I realize this is a very touchy subject for many, but please help me look at this, its more research for a project I am doing...I finally lost mine at 23 but I just talked to a guy who is 27 and is not even sweating it...I was SOOO stressed I was not a virgin, for years...now I am just really, really curious what the norm IN THE COMMUNITY is...It would also be helpful if you replied with a specific age, if you were involved in the community prior, and what your level of game was, and is now....

Thanks!

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23, had been into the game about two years....Still where I am with my game...

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I was 19 - which is not very soon, nor very late - and yes the social pressure on virgins is enormous. It's lame but it really hurts your selfesteem.

I was 19 as well, had some opportunities before that but chickend out. Always pretty much lied about it when people used to ask me, so I kinda understand what's the fuss about......

Thing is putting your penis inside of a woman (or man if you are into that sort of thing) does not magically fix any of your problems, or misstakes you might have made it the past. It doesnt make you more of a man or any less. All it does is make you feel really awesome for the moment That's all

I lost mine when i was 16 and was a nice guy , it doesn't really matter if what age you got rid of your V-Card, i know some of my friends used to tease me back in the day because some of them already lost their virginity and bragging about it, everything is not too late, you can still make it to the 100th lay if you're still breathing on this earth.






-TheNaturalPlayboy

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I never understood why guys make such a big deal out of it. Who cares if you're a virgin?

Improve yourself and have fun with high quality women you want in your life and virginity will take care of itself when it's time.

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17 but like a month before my 18th.

The funny thing is; when you're say 15, everyone is like "you havent lost your V card yet?? wtf!" then say you're 18 and you say you lost it when you're 16 they say "ah yeah normal"

THEN

if you havent lost it when youre 18 theyre like WTF!! you get to 20 people are like "oh you lost it when you were 18? thats cool man, its not a big deal". . ."what?? you havent lost it, youre 20 for godsake!"

This dynamic goes on until you are dead. Because everybody, including women, love to get a big ego trip off it OR they think they have to think like it but deep down dont care.

I was 20. Once you get it, you will make up for it!!

Before learning to talk to girls, I was mainly shy and ran away from my opportunities. I would say in my group of friends, average age was 17.

I lost mine at the age of 20. It was a huge thing for me beforehand weighing me down. I remember genuinely thinking it would never happen and I kinda lucked out. Since then I've undergone major changes and I've been having sex regularly since then.

I was 18. First year of college. I was stressed about it all the time as I saw myself as kind of a "loser" in high school. Really though age doesn't matter. People shouldn't have to deal with this pressure. High school is so messed up these days... BTW I'm 21 now.

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I was 16. I used to think it was a big deal to start early but realy there should be no pressure on you. I agree with Mind Hacker.

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Probably because society has marked that point as the point you become a man, at-least in the states. There is no doubt its societal pressure.

I really thought people could just tell I was a virgin, there were actually times when people would joke about it around me, then again I run in really masculine athletic circles, I have/had no game and it probably shows.

The pressure is real. I remember at one time I actually thought "Maybe I will just be a virgin forever, there is no hope."

The reason I ask is, psychologically getting laid removed a lot of pressure around my daily life and game. Normal social interactions included...A weight off the shoulders....Wondering how peoples game evolved depending on when they got laid, if that makes sense. IE for those that got laid at 16, if they developed faster overall than someone like me who got laid at 23...

Maybe its just psychological and "late bloomers" are really not all that far behind.

I was hesitant to post the thread but I am glad I did, Seeing my own reflections in peoples posts like Sephy, SmoothOp, ect.

Cornishman hit it on the head, its an ego trip, but until you break the cycle you can't really see it, truely, for what it is...

Thanks folks, keep up the participation. See ya on the sarge. -_-

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30 or older .. lol ... that would be fucking brutal .. can't even imagine it.

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Lost my Vcard at 18 (ex for 4 years FML haha!) and i didnt find out about the game till i was 20, i recently turned 21, however even though ive known about the community for a little over a year now it was recently, more like three weeks ago, when i finally decided to start using all the methods and techiniques from the PUA community. thank god we broke up other wise i would have never known about the PUA comunnnity.

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22.

I was planning to go to University as a mature student, and I would be 23 when I started. I was beginning to panic about being a virgin at Uni, and I made it a goal in my life to either get a girlfriend to have sex with before going to Uni, or get laid at least once.

I done it and got a girlfriend for a bit thanks to reading David Deangelo's material and a few other Ebooks and doing all I could to implement it in my life.