First of all, I believe, everyone should built his own type of game which is most suitable to his personality, logistics, goals and etc. - This is my game. Take what works for you and reject what doesn't-I'm not gonna be offended in any way. Feel free to critique or discuss-constructive debates can help everyone improve.

This is my personal take on what game is, and how to get better at it.

To me, there are 6 stages to game. In any situation. Anywhere.

Each stage builds upon previous one.

1)Inner game-coming to peace with yourself, understanding and accepting yourself, being in the moment,having good intentions.(Eckhart Tolle's "Power of now"-is great on this.)-don't miss this one. In my opinion, this is the FOUNDATION of your game. No matter how many books you read without good foundation it'll all crumble.

2)Motivation/working on logistics a.k.a getting your life together-basically taking action, can be helped with good intentions. Getting a haircut, doing laundry and cleaning your apartments as well as thinking ahead logistics goes here.(Zan Perrion is my favorite on the subject of good intentions and logistics-who knows them better than you? Tim's "Flawless Natural" is good too.) - basically- don't become KJ-get out onto the streets-approach goddamit! One thing to notice is, instead of thinking about outcomes like success or rejection, think as its gonna be either fun or not, because in the end, she can't truly reject you-Only her perception of you.

Being high energy, having fun, being "in state"-is very important here.

3)Communication/connection-can be built with honesty/respect/creativity(not lame ass conversations) and imho most importantly through curiosity(Can't advise anyone, but I'm currently looking into in10se's communication building book-I'll tell you my opinion on it afterwards)-THIS IS FLAKE/LJBF KILLER!...also, the only way to find a gf or a person you'll want to do something instead of just fucking is to find someone you can connect with. (This will be further discussed in relationship section since connection in approach and LTR are the same.) Also-one important thing is SEE THE BEST IN PEOPLE-the reason? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD1512_XJEw

4)Sexuality-ability to express it-there is ton of stuff on this subject my favorite one being GWM(CAUTION- DON'T GET INTO GWM'S PESSIMISTIC/chauvinistic MODE-that's not a good part of his writings) and 60yoc(but don't remember to look at it through your lenses i.e. try them out with open mind, see what works and what doesn't, but don't necessarily accept world view of the author as your own)-this is a biggie. THIS IS LJBF KILLER! Kino escalation, tension building, push pull all that staff goes here-remember if you don't get sexual you'll probably not get laid.

5)this is tricky one...Sex/LTR management/ understanding your partner-these three are huge topics in, but i believe they're interrelated so I grouped them into one.(Sex techniques reading: "Sex God" by Daniel Rose and "White Tiger Tantra" from Steve P. are great. "Superman stamina" with its bonus staff by Kenny Styles is awesome(including gf bj training)).-this is probably one that I have least experience in, mainly because of big part of it being quite esoteric. Books that give you insights into people's fantasies (I've heard Fountainhead - is a great book for these purposes) - can be very useful. So far I've found a few things about relationships:

Any healthy relationship(friendship/family/romantic relationship) needs Emotional Connection(yeah you heard right)

Here is what Emotional Connection is to me:
1)Honesty
2)Respect
3)Trust
4)Caring
5)Kindness

Any healthy ROMANTIC relationship needs to add Passion to Emotional connection:

Here is what Passion is to me:
1)Sexual desire between partners
2)Desire for each other's affection.

I've been looking into problems in LTRs for a while and once talked to a very wise man. He was a pretty famous Buddhist monk who was giving a speech at my university. He also was invited to be a relationship consultant for some UK firm but declined to pursue his work at monastery. I asked him: "As you probably know, many relationships die out because of loss of passion between partners-how can we deal with it?" he answered: "In the beginning of relationship, passion takes over our minds, and blinds us to weaknesses in other aspects of our relationship like trust and honesty, caring(emotional connection right there ). So as time goes on, and passion dies out, these these weaknesses become evident and their accumulated effect is what causes relationships to break." Although this didn't answer my question of preventing loss of passion, this answer resonated with me so much that I forgot about my initial question. This was super important to me. A good book recommended to me by Chief(thanks a lot) not so long ago is "Zen Sex: The art of making Love by Philip Toshido Sudo"-is a great book on spiritual aspect of relationship. I loved it also because it has a lot of quotes from my favorite Zen Figure Ikkyu Sojun. (so I might be a bit biased here. )

6)This is kind of a free flight zone. - Improving social intelligence, finding what works in what situations, and reading new staff and new "techniques" goes here.(Here the structural game/NLP and all the canned staff goes.)-as you may have noticed, the only time you should care about this staff is after you're done with all the previous steps. AFC Adam and Gambler are very situation specific-so they can be useful if you need help in adopting your game to specific situation. NLP can be powerful, but you'll need immense inner game to allow yourself to use it, cause done incorrectly its either useless or harmful to yourself and others.

After completed, repeat.

Couple pointers that might help.

1)Divide large goals into smaller ones-that might help a lot
2)Meditation might help.
3)Don't try to complete one stage before moving to another. Set intervals you're gonna spend on each stage(shorter the better-no more than a week...especially if you're newbie)
4)Every rule(whatever any of the authors in the readings suggested or I said or any other guy ever told you) is meant to be broken. Your rational analysis (or maybe seeking answers through meditation ) is your best bet.


This is my most honest opinion on the game.

Hope it will help you guys. I'll edit if I remember something new or find typos.

Opinions leading to constructive conversation are very welcome.

PADRID(heart)
(dutch version)

P = Passion
A = Ambition
D = Discipline
R = Respect
I = Integrity
D = Doorzettingsvermogen ( persistence )\
(heart) = Unconditional love and loving the code you live by

whatever works brah.

solid bro. great attitude!

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Even the most naturally gifted can learn to become better.

...your name... you spelled your own name wrong....

wat

*facepalm*

I'll be posting 2 types of replies here...additions/explanations of my "method"-(just mostly reference to tried working materials) and covering new/already existing-interesting ideas here.

Those will be titled TECHNIQUE and GAME. so here we go:

GAME:

Sun Tzu taught us to know ourselves, our enemies and our surroundings to win battles.

This perfectly relates to PU.

Success depends on 3 things:
1)You
2)The girl
3)Logistics

You-inner game, outer game. Your ability to express yourself and communicate your emotions/intentions/thoughts is crucial. That's what building connection is all about. Expressing your sexuality is just as crucial.

Girl-calibration, "two steps forward one step back", flexibility and simply understanding the girl(e.g. listening when she's talking(but listening doesn't mean taking everything seriously)) in front of you is just as crucial. (Building connection comes into play again)

Logistics-get them handled ASAP


Now as for step-by-step method...

To me there are 3 stages:

1)Approach (direct/indirect/ - whatever works for you or at that particular situation)
2)Emotional Connection(For MM guys-both attraction and comfort-mixing these two is possible and more effective)
3)Seduction-( kino, sexual tension-expressing sexuality. and actually "pulling the trigger")

Now once you approached here is my way of thinking about the other 2.

You don't switch from step 2 to step 3.

The best example I can think of right now is...adding milk into coffee...at first its all coffee( in this case what I call emotional connection) but milk(sexuality) slowly takes over (i.e. sexual tension builds, more compliance).

Basically...

start with...80/20 connection/sexuality and work the sexuality part up.

How long does it take? Good calibration is the answer.

It'll depend on...guess what? Yeah you're right:

You, girl and logistics.

P.S.

1)I haven't mentioned compliance building...but all you need to know is that it is VERY important. There is already ton of material on compliance so there is no point in me writing about it.

2) keep a journal. You can keep it here or make it personal. Expressive writing helps also gives you chance to analyze your actions after you cooled down and let's you rationally repair holes in your game, or at least recognize them...

3)Who wants to know how to make a girl fall in love with you?-Fractionation-A creepy name NLP guys gave to what David D calls "Taking a girl onto a roller coaster of emotions - i.e. not only concentrating on positive emotions but also negative ones (after a negative feeling everything positive feels even better-also creates a feeling of being through a lot with you in a short period of time(one of reasons why venue-shifting works)-but unlike venue shifting it does this on emotional level. That's long-term. The only downside is that she can become clingy(which can work in LTRs I guess). IMO This is unfairly overlooked aspect of the game. However there is a rule of thumb to remember:
-Always end on a positive note.

4)Energy-"being in state",-I'm not asking you to run around or be a dancing monkey-but being energetic and taking a girl to an adventure(even if its just you two imagining things you'd do together)-still counts.

5) Curiosity-about world...this is inter-related with energy to some extent. Also having something in your life that you're passionate about-is awesome for your life and PU.

I prefer giving references to other materials because authors mentioned here provide better explanation of individual topics than I ever could. (I'm not getting paid for mentioning them-although I wish I was) If you see me mentioining author or technique here-go research it, get more information about it.

Good post man i like a lot of the things you mentioned here. I think one thing I have trouble with sometimes is where you say:

"4)Energy-"being in state",-I'm not asking you to run around or be a dancing monkey-but being energetic and taking a girl to an adventure(even if its just you two imagining things you'd do together)-still counts."

It's sometimes a fine line between being outgoing and coming across as "attention-seeking" or a "tryhard" or whatever; maybe you just have to read the situation and know when to tone-down the energy or turn it up, etc. I dunno I'm pretty new here.

i love the "being in state" explanation. When you're truly enjoying yourself in a conversation, girls will always notice, and choose to talk to you when they want to have some no-bullshit fun!

being in state to me means approaching. You can be high energy or low energy, depending on your personality. There are guys who like jumping around because that's the way they are, and there are guys who like to be more laid-back. Whatever works, but don't use "I;m not in state" or "Yeah I;m enjoying myself" as an excuse not to approach.
sometimes girls will call you to join them or approach you or send a subtle signal-but still, you have to approach. Don't just sit in the corner waiting for girls to join you. Gambler talks about "forcing IOIs" or non-verbal approaching and 60 talks about building "mini rapport" before approaching through sending signals (e.g. "cheers"-gesture, just a smile or whatever) both are the same thing, but still, whether you did the non-verbal thing or not, you'll have to approach. period.

MY REVIEW OF DIFFERENT METHODS


one problem in the community is that most guys don't know what they want.

So they can't choose what method the need.

Some want quick lays, some want LTRs some want to dominate their social circles.

Whatever your goal(unless its illegal or involves sleeping with married women/women in LTRs) - I have no problem with that.

1)figure out wth you want.

2)find appropriate ,thod/coach

3)find out what you want in the girl and how to increase your chances of meeting that kind of girl + what qualities that girl has so you know what to look for.

Here are things guys usually come for to PU.

1)for quick one-night stands-I suggest you do night game about an hour and a half before club's closing time( 1-3 a.m. is usually good.) and use Gunwitch method.

2)Dominate social circle-MM has AMOG techniques, negs, building preselection. Have fun-your buddies will be impressed.

3)LTRs-this is my personal goal. That's why I tried to find a "complete" method by basically compiling all the different methods.

4)if you want to solve your insecurity problems-Watch Zan Perrion's "Way of the natural"-not much technique but you'll get rid of AA and have a nice vibe around you + you'll make ton of new friends and if you escalate well you can make a fortune

5)If you're constantly in LJBF-look up in my original post- sexualization methods are good and I believe 60yoc's stuff is more of a "complete system."

6) flakes-there isn't really any method behind this, the whole point is in coming across as a genuine guy who is actually curious in her. (again Zan Perrrion)

These are all motivations/problems i can think of at the moment.

Also don't forget that logistics play a huge role in finding the type of girl you want.

If you want a party animal go to clubs, if you want a quiet/nerdy girl go to library/bookstore basically places where types of girls you want usually hang out. Also, looks aren't in this section, if you're approaching a girl I'd assume you like her looks in the first place. We're talking about personality here.

although personality might matter less for short-term relationships than for LTRs you still need to know what you're going after...as the saying goes "If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else."

P.S. try to be honest with yourself about your goals. Its ok to want ego-validation by dominating your social circle. Also its ok to want one-night-stands.

Just make sure you make your intent clear and don't promise her things you can't deliver. You definitely will find a girl who wants the same things you do and your life will be much easier if you're honest about it.-trust me on this one.


One more thing about AA-after some time it turns into excitement, you can feel adrenaline levels rise in your blood, and as time goes on you push for harder and more exciting targets to keep the flow. You'll be enjoying AA one day-trust me.

PUA products review:

Now I'll describe my opinion of products/methods/companies by their individual names-since these ones are more of a well rounded systems.

60 years of challenge "Complete game system"-I personally love this product, because its well rounded, and more of a "complete system" with heavy emphasis on sexual aspect(but goes into enough depth in other subjects as well)

I'm not a fan of his antimanifesto and certain aspects, but overall-a very solid program.

RSD-ton of information and concepts(especially in blueprint) - Haven't seen any complete and step-by-step method, but if you're looking to refine your game with natural aspect or into getting in state-they're perfect(Flawless natural being my personal favorite among RSD products)

the art of seduction robert greene-I skimmed through it in Barnes and Noble and read couple chapters-my impression-not impressed at all. Not a comprehensive method or anything. There is only one lesson to be learnt from this book-imho-There are many ways to get laid, and your pu style/method must reflect on what kind of person you are, also you must work on your strength and as I already said, there are many ways to get into bedroom.

Now disadvantages of this book-ton of self-limiting beliefs-the one that I disliked most and made me feel disgusted was the notion of hitting on girls with insecurities, because according to Mr. Greene, you have no chance of picking up a successful, beautiful women with high self-esteem.

Vin Di Carlo's Pandora box-just as with the art of seduction, I haven't read it, just skimmed through it with a few occasional chapters that I've read. As far as I understood this program concentrates on importance of calibrating the girl(e.g. how pu depends on what kind of girl you're dealing with.) Although I personally disagree with his classifications and think his 3 magic questions were crap. The idea was good. too much unnecessary information(which chances are is plain wrong) and ego-psychology(thinking you're so freaking awesome you figured out everybody).

On the other hand, I've heard that Vin's "Attraction code" is amazing, although I'm yet to read it.


In the end the last 2 books I mentioned emphasized the simple principle I mentioned previously in this topic (the one that PU depends on you, the girl and logistics.)

P.S. if you want me to cover a specific topic-reply here or pm me.

Quick addition...


Keep approaching

Here is why this is so important.

If you feel hurt because of flakes-keep approaching
If you need help with your "inner game"-keep approaching
If you're hurt because of your one-itis-keep approaching
If you want to get better at PU-keep approaching
If you want to find the woman of your life-keep approaching
If you don't want to tun into KJ-keep approaching.

I think these reasons are more than enough to drag your ass out of the computer.

I broke this rule of mine and it ended up badly for me.