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You're still talking about men as providers, not men as casual fucks.
Quote my exact sentence(s) that leads you to believe ^this . . . because that is not what I am "talking about" at all.
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You sound like you don't like the idea that a lowly normal guy like me can get hot wealthy women. You are making the mistake of being a snob. You sound like you categorise women based on their socio-economic status. I've learned something new about myself from every girl I've ever dated, some were on welfare, some wealthier than me like my current GF.
You're probably not 17 years old. Do your best to refrain from using "like" as an excuse for vagueness. And this is a pu forum, not a cock block forum; take your own advice and have some pride. Any how, I explained the 2 reasons to be progressive and productive. I explained that the skill sets for acquiring wealth are generally attractive qualities. Secondly, I don't dictate socio-economic rules, I follow them. I don't inquire about other people's finances as much as I do not like to publicize mine. It only comes down to observable life style / living standards.
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Your Rolex example
Somebody copy/paste a post where I mention "Rolex" please. Unless I was drunk, I am certain that this is not my thing. Snobby jeweler friends beat it into my long ago that Rolex were the official watches of guidos in shopping malls and it's cheesy, but I've never been able to shake this image out of my head.
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And can we please have a discussion without you bringing up "liars"?
This is like having a monkey forced onto your dinner table and then being asked to ignore it as it shits all over your friend's dinner plate. If you want to discuss further, pm me or start up another thread. This thread has become a shit hole.
*One note... there seems to be confusion between mindset - ability - tasks - results. If "thinking" this way or that way achieved results, everybody would be a millionaire who dates 10's. So no, it's NOT all "mindset" or "attitude". If you think you're a millionaire and you go to the bank and tell them, "I am a millionaire," will they offer you a million dollar credit? But what if you "think" success and follow through by increasing your abilities and practice daily tasks that help build up a business, a market, figure out your niche, gain some sales. . . at this point, you are STILL not a millionaire but if you go to the bank or investor(s) will they think you are worth more than you have? Possibly be so. It's about the ability, not the resulting $$.