Zip, i am gonna ask you a question i asked chief since i think your opinion would be brilliant Just a little re-worded.

1) What do you think is the book that most changes peoples perspective and PU ability and why?

and also
2) what do you think is the single most important of a PU to get sucess. (in regards to say inner game or outer game or social proof etc.)

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Yeah. If she's shy, it's about making her comfortable.

Approach from a non-threatening angle (90 degree angles are threatening, so I'd approach from 11 o'clock if I were you.... 11 o'clock on her is classically known in psychological space studies as the "hero's entrance" ) and I'd use non-threatening body language.

Get in with her friends. Charm the set, if she's in it. If her friends feel comfortable and entertained and hook you, she'll open like a hooker when she sees a 100 bill.

Make her laugh. Humor is the key to a shy girl's pants cough cough heart.
When you honestly don't know, and it's dangerous for you to pretend you know. Period.
I thought that was really fucking creative. Not AFC at all, good job. He got the girl, for a while, at least. Probably long enough to get a hand job.

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Okay, being a good kisser. It's about practice and patterning (not mirroring.) I mean, you go light at first, get a feel for the other person's style, meld it with your own, and WOW. There you go. More lip less tongue is always a good rule to follow. And for god's sake, switch things up a bit. Make it like a rollercoaster ride.

If girls flake, you haven't built up enough rapport with them. Maybe you entertained them for a bit, got her to say yes to a date, then later on she backs out because something doesn't feel right. That something that doesn't feel right is the lack of rapport.

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Yeah, you got sucked into their frame. My friends and I do this to EVERYONE EVERYWHERE we go. It's a control thing. Do a bit of research on frame control. You are the party, bring other people into it.

You break it by not letting it get too deep into someone else's frame. You can also call the motherfuckers out on it in a funny way. Some humorous variation of, "Look, we get that you all had waaay too much fun with whipped cream at summer camp, but let's open this up for everyone to get involved." Or fucking relate to something they are saying, pull it out, and transition into a DHV story or a game... Take charge of the focus. Pull them into your frame.

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thank you. now gimme a rep point
I think that women do have as much trouble. Why do women have bitch shields? Because losers hit on them all day. Where are the good guys? We blow them out because we're jaded. It's a vicious cycle.

We're bitches because you suck and those of you who don't suck get blown out by us and when those of you who don't suck get hurt you turn into assholes who we eventually find attractive and end up hurting us in the end and we get more jaded. There.


nothing.

jk. whatever you wear, rock it the fuck out. own it.

However, I like boxer briefs because they're easier for me to remove with my teeth.

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I think mystery's kiss gambit is cute, but it's safe. Plus, it's safe. Safe isn't sexy. I like TD's. I like just vibing and the guy going for it even better.
Yeah, did you escalate kino the entire time you're doing comfort/rapport? If you do that, you keep a sexual frame stirring where it doesn't seem incongruent to make out passionately at the end.

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We can all say that Style's book gets everyone into the community. I'd say, personally, Art of Seduction by Robert Greene has the most affect on empowering guys to feel they can actually make a difference...... and that it's not just about women.

It's so well written, not just about women, and offers historical examples of these different characters that you can connect to. Changed my life when I realized men are attracted to me because I'm a female dandy.
Inner Game. Period.

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Zip how ethically fucked up is it to give the shy insecure girls false validation to get what you want from them? For example, feeding them the shit they love to hear and reassures them that you are willing to bend your back for them when in reality you are only using it to build, lets say, stronger rapport or getting her to emotionally invest in you. I'm sure this is what brought you to say:
Is it so wrong to play "Hero" and sweep little insecure princess off her feet?

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

I'd be lying if I didn't give people what they want so I have an "in." Especially if they're really really really good looking. And have some sort of value to me.

Those things don't last though, and it's an empty experience in the end.

There is a way of being her hero and being yourself that is congruent. Pattern her so that you know what she wants to hear, and only halfway give it to her in accordance to who you are. It's even sexier than riding in on a white horse and sweeping her off her shy little feet. It's like James Dean bustin into the place on his motorcycle, stomping his cigarette out on the ground, and telling her to hop on with a smile.

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Hey zip,

I've got a mate of mine who is about 20, average looking, 6 foot 1, goes out partying maybe once/ twice a month, every time he pulls and gets laid.

Thing is he's a nerd. He reads comics etc. And he's done LARP, which is a cross between historical re-enactment/fantasy and acting. He assures me "It's muh better in the uk than in america".

He has a nerd status to that extent, yet he is still succesful with women.

He seems comfortable telling thm what he does for fun, I guess that makes him Alpha, to an extent, and possibly his nerd side brings abit of fun to him.

Is their anything else about his characteristics that gets him girls so consistently? I've asked and he says he doesn't do anything consiously like a PUA.

Since you have been in PU for as long as you have, do you think its possible you will ever get married?

Basically, with the knowledge of pickup you know now, is it possible for you to have that "one special guy" to look forward too? It seems like every time a guy would get close to you, you would assume he was running game on you, in turn pushing him away.



That is all

Masterlock

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He sounds like he has the mindset of a successful person. It's all about mindset. When you are successful (you like who you are,) you believe that you have value to the world. People are attracted to people who are valuable and not toxic about it. If you believe you have value (non toxic value, i.e. bragging, asshole, etc.) then others will believe you have value. Valuable people's time is valuable. When valuable people talk, people listen and are interested.

It's really all about IG, in my opinion. Yes, OG is rockin fun, but IG is where we make or break it.

Being comfortable and proud (not braggy) about who you are is attractive. Admitting that he loves comic books and whatever live action bla bla bla he does breaks people out of routine. Aren't nerds supposed to be shy? No, he loves comic books and this is why they kick ass and are worth HIS VALUABLE TIME. If others are lucky... they will get to own some of HIS VALUABLE TIME. See?

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Good question. I don't know about marriage because I think the term itself, "marriage," has taken on more than it can handle. There's a civil union and a spiritual/religious union. That's asking a lot. Plus, marriage was designed for people who lived until they were 30 and were worried about succession and lineage. I don't give a fuck about that.

I hate kids and I don't think I'm going to get married. I'm also in my early twenties. When I was eight, I thought boys were gross. Not so much anymore. Who knows.

Am I jaded about guys hitting on me? Does it affect my relationships? Does it make me a cold bitch who shoots down everyone? No. My knowledge-base has the capacity to make me a bitter old lady, but it has done just the opposite.

I'm more open-minded, and a bit more educated, about who is a "good guy." I'm not looking for Mr. Right. I'm not looking for Mr. Right Now. I'm looking for someone who is of value and compliments me.

I'm not an exclusive being. I like my freedom, so who knows what the future has in store.

Alls I know right now is I gots a man who has me sat-is-fied. Are we exclusive? No. Am I banging lots of guys? No. I'm free to live my own live and share it with another. That's all I want right now.

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Thank-you, Zip!

I understand that was a bit of a personal question, its just that I've (and i prob am not alone on this) been worried that, since PU is becoming more mainstream, there may be girls that are like i described, and i just wanted to see you opinion. Input appreciated!

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Thanks again zip. But, you again lead me to ask another question. Creating rapport. I'm not totally sure i know what that means in the context of pick up. Does it just mean that we're sharing good experiences, and conversation is easy, or is there something else to it? and what exactly do most women like to find rapport in? like interests like sports and movies and shit, or do you have to dig a little deeper? My next question is can you show/tell me a natural DHV thing so i can better understand it? Tricky concept it seems. It's always alluded to and rarely defined. And don't be afraid to say fuck off and look it up, lawlz. i may be a noob, but i'm not fragile : )