If I told you that I can pull consecutive ONS in matter of minutes with 0 rapport , would you believe me ?

All of you think in terms of "game".

There are ways to increase efficiency (after 3 am , in the club ).

YOU DO NOT NEED RAPPORT WITH THIS TYPE OF WOMEN.

What I am using is very advanced and it's not just what I say , how I say , how do I project or my image , it's all of them in one.

Just like there is an alphabet for the words we use , there are reoccurring patterns to human responses.

Ex :

Me : " I don't like to beat around the bush so I am going to be honest and open with you , you are very sexy and I want to exchange orgasms with you." ( dominant , powerful , honest and hold an intense eye contact )

THERE ARE ONLY 2 POSSIBLE RESPONSES : YES/NO

A EMOTIONLESS NO IS A NO.

YES HAS THREE VARIATIONS :

1. SHIT TEST
2. SHE GETS SHY or WEAK TALK
3. SHE JUST SAYS , YES LET'S GO

SHIT TEST : " I HAVE A BOYFRIEND' , ' WHY WOULD I SLEEP WITH YOU ?" BUT DOES NOT LEAVE ME OR BREAKS ESCALATION

TO GET PAST THAT YOUR REPLY SHOULD BE :

"YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT , BUT I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A MAN" and just leave for a few minutes.

9 out of 10 when you approach her again she will act like she is in love with you. I am doing this consistently on 9 and 10.


SHE GETS SHY

"I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE , BUT I CAME TO YOU AND DID MY JOB AS A MAN .. I'LL LEAVE YOU FOR 5 MINUTES TO RECOVER" and just leave for a few minutes.

When you approach her again you don't even have to get rapport or be sweet or playful , you can actually talk to her about everything.

YOU CAN MAKE BOLD STATEMENTS AND CREATE SHOCK , BUT YOU LEAVE AFTER THE SHOCK ON A HIGH NOTE ( THE PURPOSE OF THE TAKEAWAY) SHE WILL GRADUALLY REGAIN COMPOSURE AND HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT SHE LIKES TO GIVE HEAD OR EVEN GET FROM HER A THREESOME THAT SAME NIGHT.

IT'S A MINDFUCK , BUT THERE IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL FLOW IN EVERYTHING.

AND YES I AM THAT GOOD.

If I told you that I can pull consecutive ONS in matter of minutes with 0 rapport , would you believe me ?

All of you think in terms of "game".

There are ways to increase efficiency (after 3 am , in the club ).

YOU DO NOT NEED RAPPORT WITH THIS TYPE OF WOMEN.

What I am using is very advanced and it's not just what I say , how I say , how do I project or my image , it's all of them in one.

Just like there is an alphabet for the words we use , there are reoccurring patterns to human responses.

Ex :

Me : " I don't like to beat around the bush so I am going to be honest and open with you , you are very sexy and I want to exchange orgasms with you." ( dominant , powerful , honest and hold an intense eye contact )

THERE ARE ONLY 2 POSSIBLE RESPONSES : YES/NO

A EMOTIONLESS NO IS A NO.

YES HAS THREE VARIATIONS :

1. SHIT TEST
2. SHE GETS SHY or WEAK TALK
3. SHE JUST SAYS , YES LET'S GO

SHIT TEST : " I HAVE A BOYFRIEND' , ' WHY WOULD I SLEEP WITH YOU ?" BUT DOES NOT LEAVE ME OR BREAKS ESCALATION

TO GET PAST THAT YOUR REPLY SHOULD BE :

"YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT , BUT I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A MAN" and just leave for a few minutes.

9 out of 10 when you approach her again she will act like she is in love with you. I am doing this consistently on 9 and 10.


SHE GETS SHY

"I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE , BUT I CAME TO YOU AND DID MY JOB AS A MAN .. I'LL LEAVE YOU FOR 5 MINUTES TO RECOVER" and just leave for a few minutes.

When you approach her again you don't even have to get rapport or be sweet or playful , you can actually talk to her about everything.

YOU CAN MAKE BOLD STATEMENTS AND CREATE SHOCK , BUT YOU LEAVE AFTER THE SHOCK ON A HIGH NOTE ( THE PURPOSE OF THE TAKEAWAY) SHE WILL GRADUALLY REGAIN COMPOSURE AND HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT SHE LIKES TO GIVE HEAD OR EVEN GET FROM HER A THREESOME THAT SAME NIGHT.

IT'S A MINDFUCK , BUT THERE IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL FLOW IN EVERYTHING.

AND YES I AM THAT GOOD.

... But the best IMO is how sexaddict does it, in a second meeting,I am not a big fan of ons..

Whaaaaaaaat? I thought you're only into dancefloor -> pull home game, no?? is it dancefloor to number?

My question is this - to go out at 12-1 am and then wait out until 3 am, get numbers, etc, or just go out at 2:50 and do only shock and awe? I've been out 25 days from the last 30, this shit takes a lot of energy and time

Whaaaaaaaat? I thought you're only into dancefloor -> pull home game, no?? is it dancefloor to number?

My question is this - to go out at 12-1 am and then wait out until 3 am, get numbers, etc, or just go out at 2:50 and do only shock and awe? I've been out 25 days from the last 30, this shit takes a lot of energy and time

Dude from my experience the later you go out, the less the quality of women. Sure they may be more opt to having sex but are they the ideal women you want to have sex with? I for one prefer to play my game earlier, if all else fails. I will then work on the leftover bar fly's that are still there at 3 am. There is no rule that say's you can't pull an ONS at 12 o'clock. I am not so big on the ONS either, as most of the ones I have pulled, were not as hot as the ones I picked up and worked on the second encounter. ( in my experience and in general terms) Sure you can always get lucky and score the 9/10 for an ONS but it is very suspect if a gorgeous woman that is only looking for sex is still at a bar at 3 am.

If I were you I would stick to going out a little earlier, and make your night fun, it doesn't have to seem like work. Have fun with it. I will often make some challenges. Like trying to pick up a girl while using a fake russian accent. Then come clean once she is engaged and enjoying my company. I have done all kinds of crazy shit. When you're having fun, it doesn't seem like much time or energy has been spent.

My question is this - to go out at 12-1 am and then wait out until 3 am, get numbers, etc, or just go out at 2:50 and do only shock and awe? I've been out 25 days from the last 30, this shit takes a lot of energy and time

Dude from my experience the later you go out, the less the quality of women.

I am not so big on the ONS either, as most of the ones I have pulled, were not as hot as the ones I picked up and worked on the second encounter. ( in my experience and in general terms) Sure you can always get lucky and score the 9/10 for an ONS but it is very suspect if a gorgeous woman that is only looking for sex is still at a bar at 3 am.

... But the best IMO is how sexaddict does it, in a second meeting,I am not a big fan of ons..

nah! dancefloor yes! make out and bjs yes... pull home game? no i live with my gf, but i did ons for years, most times is better second encounter(my biggest reason hygiene and fatigue, and the girl may feel like a slut and get buyers remorse if you want multiples)....

no dude, phagan the point is not to get stuck with a girl the whole night, while you can game other girls, but after 3 am most girls are taken and there is minimal supply plus you already game other girls...

OK guys, look - if ONS is not your thing then you are both not going via the easiest route which is DAY GAME. I did just three day game sets this past two weeks - two of the three converted into numbers and those two numbers converted into lays. In the streets you meet the HOTTEST girls, you can do it anytime and anywhere, it doesn't take your nights, you can do 10 sets in 2 hours in a mall or wherever...

@SA911 - the problem with doing it early is that many girls want to dance for a couple of hours and "have fun with their friends" and only later be pulled out. They also get drunk in the process. Yea, it's not logical... if I wanted to get layed, I wouldn't wait to 3 AM either... but we're talking girls here - there's no logic but most guys agree on this.

Dude, I pull day game all the time. My engine is always running. I pull game wherever and whenever....I even once picked up a nurse while at a hospital in extreme pain. She laughed at me cuz I could barely talk( from pain) yet I was trying to mack her. I simply said, her beauty was more overwhelming then my pain and I would regret not trying. LOL.

I really don't see what the big draw for ONS is anyways. If you are a successful player you can get laid every night just by creating a cycle. ONS are ok if you see it as a challenge, but once you had a lot of them. They really aren't that great. There is something to be said about seducing a womens mind first.

Dude, I pull day game all the time. My engine is always running. I pull game wherever and whenever....I even once picked up a nurse while at a hospital in extreme pain. She laughed at me cuz I could barely talk( from pain) yet I was trying to mack her. I simply said, her beauty was more overwhelming then my pain and I would regret not trying. LOL.

I really don't see what the big draw for ONS is anyways. If you are a successful player you can get laid every night just by creating a cycle. ONS are ok if you see it as a challenge, but once you had a lot of them. They really aren't that great. There is something to be said about seducing a womens mind first.

Haha, that's great. My personal specialty is hotel receptionists

If I would go by pure logic - I'd probably do only day game. But as you say - ONS is a challenge, that's where the fun comes from. Also - I'd like to have the skill to be able to pull any place I travel to. Day game to day 2 is more suited to when you're settled some place.

Dude you could not be more wrong. I envy you and your present lifestyle. Whenever I have traveled is when i have done my best game. You can create whatever persona you like. You can be whoever you want to be. They already know you are not going to be around for long, so if they show interest in you. sex is implied. Are you kidding me? You are traveling all throughout Europe and the world, experiencing women of every culture and traditions. Your present lifestyle is Idea for becoming a true Pick Up Artist. If I were you my next homework project would be learning some key pick up phrases and compliments in every possible european language you can. Dude! make it fun! do some crazy shit, you only live once. I am soooo jealous of you bro.

oh, and there is "hostel game" too, but that's a whole different story done that too.... haha

Hahaha, no way! i do that here too. In toronto, haven;t done it in a while but its great, especially if you are the local. You meet them at the hostel make friends, take them show them a great time. They're on vacation and have the tourist mentality( get fucked! nobody will know I am secretly a dirty dirty girl ( lol) And the best thing about is, there is a new batch of them every week or so.