and unresponsive texts back and forth. Just keep a fun vibe going so its enjoyable.

So. Get the vibe right! and lots of good things will start falling into place and you will get a lot further. Things like kissing her within the first minute of talking if you like, because you set a seductive and sexy vibe. She will respond the same if she’s feeling the same.

Its there in every interaction. So enjoy ;)

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This is my first attempt at explaining a concept i have sort of opened my eyes to lately since being in the community so Id like to share it!
Good job! This post was very good but there are many areas that you forgot to cover.

You could have explained how to get a vibe in more depth and There are many strategies and techniques you did not mention.

Here is just one aspect of your post that i disagree with:

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Direct Vs Indirect
Being direct, honest and upfront makes the vibe very clear also. Whereas I believe indirect game totally destroys the vibe by ignoring the fact that it’s there or not even creating it at all - which is totally contradictive to what you should be trying to do.
This is flat out incorrect. how about body language? that can convey a vibe that is different from what you are saying.

Also, You can create a comfort vibe and then switch over to a seduction vibe later on in the interaction, WHICH is the point of indirect.

but generally, direct game IS EASIER to convey a seduction vibe compared to indirect.
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The Vibe is the reason why we girls want to be seduced by guys in the first place. that feeling they get when a guy gets the sexual vibe going. Its a lot of fun to create, and I hear its even more fun to be the recipient. Not in a gay way... haha (girls just enjoy being seduced and especially enjoy sex more from what I’ve been told - my girls anyway ;) )
"The Vibe is the reason why we girls" and then "girls just enjoy being seduced and especially enjoy sex more from what I’ve been told - my girls anyway ;)"

So, you are both female and male? :P



But BB, i agree about the dominant emotion. As a PUA you want to be the ALPHA male and the dominant person in the interaction so that you can control the frame and vibe. In this way, you control the vibe of the group and then when you turn up the heat, you can dominate ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:06 am 
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The Vibe is the reason why we girls want to be seduced by guys in the first place. that feeling they get when a guy gets the sexual vibe going. Its a lot of fun to create, and I hear its even more fun to be the recipient. Not in a gay way... haha (girls just enjoy being seduced and especially enjoy sex more from what I’ve been told - my girls anyway ;) )

"The Vibe is the reason why we girls" and then "girls just enjoy being seduced and especially enjoy sex more from what I’ve been told - my girls anyway ;)"

So, you are both female and male? :P


OMG its to late edit it too. wtf no idea why I wrote WE. fml. my pink font in the chatroom is even more questionable now :P

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Here is my take on this. For some reason, I do not see any practical attainment for seduction in this post, only a vague and abstract concept.

Don´t get me wrong, I do understand the concept of vibe, but this is surely not the way to teach it. It is like saying: when you are high on an emotion things will go great!

Well, my response to that would be: No shit!

Same sort of advice as saying that when your state is great you will have better body language, better tonality, better sub-communications and awesome intent. Again, no shit!

Look at it like this: Assume that the color red is the most attractive color. What you are doing now is simply describing the color and telling us why it is great.

What you should be doing is share how you mix other colors to consistently get the color red.

I´m saying this because I believe you do have some nuggets of gold to share, you just need pointers on how to share them.

Take care!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:05 am 
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Nice article.

But, I'm not too sure you understand direct and indirect.

The term's are describing when you show interest.

You can still convey a vibe by going indirect.

I'm pretty sure, most indirect practitioners still open with a fun, happy vibe, and then later change it to a more seductive, serious vibe when they begin showing interest, after they are ready.
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Direct Vs Indirect
Being direct, honest and upfront makes the vibe very clear also. Whereas I believe indirect game totally destroys the vibe by ignoring the fact that it’s there or not even creating it at all - which is totally contradictive to what you should be trying to do.
In, general, I go Direct, but I don't start with a seductive serious vibe. I start with a happy, fun, up beat vibe. Apparently when you first meet someone, an up beat vibe will make them ignore most/all of your bad features which you convey verbally, maybe physically. I think it's called the halo affect or something like that.

I also prefer, a gradual change in the vibe so it doesn't spoil the mood. Think "boiling the frog".


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:07 pm 
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Good post because it is the foundation of the interaction, like the deep core feeling of it

But also reading through this can sound like jibberish or alien talk to some

Your lifestyle and who you are gets translated through your vibe, which is why a good way to become this "vibing" person is to make friends, go out, do things, learn things, have a passion, accomplish things, etc

Its one thing to vibe and be funny, its another to sprinkle in sexual feeling and doing it appropriate to the girl/situation. i think the easiest way to add a little sexual tension is to just get close to her when you are talking, and it makes it less "awkward" if you dont directly face her, but talk to her at a 90 degree angle, both looking away. Then keep testing her comfort by scooting closer. So you're like 3 feet away for the social bubble, then 2, then 1, eventually you're rubbing against her leg or arm just naturally. Just feeling sexual and close to her, while being comfortable (and social, not creepy/weird) sends the best vibe. Humor is the best way to kill any "awkward tension"

Its good to watch naturals vibing, and how easy it becomes to GIVE off positive energy and not taking any away. There are always those who give energy (good vibe) and those who take energy (bad vibe)

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Setting the vibe is crucial, all girls want to escape the drab and boring monotone of life, if you can offer them this, they will fall at your feet.


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