Well, one's belief, views, or preferences towards their physical and mental pleasures aren't really well-compared to believing the Earth is flat and politicians telling the truth. They are two completely different areas of thought, one is individual preference (which will stand true to that person, no matter how much you argue against it) while the other is more like a piece of knowledge that can be factually or analytically proven.

The fact of the matter is this, I've been with both types of women. Those who are were aroused by strictly physical pleasures, and others who were completely the opposite and were more aroused by deep conversation, soul gazing, and other more spiritual methods.

That's all the proof I need to come to the conclusion that varying people use different methods to bring about pleasurable experiences in their lives.

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I thought you told me you read his books? If you did, you'd realize those are two spots that are last on the list of places to stimulate.

I don't know why I didn't say it this way sooner, but it just suddenly came to me; if a female's sexuality was 100% mental, then there would be no way for her to get off by physical stimulation. Sure, you CAN get a woman off using just words and all that stuff, I don't question that, but the fact that you can get her off using your fingers/mouth/dick, means that physical stimulis has effect, thus making it not 100%, but only possible to achieve results using 100% mental means.

BTW, the arrogance is starting to bother me Saq and I typically like what you have to say.

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I'll comment on this too as well. The problem you and others have up here is underestimating the power of the mind. In fact, it happens to be the most dangerous weapon on the planet. What devised guns? The atomic bomb? A person's mind did.


Have you guys ever seen the studies they do when they give placebo pills to some people and tell them it's medication? They then get better? Why is that? It's because they mentally believe that they were given medication to help them.

Same thing with a woman. The orgasm he gives them comes via fantasy. FANTASY is a mental aspect that we project to evoke good feelings. Yes, we can believe in this fantasy to a point were it's real. I think you see where I'm going with this. Bottom line is, you get a person to believe in a idea, and anything is possible. Look no further than people like David Koresh, Charles Manson, Jim Jones........people who used mental manipulation to lead others to insane acts.

1) I'm cocky. Deal with it. You guys are mad I'm killing your arguments. I'm surprised Zip isn't in here destroying you. In fact, she has pretty much agreed with what is said here. You just chose to ignore it.

2) What is said is that a woman can have a orgasm without any touching. However, you can touch a woman all you want and if her mind isn't in it, she isn't going to cum. If what you say is true.....go to a woman who's in a coma, and try giving her a orgasm. Let me know how that works out for you.

Just for the record, I wasn't the one that came in saying that I misinterpreted somebody's book, and that the author in NO WAY said female sexuality was 100% mental. Even after I proved you wrong, you still switched it to make it like I said "orgasm" instead of "sexuality." If you are going to call somebody out on something, at least be right or have facts to prove it.


It's funny that you came in proclaiming to be David Shade's biggest fan, yet I'm the one that believes his material and you don't.

Is anything positive, or at least...semi-helpful coming out of this?

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Yes.

The diagram with the spots to hit is G-money. (pun intended)

Well then, I'd like to thank you for the 6th grade Sex Ed lesson you just schooled us all in....

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Your 6th grade Sex Ed class taught you how to make women cum by hitting their Deep Spots? Glad to know. Which school did you go to, so I can send my future kids there. It's apparent you haven't read any of Shade's work or you wouldn't have even made such a *sweet* comment.

edited by Starbuck.

Hey, let's settle down guys.

No need to start the name calling, or have ill feelings, etc..

Everybody is free to believe what they like. We are all friends and fellow PUA's, remember?

It's a great topic.

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Such hostility...
Me as well.

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This is NO offense against you Starbuck, bud, just had to make these comments:
I will have to agree with Zip here, and I also won't go into details.
Me. I love giving women orgasms. The more orgasms the merrier. The bigger the orgasms, the merrier.

You wont go into details?

Ok Tripp, we're all ears.

I for one would appreciate hearing about your experience and knowledge of female orgasms absent any physical stimulation.

I mean if you or anybody else here is going to make a statement claiming some sort of supernatural sexual powers with women, etc.. I would expect at least some demonstration, evidence, or at least a description of how you achieve such an extraordinary feat, etc..

Other than just repeating verbatim something you read in a book someplace, or declaring it an inside joke between you and the female gender only.

This has the appearance of being disingenuous at best.

I mean, I can make women levitate, while making them have full body orgasms in their big toe just by looking at them. But I wont go into details (this is clearly satire, but I expect to get more than a few pm's asking me how to do this).

And if anybody could in fact repeatably do such a thing, they wouldn't be wasting their time with us here or selling scientifically unsubstantiated books on the internet. They would have a show in Las Vegas or something and a big house in Malibu, when they weren't doing interviews on international TV.

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Would a national Cancer organization telling you this suffice? Here goes.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MIT/conte ... tearea=MIT
This comes via the American Cancer Society people. I guess you think they are full of it and put out false information too. Women having orgasms via vivid fantasy and dreaming. Go figure.