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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:18 pm 
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Hi Adam!

I'm kinda stuck on a point in my game where I wanna get girls to qualify to me and not the opposit direction.. I know pre-selection is a good way of making other girls qualify, but I'm looking for something more... What do you say uhm.. defined perhaps. I was at the UNG seminar in London in May and I talked to your old roommate, I honestly can't remember his name right now, but I was blown away from what he had to say. And I wanna learn the part of game where girls jumps through loops to qualify.

Is it out there, like on an e-book or youtube for example? If not, can you give me some advice? :)

All the best,

Chris
Heya Chris (ChrizD)

I just wrote a reply to someone else who was having trouble with Qualification so I'm going to copy and paste, I've also written a lot on the subject throughout this thread so have a look at my earlier writings if all else fails just post here again and let me know if you need any more specifics ;0)

Qualification is simple when you understand it. People only qualify themselves to high status people (this is why qualification is so powerful as it assumes the higher position) but the best part is that you don't have to be high status to use it. All you need to do is be liked (Comfort) and have broken the ice enough to get the banter going (Break Rapport) so that they feel comfortable talking about their personal lives with you.

Another thing is don't mistake Qualification as a job interview type thing, you keep the same energy and dynamic all throughout the interaction, it doesn't need to get all serious when you think you're going to start qualifying.

Start of small and gradually build up to larger questions. If you start too big she wont want to answer. If at any point she doesn't want to answer go back to comfort and break rapport briefly and then start qualification again, only this time starting off with smaller qualifiers.

Reward her each time she jumps through a hoop with kino (“omg, that's awesome” quick hug) as the hoops get bigger so does the kino you reward her with.

Hope this helps,
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:35 pm 
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Hi Adam,
All the best for the New Year!! :)
Now, I have been gaming for about 3 years after reading The Game.

I can say I have a good detection system (or “Radar”) of what I believe girls think is attractive in a room. I work in an office environment and nearly every day I try and improve my natural game and try out new techniques.

So, these are my questions:
1) With my “Radar” I find there is a guy in my office with a VERY DEEP NATURAL BARATONE VOICE that booms across the room. In my mind it is like JUST THAT ELEMENT Makes him Alpha above all other guys and makes him attractive to all women EFFORTLESSLY and subcommunicating Dominance etc above all other guys. However, top PUAS such as Neil Strauss, Mystery and Gambler etc do NOT USE OR DEVELOP very very deep voices. WHY?

2) Would it be weird to start trying to Naturally Kino alot diff girls in the office/or kichen at work?

3) I was thinking to try and be MORE Natural and COMFORTABLE around women at work/in office/kitchen etc, to start using terms regularly such as Babe or Babygal. I was thinking this might create a nice vibe (if done in joky/funny or natural way) and also DEMONSTRATE Preselection as I am calling many diff girls babe like their mine. What do you think on this?
Plus, I mean from your experience do a lot girls like it if you give off that “Player” joky vibe with them (as long as ur not overthly sexual) or is it best to come across just honest/sincere and normal with each one?


Thanks and all the best!
Heya Playboy_Gen X,

Happy new year to you too buddy!

Well mate, the top guys have actually worked on almost every aspect of how their bodies and subcommunications come across and I'm sure they have worked on their voices and speech also. A powerfully deep baritone voice is all well and good if you have it but I think it's actually impossible to change the natural pitch of your voice (I'm no voice expert, please correct me if I'm wrong) and even if it was possible the time, energy and effort it must take to do such a thing is probably tremendous.

Quite simply, it's not needed; as long as you speak slowly and clearly in whatever your natural voice is it's enough. As with the tone of your voice, some men raise it when talking to attractive girls because they're nervous and end up supplicating to them. That's when we tell them to lower their tone, but when they do all their doing is bringing it down to where they normally talk. I don't think the body can comfortably go lower than where the normal level for the individual is.

Kino in the work place should be light and non sexual, make sure it doesn't look like your trying to do it as that will be disastrous and will lead to HUGE complications for you. If you don't think you can do this in a way that will definitely be well received then I strongly recommend not doing it and instead practice kino outside of your work environment. As with all stages of early kino make sure it's light and fast, do not linger, do not look at where you are aiming to touch and do not go for personal areas (belly, inner thighs, bums) Focus on light, quick touches to the arms, shoulders and hands.

Contrary to popular belief one of the worse vibes a guy can give off is a player vibe, while it may on some level stroke the guys ego (Yeah I'm a player!) it causes way more problems to the guys game. The best vibe is honest, sincere and trusting. As long as you're not beta while doing so you will be in a far better position than the “player” guy as the girls you're around won't be worried about their reputations being damaged as a result of being with you and they wont be afraid that they could be just another number to a collection of female conquests. Trust me, you do not want to be known as a player in your social life let alone your professional one.

As far as nicknames go I would refrain from using them in the workplace if you do not have a close friendship/relationship with the girl(s) in question, but if you are, then be sure to have a justification for it and keep it individual to the person, also make sure that they like it what you come up with and it adds value to their perception of themselves especially as you'll be using it in her professional environment. Do not use typical nicknames like babe, babygirl, sweetcheeks as they are incredibly impersonal, have sleezebag connotations and you run the risk of it being harassment to her.

One final warning, just in case you missed it, I strongly advice against running game at work, with risk far outweighs the gain. Do not practice in your workplace especially if you aren't clear on how to go about things. With game the only way you'll learn is by making mistakes, but making mistakes in the workplace can really mess up your position there and could even cost you your job. Instead go out sarging and practice game in places and on people that won't matter if you get the worst reaction possible as you can simply move away. Be very careful mate.

Hope this helps,
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:39 pm 
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I've been talking to this girl i recently met. Everything was going perfect until the holidays where we did not have any time for each other. now talking to her on myspace, she seems a little sketchy. like she doesn't kno if she likes me anymore. i guessing maybe because of the gap in the communication. i haven't yet been able to see her but we're still msging each other. i like her but i'm thinking i might be wasting my time now. i'm not sure if i should cut her loose yet, but if i did would saying something like
("I really like you, but you're making it really hard to tell if you want this continue or not. If not then just say so.")
be a bad idea? I don't want to sound unconfident, i just don't want to waste my time.
Hey XavierLadyLover,

Without knowing more details it's tricky to say as you didn't mention if you were a couple, friends who are flirting, in the process of being bf/gf etc or what you would like to happen from here.

If you could send me more details of your position it would be much easier for me to see where you are and give you advice to move on from there.

However I can say sending her a message like that is a bad idea because you're putting her in the role of the decider/leader, which puts you in the weaker position and subcommunicates insecurity, which as we all know is a major attraction killer.

Women look to men to lead, and show them the way, if you expect that from her I'm 99% sure it will be the beginning of the end.

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Hi Adam ,

First of all let me just start and say Happy News Years and hope the coming year will shower all of us with love and happiness. All People everywhere.

Bro, My Journey throughout this experience (started 2 years ago) has been excellent, It started with basic lucious intentions about getting laid etc... now its being used as a tool to get to know more people.

Bro here are something I need to ask you actually:

1-What innergame tips do you use/ material you recommend to check out in order to break out from your bubble. I saw you doing the dancing vid and its not the dancing technique that amazed me its the amount of balls it took. Your inner game escalated in all senses what did you use or read ?

2-When you go out do you frame yourself , Im going out to meet more women as friends even if they are hot ? in order to build your entourage game. What do you frame yourself from within ?

3-What factor do you layout there when taking out so many women? there is a hidden secret behind it im sure, some guys do entourage game but factor is for example , money they pay for their drinks etc.

Hope you can answer these questions Adam.
Happy NYE,
God Bless
Hey Raman, Happy new year to you too buddy!

Interesting questions bro. I am a firm believer of failing a thousand times to succeed once, my entire inner game is based on my willingness to fail over and over until I get the job done.

I'm sure there is some beneficial inner game related information out there but I tend to be a little more old school in my attitude to getting things done. Quite simply put very few of us are born great and I wasn't one of those lucky people, every valuable thing I have achieved has been done through plain hard work.

Thankfully I am in a good place now and living the life I always wanted to live, but I came from the humblest of beginnings and failed thousands of times before I ever gained anything worthwhile, the number one inner game advice I know is to just do it. It doesn't matter if you fail because each failure is one step closer to success.

I don't frame myself, I think with goals. Whatever I need to get done I know I will do it as I have no other option. Again I may fail but soon all those failures add up and actually give you an edge that most people lack because most people are too afraid to take those critical first steps.

With all goals I have a break them down into manageable chunks, if I want to take the girl home then I must open first etc. Know what you want, plan the best way to go about it and jump head first without worrying about failure. These are the foundations of every success I have ever had.

Entourage game is all about investment, the whole idea is that it's low investment on your end and high investment on the girls. You game as normal, you do not mention VIP entry or free drinks (these are bonus they see when they arrive and shouldn't be the reason they came) after you run your game and have qualified them, you reward them by inviting them out to your event.

From there your value is raised through social proof and you just have a hell of a lot of fun ;0)

Hope this helps,
Adam


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:44 pm 
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Hey this question is for anyone out there.

So I was at a new years party last night and i thought of a possible opener / neg. I just opened over my shoulder with:
Me : "So.. which one is your bf here?"
Both HBs: "oh..we uh dont have Bf's ..."
Me: "oh you guys don't have any friends?"
Both HBs: *laughed* What was your name?"
Me: " well im.....blah blah... "

So what do you guys think ?
Hey Daygo,

Haha, Sounds like you pulled it off bro. Openers like these are all about the delivery and vibe.

Hope the rest of your night went well!

Adam


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:48 pm 
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Hi Adam firstly congrats on becoming world number 1 pua. and what is
the best way of dealing with drunks on the dance floor during dance game despite using alpha male body language and elements of the dance game I still have trouble with drunks who deices to throw themselves around the dance floor knocking into me and others being compete idiots and cock blocking me because there out of it. what is the best way to stop this happening or at lest how to recover for it without looking like a beta male
Hey wolf101,

Thanks mate, it's nice to know people like my work!

What I tend to do is preempt their amog techniques so that when they do eventually do it, you take their glory because you have called them out on it before they even did it. I do this by first framing the person as a douchebag with some justification (look at that ugly Ed Hardy T shirt, Can you get anymore douchey?) They key is to get the girls to agree and invest by joining in.

The second they have done this you have just framed him as the enemy and when he does try to amog you to get in with the girls, it will backfire on him as it makes him look like more of whatever you framed him as, all you have to do then is mention the “in joke” you now have about him with the girls and watch them laugh. They'll get rid of the guy for you in an instant.

Be careful with this, it's extremely powerful.
Adam


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:51 pm 
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hi Adam il make this quick..
im 17, and game comes easy for me. i still study it cause i learn fast and use many good things to apply in game, just for self improvment really. well, there is this girl i like quite a lot, but for some reason i cant get a negative or postive response from her. i neg her, she negs me back. i am sweet to her, she acts neutral, and i get a neutral response for almost everything.. im working for weeks to get a positive and even now a negative

how can i push it to see if she is interested in me?

by the way i havnt kinoed much, just a huge and a little flirting

mR.e
Hey mR.e,

Does it look like you're actually reaction seeking? It's entirely possible that she senses this and is doing it on purpose.

If she's neutral then it's pretty safe to assume you're not adding much value to her. Think about ways that you can add something to her life (be it making her laugh, or helping her out in some way)

Another option is to simply escalate until you get a response but be warned this is the riskiest possible move and does have the potential to completely blow up in your face. Having said that it also has the highest payoff as it may just be that she's holding herself back. Only you can really know this as I only have one paragraph to base my assumptions on. Be careful!

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Hi Adam.

1. You're playing a lot of social circle/social proof game and I wonder how do you play your game if you're in some city/country where you dont know nobody? I'm talking about night game here?

2. How do you play your game if you want to get same night lays?

3. How do you open a bithcy HB10 and get to the hook point?

Thanks for answering
Dejan
Hey Dejan (Prosp3ct)

Mate I can answer all these questions no problem, but from my experience those who ask questions that aren't relevant to their own specific situations are just well mentally masturbating. What if this happens? or that happens? Life has an infinite number of what ifs, instead of worrying about them or even what anyone else would wouldn't it be better to concern your self of not what you would do but what you ARE doing?

I use social proof as an addition to my game, it's not the foundation of my game mate :) I run normal game for SNL's (C-R) + Q + SE. The only difference is that all my qualifications will be designed to solidify the SNL (Are you spontaneous? Etc)

I would never actually choose to open a super bitchy HB10, I would rather find a nice fun girl to spend my precious time with :) but if I had to, I would add value to her, failing that I would game everyone around me and then get someone whom she isn't bitchy with to introduce me to her.

But again this is all hypothetical and you have not gained anything from reading this, How bout you send ask me a question directly about your own life? Maybe then you'll get something out of these messages?

You don't need an entourage to social proof a venue buddy, here's an article I wrote on the subject.

http://www.bristollair.com/inner-game/u ... proof.html

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Hi Adam,

I was dating this girl for four months, we had been best friends for a year before we started dating. Recently she ended things saying that she missed the way things used to be in the friendship because it feels as if we weren't as close as we used to be, and wanted to go back to being friends. She tried to contact me for a couple weeks afterwards but I more or less politely brushed her off, and now we haven't spoken in 3 weeks, as she's stopped trying to contact me. Is there any thing I can do to get her back, or at least build attraction back so I can sleep with her again, she's a 10 lol.

Thanks so much for any advice you can give me, greatly appreciated!
Hey Scorgasm,

So it's pretty clear that you do not want to be just friends with her again,in that case what I would to is leave things as they are for a while to let is all settle.

In that time go off and game other chicks to eliminate any neediness you have for her. Then once you've come to peace with the way things are between you, game her from scratch.

Do this by creating an event and inviting her and her friends to it (making it clear that it's not a date) invite all the new girls/people that you've met in your time apart from her and flirt with everyone there (social proof) then use that time to catch up with her.

She'll see that your doing very well for yourself (which will make her think twice about having broken up with you, and get her to start investing again) then run game as you normally would.

(C-R) + Q + SE

Hope this helps,
Adam


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Adam, will you have my babies? :)
Hahaha

Unfortunately I'm a married man, Maybe in another life Hobbit ;)

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Adam, I just watched your LJBF video. Are the steps in that video applicable with a girl who flat out tells you she isn't interested in a relationship with anyone? I've been involved with this HB 8, and though I've finally killed the oneitis I had for over a year, I still want to see if something can happen. I'm not interested in a friends with benefits situation with her, but I'd be willing to go back to dating her if the option for a relationship was on the table. Short story is: we made out a year ago, I liked her but had no game at the time. After a long time of not seeing her, we eventually randomly met up and she started hanging in my circle. We ended up going on two dates, not much kino on the first but tons on the second (that date was on the 23rd of December).

However, when I was driving her home she asked me what I was looking for, stating the above problem. The idiot I was, I told her straight out that I would like that with her and blah blah blah, dead date from there. Two days later she texted me and I asked her what she meant by that and if it was her not wanting one with me or not wanting one period. I joined this crowd that night, been doing better ever since. A week later, a bunch of us went to a bar and she decided to sit next to me, I started with the kino again but she pushed me away saying her head wasn't right as she'd had too much to drink. So I pull off and go back to my group. Is she still game, or should I completely move on? I've had a few day 2s since then and a few prospects are still in line, but a part of me doesn't want to give up. Still haven't re-kclosed. I think I built too much comfort and not enough attraction, but she still doesn't want a relationship so I'm unsure of how to proceed.
Hey Nihro,

From my experience a girl who says she doesn't want a relationship with anyone is pretty much just looking for no strings attached fun. This could be for many reasons but mainly it comes down to her wanting to be free for a while.

By you telling her flat out that you wanted relationship with her, while you were in the process of hooking up killed the magic of the interaction, as it took out the anticipation of what' s going to happen next.

Half of the fun is and a major part of investment comes from enjoying the process as it unfolds and not being exactly sure of what's happening next. The second you define it, it becomes ordinary. a chore, something to get out of the way.

There's no more room for interpretation anymore. It's no longer a dance between two loves who watch the beauty of the others moves wondering what's going to happen next.

Instead you've made all of your moves predictable and it's obvious what's your trying to do. She'll see it as you trying to gain something from her rather than anything else.

What I would do is LJBF her (You know I'm really glad we decided to be friends, anything more would be a little weird actually, God what was I thinking!) then start from comfort and take things really slowly. Game other girls in the mean time to raise your abundance mentality and eliminate any neediness you may be showing.

As she's in your social circle you can invite your new girls to hang out in the group without it looking like your trying to make her jealous.

This will start to get her interest again, the rest is up to you. Only next time do not flat out tell her. Let it unfold naturally ;0)

Hope this helps,
Adam


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What do you think of the Mystery Method and about Negs. They seem to work perfectly with Mystery but do you think they work in Day Game.

Also I don't think you have ever told us how you met your wife !! We'd all like to know and would like to learn from you.
I'd rather not comment on MM ;)

Negs can be useful at times, but honestly they aren't anything major and one can game just as effectively (if not more) without them.

Me and my wife? Oh it's a loooooong story, shes the only woman to have ever gamed me like I gamed her. I'll tell you guys the story some other time ;)

Adam


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Thank you Adam.

You're right... I Do NOT like what you had to say. But you HAD to say it since it is the only right thing. I knew it (somehow) but hoped I'm wrong (I am a fighter -.-)...

Thanks for your kind words and givin me a piece of mind mate.

Have an awsome evening and weekend.


Best wishes

Me
Haha Thanks for the props buddy, I like it when someone takes what they didn't want to hear on the chin; It's a sign of strength of character.

With an attitude like yours it's plain to see you'll do well mate.

Good luck with where life takes you next. I'll be here if you have anymore questions ;)

All the best,
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Hey Adam,

Whats the 2 worst rejections you have ever received. Let us feel that am MPUA is equally human :lol: :lol:

Thanks Mate,

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hi Adam il make this quick..
im 17, and game comes easy for me. i still study it cause i learn fast and use many good things to apply in game, just for self improvment really. well, there is this girl i like quite a lot, but for some reason i cant get a negative or postive response from her. i neg her, she negs me back. i am sweet to her, she acts neutral, and i get a neutral response for almost everything.. im working for weeks to get a positive and even now a negative

how can i push it to see if she is interested in me?

by the way i havnt kinoed much, just a huge and a little flirting

mR.e
Hey mR.e,

Does it look like you're actually reaction seeking? It's entirely possible that she senses this and is doing it on purpose.

If she's neutral then it's pretty safe to assume you're not adding much value to her. Think about ways that you can add something to her life (be it making her laugh, or helping her out in some way)

Another option is to simply escalate until you get a response but be warned this is the riskiest possible move and does have the potential to completely blow up in your face. Having said that it also has the highest payoff as it may just be that she's holding herself back. Only you can really know this as I only have one paragraph to base my assumptions on. Be careful!

Hope this helps,
Adam





ahhh yea i get what you mean... i wish things would be easier sometimes though ha! i do sense that she might notice me doing things, but at the same time she isnt a very social girl in general, so i feel like i need to make it more obvious of i might be in the friend zone you know? she is so sweet though ha one of those girls who isnt the popular bitches but just natural pretty and just awesome. girls and bloody confusing...

thank you for the input its always appreciated im definitely going to have to figure out a plane to make things happen, until then im gonna go out and game to keep things off my mind a little i over think :P one more question though, il try and make this fast as well

basically, how do you push for the girls who are HB10s?
i know its just like all game but at the moment im in a strange situation. i can really pretty much get any number from like HB7s and HB8s and even HB9s (im fine with day 2s and closing with these) but when it comes down to it i still get blown out of the water by the HB10s, not all the time but about half the time. im a nature when it comes to kino with girls as well as just understanding there reactions, i do use a lot of your social game though to boost my value. problem, im kinda young, only 18, and i do go club so its hard for a younger guy to get a like 20 year old HB10, when there is like a 24 year old guy who can do it better just by him being older and being able to go to the bar and stuff and can offer more ex- place to stay, i live with my parents at the moment (i know girls go for older guys i see little freshman girls always trying to go for me ha its nature)

so how do i do this how do i really step up to that next level of game?


your the best mate
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