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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:28 am 
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Its hard to believe that 2011 is almost over! The year has been amazing for me and I hope it has been for all of you as well. Along with the coming new year, the holidays, the amazing holiday food, something else always comes at the end of each year.... the cliche top pua list.

Seems like everyone and their mother wants to blog about who they see as the "best of the best" when it comes to picking up women. That, however, is not what the following list is about. It doesn't matter how good with women a certain guy is if he sucks at teaching students how to get the same results. Therefore, the following list is my top picks for Seduction Teachers of 2011.

Don't take the list too seriously, its all in good fun.

10) DJ Fuji

I admit that I don't know much about DJ Fuji himself but i've met many of his students and they all seem to do pretty well. As a plus, most of his students are pretty normal as well.

9) Paul Janka

If you live in a big city and like to meet cuties during the day, Paul Janka is the man to learn from. Hailing from New York city, Janka is probably a big reason why they say the city never sleeps. I don't know about the men but I know why the women arn't getting a whole lot of rest :wink:

His system is simple and effective and will work quite well if you have new limitless numbers of women at your disposal.

8) Chase Amante

I found Chase thru Aaron Sleazy. Though I have yet to meet any students who was personally coached by Chase, I've read both his book and blog. Not only do I (mostly) agree with what Chase says but he is able to convey his message very effectively. The effectiveness of what he teaches, combined what how good he teaches it, makes him a fine addition to this list!

7) Nick Quick (Adonis)

Nick Quick, along with his friend and business partner, Erik teach students in the city of sin itself; Las Vegas. What better city to teach students to get laid it? :P

Speaking of teaching, they seem to do that quite well! I've herd from several sources that over 50% of their bootcamp students get laid while on bootcamp! Thats pretty impressive when you consider that some companies can hardly teach their students to get numbers on thier personal training courses.

6) Aaron Sleazy

I don't have a whole lot to say about Sleazy except what he teaches is simple, effective, and healthy. To boot... he is pretty good at teaching it.

5) Rob Judge

Rob Judge, another New York native, has simplified his game down to four simple principles that are easy to learn but still massively effective. I've met a few of his students and they are all pretty decent and normal... none of that weird "community pua vibe" about them. Major bonus points for that.

A little trivia: Rob Judge is the only guy to have two SNLs filmed for two separate companies; Mehow's "Infield Insider" and Mark Manson's "PickupTube."

4) Alexander (RSD Fame)

Alexander teaches a very chill, laid back sexual style of game that focuses on having fun while being relaxed. His stuff is perfect for the more low energy guy. That aside, the reason he makes the list (if it was a pua skills list he would probably be top 1 or 2) is because his studnets always seem to enjoy a great deal of success. Its not rare to hear about a studnet getting laid while on bootcamp with Alex.

3) 60YearsOfChallenge

2011 has been a GREAT year for 60. He has gotten more exposure this year than any other year and deservedly so. Simple, effective (notice a pattern here?) and easy to learn and implement is what secured 60's spot in the top three. 60 is also from New York.

2) Mark Manson

Jesus... another New Yorker on here. There must be a lot of happy women in New York! Mark has recently released a book, "Models" which I believe is one of the best, no bullshit, and healthiest book available today. For that reason alone he made number two. Seriously guys, I cant overstate how good his book is.

1) Jeff Allen (RSD Fame)

The second RSD guy to make the list, Jeffy is, in my honest opinion, the best teacher on the RSD roster. What I love about Jeffy is that he teaches the more practical lessons from RSD without all the focus on the more spiritual and unneeded things often involved with RSD. Basically, Jeffy takes all the BS outta the RSD system and teaches the core concepts that are practical and work. Whats truly astounding is that Jeffy has a 60%+ student lay rate on his bootcamps... completely unmatched in the community as far as I know.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:24 am 
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Seems like everyone and their mother wants to blog about who they see as the "best of the best" when it comes to picking up women.
I honestly couldnt give a shit.

why does this list even matter? Its not about whos best and comparing them to eachother.

Maybe you are going down the teaching path... so youre getting into this whole marketing mindset of pickup....

Pickup should just be a personal improvement. not something compared to others, only yourself.

who cares whos better than who at what. Oh right. the marketing people do.


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Seems like everyone and their mother wants to blog about who they see as the "best of the best" when it comes to picking up women.
I honestly couldnt give a shit.

why does this list even matter? Its not about whos best and comparing them to eachother.

Maybe you are going down the teaching path... so youre getting into this whole marketing mindset of pickup....

Pickup should just be a personal improvement. not something compared to others, only yourself.

who cares whos better than who at what. Oh right. the marketing people do.
lol, u mad?

But seriously, there is nothing wrong with giving an opinion on who the best teachers are in the community. The better teachers you have access too, the shorter your learning curve will be (assuming you go out and put in the work too).

I've already had a few people tell me this list has exposed them to some new guys to check out which was my main goal.

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Yea and it did help me with who to look up and learn from a little bit. Thanks lol Idk what the other guy was trippin off of


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Classic example. mystery and style used to be number 1 on these sorta lists.

Yea I mad.

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Classic example. mystery and style used to be number 1 on these sorta lists.

Yea I mad.
Reading thru your original reply I think you seem to have the idea im ranking guys based on skill with women, I'm not. I ranked these guys based on skill of transferring their knowledge to those who seek to learn from them. However, had I made a list that ranked by skill it probably wouldn't have been much different. A few of the guys wouldn't be on there (such as Janka) and a few would be added (such as Tim from RSD).

The reason mystery and style was often #1 and #2 is because most of the people who publish such list were financially affiliated with Mystery and Style and had everything to gain from ranking them so high.

The truth of the matter is, many well known "puas" aren't actually that good with women. As a matter of fact there is even one guy on my list who I wouldn't consider to be amazing with women but he is however a great teacher.

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Classic example. mystery and style used to be number 1 on these sorta lists.

Yea I mad.
Reading thru your original reply I think you seem to have the idea im ranking guys based on skill with women, I'm not. I ranked these guys based on skill of transferring their knowledge to those who seek to learn from them. However, had I made a list that ranked by skill it probably wouldn't have been much different. A few of the guys wouldn't be on there (such as Janka) and a few would be added (such as Tim from RSD).

The reason mystery and style was often #1 and #2 is because most of the people who publish such list were financially affiliated with Mystery and Style and had everything to gain from ranking them so high.

The truth of the matter is, many well known "puas" aren't actually that good with women. As a matter of fact there is even one guy on my list who I wouldn't consider to be amazing with women but he is however a great teacher.

Most guys that are good with women do not belong to the community, they are naturals, they do not even know the community exist...Guys that are good with women 100+ would not want to have their real identity exposed.

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Most guys that are good with women do not belong to the community, they are naturals, they do not even know the community exist...Guys that are good with women 100+ would not want to have their real identity exposed.
yea this is why i see 0 point in things such as TOP 10 LISTS

they will never be correct.

anyway OP has listed some pua teachers he thinks were good this year so yea this thread does serve a purpose to those who want to know who some good teachers of pickup were this year.

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Do you think it's a little biased being an RSD fan?


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Jeffy's bootcamp lay rate is high, coz none of the other guys supply a Rape van for students to get laid.

btw. I think TD should at least have a mention in the list coz I saw his footage in Hotseat and that shit is simply amazing. Also I took a bootcamp with Alex and Jeff 2 weeks ago I have to say it is solid stuff, and I can see immediate improvement in my game


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1) Jeff Allen (RSD Fame)

The second RSD guy to make the list, Jeffy is, in my honest opinion, the best teacher on the RSD roster. What I love about Jeffy is that he teaches the more practical lessons from RSD without all the focus on the more spiritual and unneeded things often involved with RSD. Basically, Jeffy takes all the BS outta the RSD system and teaches the core concepts that are practical and work. Whats truly astounding is that Jeffy has a 60%+ student lay rate on his bootcamps... completely unmatched in the community as far as I know.
I've been intrested in RSD due to they hype about it .Ive watched and listened to a few of their programmes but no offence its sooooooooooo borrrrringggg with all the theorys of why people are bad at game , I can see why it's needed for beginners though. Im yet to come across Jeff, what programmes does he appear in ?


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1) Jeff Allen (RSD Fame)

The second RSD guy to make the list, Jeffy is, in my honest opinion, the best teacher on the RSD roster. What I love about Jeffy is that he teaches the more practical lessons from RSD without all the focus on the more spiritual and unneeded things often involved with RSD. Basically, Jeffy takes all the BS outta the RSD system and teaches the core concepts that are practical and work. Whats truly astounding is that Jeffy has a 60%+ student lay rate on his bootcamps... completely unmatched in the community as far as I know.
I've been intrested in RSD due to they hype about it .Ive watched and listened to a few of their programmes but no offence its sooooooooooo borrrrringggg with all the theorys of why people are bad at game , I can see why it's needed for beginners though. Im yet to come across Jeff, what programmes does he appear in ?

i read jeff get laid and die trying, it was a drunk doing mm, i was not impress at all...

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1) Jeff Allen (RSD Fame)

The second RSD guy to make the list, Jeffy is, in my honest opinion, the best teacher on the RSD roster. What I love about Jeffy is that he teaches the more practical lessons from RSD without all the focus on the more spiritual and unneeded things often involved with RSD. Basically, Jeffy takes all the BS outta the RSD system and teaches the core concepts that are practical and work. Whats truly astounding is that Jeffy has a 60%+ student lay rate on his bootcamps... completely unmatched in the community as far as I know.
I've been intrested in RSD due to they hype about it .Ive watched and listened to a few of their programmes but no offence its sooooooooooo borrrrringggg with all the theorys of why people are bad at game , I can see why it's needed for beginners though. Im yet to come across Jeff, what programmes does he appear in ?

i read jeff get laid and die trying, it was a drunk doing mm, i was not impress at all...
That book is the chronicles of his old lay reports. What Jeffy and the rest of RSD currently teach is nothing like MM. To be honest, what Jeffy teaches currently is a lot like 60yearsofchallenge.

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Jeffy's bootcamp lay rate is high, coz none of the other guys supply a Rape van for students to get laid.

btw. I think TD should at least have a mention in the list coz I saw his footage in Hotseat and that shit is simply amazing. Also I took a bootcamp with Alex and Jeff 2 weeks ago I have to say it is solid stuff, and I can see immediate improvement in my game
Rape van? Nah dude, its a "Consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of reproduction van."

But yeah, having that does help with logistics but that van stays in San Francisco and Jeffy gives bootcamps worldwide. From what I've seen his students lay rats are still pretty good even without the van.

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Why is 60 on number three? he should be on the number one spot 8)



There's a lot of PUA's missing that really deserves to be on the top 10 list.





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