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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:14 pm 
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Hi Adam,

I'm about to record my own science dvd lecture series and would like your advice regarding shooting dvds.

I've always admired the audiovisual production side of your presentations (especially the recent video on puatraining) and was wondering could you give me some tips in this area.

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Hey Adam,

It's been a few months since I contacted you. My game has improved pretty considerably and I've found my own style. And my new weapon iiss (drumroll please) soocial callibratioon!! Yep, these days I almost completely rely on my social calibration to swept the girls off their feet. After doing a bunch of sets throughout the year, the principles of attraction by Adam Lyons, triad model of Love Systems, etc etc has became a part of me. And the best thing about them is that, it suits my personality and convey it to people in the right way. Do I deserve a compliment and reward??? Just answer my questions please: :)

1. After a while on the game, I'm still having difficulties on building a massive social circle and create abundance. When I talk to the girl, like I told you before, I was a little bit of a natural and what I say is mostly full of frame control, qualification, and I can kino endlessly. If I meet the girl that I really want to get (say at 9) I can pump it even bit higher. I'm not that good, but sometimes I find that the girls that I just want to be friends with fall in love with me, and things will be hard when I ask her to hang out with me and bring her other hot friends. How'd you avoid this trap, man? I heard something about qualify yourself as a man with whom she can date, then disqualify yourself by saying that you're going to introduce her to your male friend, who might have the potential quality to be right man for her. What do you think about this? I don't really have a lot of QUALITY male friends that are single, the quality ones are usually the ones who has a girlfriend already. And how if the girl is an ugly girl, instead of pretty hot ones that my friends would like to go out on a date with? How do I add value to the UGs life?

2. Still about the social circle building, how'd you build a social circle that have a lot of high value female and male that I can hang out with? I they are so high value (successful with women, rich, having an interesting lifestyle, etc) I almost have nothing to offer, because they already have it all! How can I add value to their life? In some cases, these people actually only need a good listener that has no agenda than genuine friendliness, but how to deal with the ones that also asks for some kind of value in their life?

3. Daygame session! What do you think about big group approach and mixed sets on the daytime? If it's a filtered venue or I'm the one who has social proof (e.g my own school, party, venue where I have some friends) I do approach the mixed sets and have pretty big of a chance to get one of the hotties, but how do you deal with a "completely out of the blue" mixed sets, like the one who you see walking on the street?

4. Fashion time! You mentioned about using moisturizer to keep your skin fresh and healthy,and that many people mistaken your age as 23!! Do you use moisturizer on your face too or it's just your body skin? If you also use a face moisturizer, can I ask for a recommendation of a brand??

5. Specific sticking point question: how do you deal with a player? The story with this girl was, I met her at a party of my close friend's, I got her interest (a massive ones, if only it was quieter and had the game of mine at that time, I'm pretty sure I can k-close her). She was pretty easy to attract, friendly and it made me cocky so that I didn't bother to continue with building comfort further, which proven to be very fatal for me. For the next few weeks, I've gone through a lot of follow up game via text, Facebook and stuff, but it failed. Later, I was tired of dealing with her and decided to move on. To my surprise, last 2 weeks,she greeted me on MSN and it was game on. using stealth attraction, I loosely set up a date, but we can't do it until the next 2 month, she wants to hang out but she can't.

So basically, I'm doing a lot of phone and text game with her. She never reply to my text, but she always pick up my calls. One time, she picked my phone, chit chat for a while, but she said that her battery's running out and asked me to switch to MSN. I chit chat with her for a while, but seems like phone and text is her specialty. I didn't get much and I bailed after some conversation dry out.

She's a player and pretty good at text game. But when I call her, she's friendly and open, but she still has her game and just reply briefly to my comfort questions.
If I use too much push/pull or teasing, she'd be bored. What I did was put her on small qualification statements, like I complimented her on her make up, and said that not every girl could do that, then I ask her if she's learning it from her mom or by herself. She said it's for herself and I connect by saying it's important for a girl to be able to do their own make up. That's the only point where I got a pretty much info about her.

Now, I don't have that much time and money to buy credit to call her every few days, so, do u think it's a good idea to revert back to text game, or just call her every weekend (remember that we have set up a day2 plan few months later). What do you think I should do with this girl? I see a pretty good LTR or MLTR potential here.

Meanwhile, I'll meet several other girls.

Thanks a LLLLLOOOOTT, pal

God bless,
Steven ;)

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What up Adam.

Glad to see your answering questions. I started reading your stuff once I found out it was based heavily on psychological studies.

Can you explain "frame control" to me. I don't fully understand it (would be awesome if you could give examples for each type of frame). Thanks man.


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Hey Adam, thanks for the advice on conversation. I've been trying my best to improve and I'm finding it really hard, but I'm making small improvements.

I've been out tonight and yet again I've come home disappointed in myself. I didn't make any approaches. Also, I went out with girls, who all got hit on, and ended up ditching me for the guys that hit on them. I tried going out with girls as you said for the pre-selection. Obviously pointless without having the confidence to approach. This is really starting to frustrate me and bother me. I struggle to keep a conversation going still, which ends up with the girls I'm with ditching me for just other guys, and ends up with me not making any approaches. I've studied loads of material, yet I can't bring myself to put it into practice.

I've improved a lot from when I first started learning this stuff, I mean before this I couldn't talk to anyone, not even any of my family, I couldn't get on a bus without somebody else with me or I would shit myself about fucking up when I told the driver where I wanted to go, I couldn't talk on the phone - I couldn't talk to anybody. It was fucking ridiculous.

So I'm quite confused how to go about putting what I've learned into practice, I wanna sort this out. What would you recommend I do? What steps should I take? I was thinking maybe I could explain to a girl friend I go out with what my problem is, and how I'm meaning to fix it, and tell her all about this stuff rather than trying to hide it. How do I do that without coming across as a weirdo?

I'm sorry if there's too much writing here. I really need help, it's very frustrating. I think you're awesome for helping us all out on here answering these questions. Thanks a lot mate.


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Hi Adam,

Before asking my question I just want to thank you for being so generous with the amount of specific articulate tips and advice you have available on the internet. And the fact that you actually take the time to answer questions is incredible. Thank you. The videos and literature of yours that I have found one the internet has truly brought my game to another level. I'm constantly meeting cool new girls using your advice.

I'm 22 years old, above average looking and fairly natural. I am capable of picking-up up rather attractive girls from opening to f-closing. Although for the most part I'm just enjoy how my education of pick-up artistry (if it can be called that) has brought so many fun attractive people into my life. But I'm trying to achieve the next level: attracting 10's. I've used the women I've met to experiment with what you call "meta-game", which in many respects has served me very well. By befriending several sets of girls in a club or bringing some girls with me to the club I find gorgeous out-of-my-league type girls that i approach are extremly receptive.

However I have experience a glitch in the extreme social proof method: the average looking girls that I am befriending to build social value become attracted to me. Ofcoarse this doesn't seem like a problem, but I find they often become clinging and can (and have) ruined the set with the target, because they are jealous. I mean if you go to a club with a posse of 100+ women surely a handful of them are going to be pining for you and may be difficult to get rid of when it comes time for you to pick-up a different girl. I was wondering if you have experienced this problem and how you remedy it. Do you build relationship with girls in a way that suggests you just want to be friends (perhaps by avoiding kino escalation) to build your entourage? or is it possible to turn a past target, with whom you have sexual escalated, into you into a wingwoman to attract somebody else (perhaps more attractive/ higher social value) without them being clingy? How to handle situations in which the girls in your posse get clingy and try to distract or blow you out of target sets?

Any response would be well appreciated. I'm sure Im not the only up-and-comer experimenting with extreme social proof who is running into this problem.

Thank you for reading this Adam, congratulations on being the number one pua, and a bigger congratulations on your marriage.


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Adam! I know I shouldn't concentrate on one girl but everytime I'm home from school she's always around. Anyway she's been with a lot of guys and idk if she sees me as a potential. We've always had a cocky fun attitude with some flirting in there but I now I'm interesting in getting sexual next time. She texts me out of nowhere saying she misses me and we should hang but when we hang it's just normal hanging. When I try to advance she just laughs and says I'm funny. So I think she just likes the attention. Idk. What do you suggest I do to attract her and show her a good time? ;)

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Hey Adam,
Where is a good place to buy gifts for a 7 year old?


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Hey Adam,
Just want to say a Big thanks for answering my post :)

1) It has really helped me. But I am confused? You see, you said not to Act like a "Player" > I quote you:
"it causes way more problems to the guys game. The best vibe is honest, sincere and trusting. As long as you're not beta while doing so you will be in a far better position than the “player” guy as the girls you're around won't be worried about their reputations being damaged as a result of being with you and they wont be afraid that they could be just another number to a collection of female conquests. Trust me, you do not want to be known as a player in your social life let alone your professional one."

Now, I see these younger guys > let's say on facebook ACTING like Badboys (players) - their general behavior is more unpredictable and dangerous..BUT they seem to get alot of girls after them. Now, I’m an intelligent guy (and a nice guy) but I like to experiment with trying to improve my game > so I have tried the Badboy style.

Won't I get FEWER girls from just acting normal? I mean there will be no dangerous/unpredictable/mysterious Vibe that PLAYER/Bad boy guys give off that makes them a real challenge to girls so gets girls fighting over them?

2) I am trying to go back to basics (like you did) and REALLY understand Attraction. I would be REALLY Grateful if you could break this down for me!! :)

I have read the MMethod so have always found Comfort to mean > the "Next" step > after busting on her and getting her attracted.
(i.e Attract - Build Comfort - Seduce)

To me, your formula looks different? Are you Assuming attraction by going straight in with Comfort?

Your attraction formula is: (C-R)+Q+S = A
Where: C = Comfort, R = Rapport, Q = Qualification, S = Sexual Escalation, A = Attraction

BTW on one of your videos, Mehow said your formula was "Rapport-Rapport"..
so would it be ok (correct) to translate/rewrite it to this?
(R-R)+Q+S = A

Or even this?:
(R-R)+C+S = A (Where C = comfort (and this includes qualification)

* And with your formula: + sexual escalation = kino escalation that goes throughout right?

This PU guy tried to answer my query with this response (BUT I AM CERTAIN this answer is NOT Correct in its entirety> or is it?):

"Afc Adam Lyons formaula is a watered down version of the first 3 steps (the attraction phase)of MM
* Comfort (social comfort is achieved by reaching the social hook point) = A1
* - Rapport (negging) = some of A2... See more
* + Qualification = A3
* + sexual escalation = kino escalation that goes throughout.
This fomula is only the beginning.
No, it would not be correct to write it that way because that starts off as an AFC and then takes away some AFC-ness, just to go into comfort? Thats a fast track to the friend zone.
Start as a alpha, end as an alpha - never be beta. never."


I would GREATLY Appreciate your response to this (even comparing your formula to the MMethod so my mind can get some rest! lol)

Thanks :)


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(sorry > continued from previous post..)

And how is: (C-R)+Q+S = A ON THE TIMELINE?

- e.g is it:
1st Comfort....then if you need to takeaway Rapport do it (e.g if she is IOIing you there is no need to takeway Rapport)......then move to Qualification? etc...

(and for the Sexual esculation - this is the only one not sequential > e.g start this at the very beginning (e.g shaking hands > Kino?)?

Thanks!! :)


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Hey Playboy I wondered the same thing then I took his bootcamp mabe this link will help until Adam gets a chance to answer more completely.
http://www.puaratings.com/AFCAdamLyons/ ... nsBootcamp[/url]

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http://www.puaratings.com/AFCAdamLyons/ ... nsBootcamp

sry the link was messed up

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hey man what's up....;) i hope u doing great. look man i want u 2 help me with something so i'm going 2 make this quick ,i met a girl and we hang out 4 a couple off times and wee hit it off ,then she went 4 traveling around the world and touring ,so now i see her only on facebook and then she told me that she likes me and i am not like any guy she knew before and stuff like that and seriously i like her 2 she's beautiful girl and funy 2 soo why not, so i want 2 ask u how i can move foreword and take the next step or what can i do with her and let's not 4get that i only see her on facebook so i hope u help ur man caz i know the pickup stuff but don't know what 2 do next;)


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Dear Bonita21

Glad you like the advice, I'm enjoying doing it, and it's alot easier than trawling through the forum for posts. (and less time consuming)

Hahah ok you know who's really good at this? Amanda.

he techniques here are sick, and she's never told anyone but me.
The key here as far as I remember, is to get him to emotionally invest. Get him to shack over, flirt get sexual...but then have a line he can't cross.

I.e. he can sleep over but only let him touch you. ;o)

This will get him investing like you won't believe. Then you want to get him to talk about his past as he lies next to you. If you can open him up when it's just the two of you alone and you don't sexually invest in him, you have NO IDEA what this will do to him.

Though this is a very dark and naughty trick and should only be done if you really really do like the guy.

Hope this helps.

Let me know if you need more advice on this one, as it's part of the girl stuff I've been putting together for a while now.

AFC Adam,
Hi Adam, above is an advise from you with respect to a question on the 'page 3' of your thread. SO my question is does the above work on girls too? There is a myth that I wanted your take on that if you want a girl as your girlfriend then you should have sex with her first; without sex its AFC to want a girl as your girlfriend.

Also, does it work if she is the pursuer and you the pursuit or both or vise-versa? I want to get myself to a stage where a woman is craving, really really wanting me while I too invest in her for a LTR.


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Hi Adam,

2 days ago the girl I'm interested in asked me to go eat something with her. Her friend told me that "my target" always talks about me, thinks I'm funny, etc... so I took the invitation. However, when I arrived at the restaurant yesterday, she wasn't alone... She was accompanied by 4 friends (all female). This was quite a shock for me, obviously. It didn't take long before I did't knew what to say anymore and the 5 girls talked and talked and talked... I don't think I made a pretty good impression that night, so my question is: Can I still set things straight and get the girl or is it a total loss ?

Thanks,
Charlie89


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Hey Adam. :)

What would be the best advice for gaining goup attention without being an attention seeking "look at me" monkey?

Thanks a bunch.


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