Question's in the topic title.

I have learned from a lot of different people and believe that everyone contributes some value. They all bring their own unique style & experience to the table.

I like how Mystery can explain the social dynamics of an interaction. I like how David X emphasizes honesty, and pursuing whatever you want. I really gained some profound insights from Eben Pagan's book, Attraction Isn't A Choice.

However, I must say that my favorite seductionist is Ross Jeffries. This is due to the fact that he is a master practioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. I have always been fascinated by the brain and really want to understand how it works. I believe that NLP is an avenue that will allow me to do so. He is a great teacher, so when I get rich I do plan on purchasing 1 on 1 coaching.

What do you guys think?

I'm torn between two now. First off, I want to say there are a lot of good instructors out there and they all have the niche's that make them good guys. I'd say that AFC Adam Lyons is an obvious choice. He is very very good at what he does and his students are phenominal from what I hear. Despite being married he is still very active helping people and attending seminars.

Also, Jon Sinn would be my second. Jon can break down game like nobody's business. He worked under Mystery for years and was the lead instructor for Mystery Method then he worked with Savoy. From there he's mastered his own techniques and single night lays with the help of Capt. Jack some. His obsessive nature allows him to be able to break down any instructor in the communities game and analyze like you wouldn't believe!!! From what I hear he genuinely cares about his students and follows up with them too. He has a great blog by the way. http://sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com

I personally have learned SO MUCH from reading Sinn's blog that it's melted my brain and reassembled it a few times. His takes on the community and "game" are definitely his own and are well thought out.

With that being said I'll mention some seriously under rated PUAs and instructors in the game today.

-Doc Holiday (this young man is a day game master)
-Speer
-Psych (I've heard interesting stuff about this guy, he's on his way!)
-Bravo PUA (Amazing stuff for online game)
-Steve Mayada aka El Topo (his red stack is awesome and his ability to go sexual is amazing)
-Capt. Jack (the pirate king is great a single night lays and taught most of the best instructors in the business how to master it as well)

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Adam Lyons is a pretty cool guy. Sinn has some great material on YouTube. I like the fact that he actually goes infield, demonstrates, then breaks it down. That, in my opinion, is the best way to teach. Speer has a couple good pickups on YouTube too. I wish RJ had more infield demonstrations. I think hes got like two lol.

As for those othet guys, I'll definitely have to check them out.

ive read material from every guy listed here and Eben Pagan is the best, the smartest and most well thought out man in PUA history. But wtf calls him Eben Pagan in years? That,s silly. Just say DDA

I agree that David DeAngelo is a very smart man. He's a good marketer too. He doesn't just dable in PUA but also in business motivations and other things. My only thing with David D. is he has been away from the pickup community for YEARS now and isn't really bringing anything NEW to the table. That being said he put out some really awesome material.

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Vince Kelvin is incredibly fun and energetic, he's focused more on the technqiues, than on all the science on why it works. Which I prefer a bit more than trying to sound so scientific all the damn time, when really, it's not nearly required that much.

I agree with a lot of what you two are saying. However as i'm overly scientific and left brained, which chicks hate btw, I like DDA's cold logical approach but it would be a turn off to many more sensing/feeling types.

He is big on marketing and a former business motivation guy before he got into Pick up. And I do agree his most recent stuff has been his worst, "how to be a man who naturally attract woman", "man transformation" and "being mr. right" add nothing new to the game for me. But his old stuff was so enlightening he will always be my fav.

I met Speer last night a the LB lair. He's good, knows his stuff. Captures an audience well, and I can tell he can pull girls. Really funny guy.

I'm a big fan of Adam Lyons stuff, since he has plenty of free videos online. I'm excited to meet him during his bootcamp.

Does anyone know anything about Brad P?

all I know of Brad is he has been in the game a long ass time and his Shocker e-book is either a direct copy of Swinggcats Horse girl template, or Swinggcat stole it from him.

Kurt Spelling.

Yeah, I actually didn't know his name was Eben Pagan until a couple months ago. I think I heard it while reading The Game, but it didn't stick. Then I was looking for marketing advice and came across his videos on YouTube. I remember thinking, "This muthaphukka looks like David DeAngelo..."

Go figure...

Yeah, I actually didn't know his name was Eben Pagan until a couple months ago. I think I heard it while reading The Game, but it didn't stick. Then I was looking for marketing advice and came across his videos on YouTube. I remember thinking, "This muthaphukka looks like David DeAngelo..."

Go figure...

Also, Fiddle that's tight.. he teach you anything good?

I think he does have that new stuff i mentioned but it is more relationship stuff and nothing I want to hear about. Likely, just like you and I, people arnt really buying it or talking about it much.

I do think that a lot of these PUA guys, once they reach zen type enlightenment and success with woman, they start dissing and mocking the game that got them to that point. I notice this as a constant in the PUA community.

Yeah, Neil Strauss was dissing the community. I think he should be grateful for the community, because those are the ones that were there at the beginning, and helped him rise to power.

Has anyone heard of Paul Janka? He's claimed to have approached over 10,000 women.

He was even featured on Dr Phil. Some guy had on a headset, and Paul would tell him what to do.

Ya I read all of Paul Janka's stuff hes OK. "Getting laid in NYC" His stuff is more of a diary then a PUA guide but he has a heavily numbers based technique.

Basically he just walks around New York City, talks to every hot chick he can, number closes within 45 secs - 2 minutes, mass texts girls to build minor comfort and rapport, sets up dates at his apartment, then attempts to have sex with them. He says he closes from number close to F-Close, one out of ten. That seems reasonable to me with decent game and good looks, which he has.

His strength is more in his methodical process and determination and work effort then in tricks and great skills. But I think he has solid game as well.