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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:28 am 
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I know in the chat I have come off as arrogant at times and def havin an Ego.. which to some point I do at times... But yes.. I do constantly humble myself... when my ego is feeding me lines of bullshit to myself about "being better than someone" whether it be in general or at an activity.. I remind myself.. that my worth is no more than the next guy.. and also just because I may be more talented at something currently it doesnt mean that that person wont' surpass me in the future.. so.. its a constant reminder of that sort of thing...


I like this Post.. Good Read..

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I will admit the last couple weeks I have been posting a lot on this forum. I don't think I've ever given advice on something that I haven't at least experienced and learned from, myself, but I'll definitely take the extra few seconds to make sure that I am accurately comparing my situation to make sure my experiences can help someone.

I said it in another thread, but I don't like to advertise my personal life. I avoided reports because I saw it just as a means for guys to boost their egos. I still think the majority of them are just that, but a couple by members who I'll admit are better at this than me proved otherwise. So I'll try to find a balance between providing enough info to help while not turning it into boasting. I guess that can help people more than anything else I can contribute.


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I am currently trying to understand PUA for a more meaningful life in relationships. For myself. And sure, if that makes people around me happy, congratulations.

But there is just one thing that pisses me of about your post and it is this following sentence;

Remove the ego.

What-the-fu*k-are-you-talking-about? The Ego Exists, maybe this is the wrong place for this quote but someone said. You can take the man out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of the man.

I mean, if you "remove" the Ego, Where-Is-It-Supposed-To-Go? Into your Real Life Pocket so you can buy a Ferrari? Well, havent you bought a Ferrari then? Isnt the Ego still there, but in the form of a Ferrari? (Yes, I do want a Ferrari.)


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Great post! This has helped my awareness just from reading this. And can see how you can skyrocket your learning when you de-tach your ego.

Don't get me wrong, if i get laid, i like telling my friend about it, to see their opinion, i find it fun. I find it equally as fun telling my friends how a chick absolutely screamed abuse at me for thinking i was a crap person. It doesn't matter what the story is, i still like sharing it with my friends, not to get an ego boost from and make them think you're awesome, I am not a people pleaser.(even though we're all guilty of that sometimes). But just to socialize, share experiences, and see others opinions.


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I'll admit,i need to make some changes about the ego aspect...though,i think this post IS indeed ironic.

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Yes chief, I agree with what you are saying and I am actively involved in the struggle with my ego.

I look at my motives all the time. By the way I consider myself a rAFC

The thing regarding the forum and advice. Sometimes I see some guy post some ridiculous thing. Some thing that I know I am beyond. In this case, I feel I can provide a tip to someone who may need advice. Then I will provide that tip for his personal growth. Usually these people are desperate AFC's. I just climbed out of that hole a few years ago. So my knowledge and perspective on being a AFC is still kind of fresh.

With that said.. I am always checking the ego. So I do not get carried away. I find what I write to be interesting prob to AFC's and some PUA's that genuinely help me out. All is appreciated on my side of the perspective. And I try to not hate on the Trolls, that is just silly. Good post tho bra.

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"It's only arrogance if you're wrong."


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"It's only arrogance if you're wrong."
One more reason why people here who are actually trying to learn don't listen to you. The point has been completely missed.

I found my ego creeping back in the last few weeks. A coworker was going through a rough breakup and I thought getting him out to the bars would help out a bit. He kept complaining about how meeting women anywhere was creepy, how I objectify women, and asked me "why dont you just find a girl you like through mutual friends, pay her compliments and prove how great you think she is, then ask her out?" I spewed so much really basic pickup philosophy, then just stood there for a moment and asked myself if I was trying to help him, or just wanting to hear myself talk? I let up on the guy, I don't go on about how he should assume attraction, be physical, let loose, etc, because while I do want to help him, trying to force him into it and harping on about how he could do better was on the verge of turning into me starting to get an undeserved ego.

Hell, at least I'm getting better.


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Then what about C&F? You're saying we shouldn't do that b/c C&F comes from having an ego in the first place.


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I am currently trying to understand PUA for a more meaningful life in relationships. For myself. And sure, if that makes people around me happy, congratulations.

But there is just one thing that pisses me of about your post and it is this following sentence;

Remove the ego.

What-the-fu*k-are-you-talking-about? The Ego Exists, maybe this is the wrong place for this quote but someone said. You can take the man out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of the man.

I mean, if you "remove" the Ego, Where-Is-It-Supposed-To-Go? Into your Real Life Pocket so you can buy a Ferrari? Well, havent you bought a Ferrari then? Isnt the Ego still there, but in the form of a Ferrari? (Yes, I do want a Ferrari.)
I agree. We all have an Ego. Hav'nt any of you guys any knowledge of basic psychology. What some guys mean by not having an ego, they actually mean having an inflexible exagerrated ego. I have an ego we all do. This fact about not having one is just hippie rubbish. Most people who say they do not have an ego, behave and act as they do. They think removing the word from their vocabulary makes it disappear. Also using swear words to sound cool, well is that not an ego thing. Try having someone slap u in the face and say fuck u, and see if u have an ego then.

Whether guys give good advice or bad, it creates traffic and makes guys get involved in conversations, just like real conversations, everyone has an opinion. If people only responded if they felt qualified to do so there would be no community. We all have vacuums to fill, some of us bigger than others.

If someone for example went to the forest to starve himself to get rid of his ego. Then that is not something to aim for. No ambition, nothing, its just ridiculous. If u preach balance then preach balance. Not everyone can attain nor has desire to attain masterhood.

I can just see now a guy who has no ego, not approaching because he is one with himself.

The ego is what gets hurt when a person is rejected, however it is also the force that drives that person to approach.

Signifiance is what drives people, so lets not be here lying about it using hippie language.

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Then what about C&F? You're saying we shouldn't do that b/c C&F comes from having an ego in the first place.
I'm confused. When I get all readied up I guess I get a boost in my ego? I feel good. Ya I'm a cocky funny dude during these moments. Discuss . . .


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Did you guys actually read Chief's post? Or did you read the title, read "ego problems" and go off?

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I’m humbled by so many insightful comments.
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Your ego is by far the greatest obstacle in self-improvement, mastering the pickup arts, and your overall path to self-actualization.
It’s comments like this that make me glad I joined this forum. Thank you. We just don’t hear the word actualization enough.
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It serves no purpose other than boosting their ego; they want to get a quick fix, call themselves a PUA and go show off to their friends. They know who they are. They're the guys who want to know what the best method is, how long it takes, and if it really works (translation: if it's worth their time).
Haha the cost benefit and marginal utility of learning pick up. Unfortunately many people don’t have enough self validation or self esteem. I have a looong way to go plus true actualization…well now were getting philosophical is a form of enlightenment.

However when you start to become aware of this it tends to be really significant in people lives. Just how comfortable people are with themselves. And I think im preaching to the quier here but admitting you know little is very hard for people. …And getting guys to admit they suck with women? Haha forget it!

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Unfortunatly that is something we cant change. Like i said in my edit some1 can only be shown what to do, we cant do it for them. :(
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I dont find this post effective So what exactly is your plan for change? Are u going to ban them or issue warnings? How is telling people to "fucking read this" an then calling them KJ and is going to change anything?
It’s addressing one of the most important issues. If you lack self esteem/actualization/worth through whatever reason, your life will be far worse then it could be otherwise. This includes but is not limited to women.

Look at Allen Iverson. Would he have squandered $150 mil if he was validated within himself? There are inner issues going on here.

This is why I love pick up its almost like an egg. The shell is all the shit you see and people talk about but the meat is your sense of value and self worth. It transcends women and can guide you as a man through concepts like the male ego.
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Then what about C&F? You're saying we shouldn't do that b/c C&F comes from having an ego in the first place.
I'm confused. When I get all readied up I guess I get a boost in my ego? I feel good. Ya I'm a cocky funny dude during these moments. Discuss . . .
Bro come on. It really does not look like you read anything.

CF and ego are not mutually exclusive. But at the same time….blah I cant go into this right now. Mostly because my answer will be littered with fallacy… I may understand the difference yet lack the ability to convey it in words. Im sure another member will eloquently deliver a glorious responds.


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I can totally relate to the part where you say: Im the one Im fooling the most.
Actually I made a topic not so while ago with that same title: The one person I keep fooling the most.

But you have to be aware that what you are focusing on this topic is the deepest shit you can ask a man for.

Im currently reading an epic book that is changing my life, the same way the movie did; its called The Peacefull Warrior by Dan Millman.

Havent finished just yet, but when I do so, and practice some of the experiences the prota had, Imma re post in here.

For the first time I feel in the same page with you Chief, for the first time Im really seeing this as a community.


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This thread makes so much sense, I have learned a lot. Thanks. Just sayin'.


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