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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:45 am 
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I know the perfectionist road is damn near foolhardy, especially on something that requires OTHER PEOPLE as validation to your success. But I really believe I can do it. It's a gut feeling you know? To give up on it is like giving up on a life dream at this point in my life, if you can relate to that. There is no doubt in my mind that I will achieve what most of you say is impossible. To be THE PUA, and everything that goes with it. I wouldn't be able to squash the feeling even if I tried. I couldn't tell you if i'm brainwashed or if i'm egotistical or something, I just know how it feels.

So because it's impossible to fuck every woman due to whatever reasons: she's madly in love with her boyfriend/husband/guy she likes(yeah some women like men are this weird), she's a sexual prude, loyalty (maybe not love but simply her loyalty), wrong time, etc. Anyone with good experience with women will tell you that it can be one of 1 million reasons she won't fuck you.

YOU ARE NOT FUNCTIONING IN REALITY.

Unless you are going to start raping women the reality is you will never fuck every woman you want because it's beyond your control.

I've found a way to become attractive to about 8-9 out of 10... (I had multiple women agree with this): I bet 9 out of 10 women find me attractive after knowing me. I've probably said that to 20 woman and have never had a woman disagree... because my attraction is based on how I make people feel. However fucking 10 out of 10 would be asinine and though I build attraction with most women I'm still not always SEXUALLY attractive to all of them women...

It's not within your control man, that is what we're trying to explain to you it's not like you can say but about anything... I'm different. You can be amazing with women... and have severely responsive game, charisma, wealthy, be a social chameleon, be a tall, "hot", be ripped, have her perfect size cock, have pretty eyes, make her laugh, etc. Basically be her perfect person... and for some reason she just won't like you in that way. Perhaps she doesn't feel connected to you. Some women are intimidated by the "perfect" package or have low self-esteem so feel that they don't deserve it.

This is what you need to realize: YOU WILL NEVER GET EVERY WOMAN YOU WANT. You can't hold on to it when you can't get the girl that is what we're saying...

Again the only way to get every women you go after is to go after none and hope to get lucky.

"I know I can do it" like you are some god... no one can that is our point... no one is putting you down or saying you won't get better than the next guy but outside of rape you won't fuck every woman you go for. You're not any different simply because it's beyond your control... do all within your control but sometimes shit just don't work out.

The other thing you need to remember is each time you don't get a woman it teaches you something: maybe it is that you can't get every woman...

If you need to get every woman you are going to be connected to not getting women... this will make you very needy making it even harder to get women.

Good luck in all your pick up endeavors...

Peace and Love,

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:24 am 
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Why do so many gullible brahs pick up PU? There is no such thing as getting any woman you want or as being every woman's type. If people on a PUA forum of all places are telling a guy to move on, it's because he's VERY CLEARLY in over his head and really not socially aware enough to take her hints. Your determination is admirable but for every bill gates there are thousands of people with just as much skill but not enough luck who don't get anywhere.

See: illusion of control


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:32 am 
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First, I've gotta say, I like your "I won't be defeated!" attitude. That's good. But you're talking about human beings here dude. Not robots. As much as you'd like to believe that you can fuck any woman you want to fuck, it's NEVER going to happen.

Heres why: Not everyone you meet is going to like you.

You're not going to get along with everyone. There is something you are completely over looking with the whole "pick-up" thing... It's called chemistry. In order for people to have any type of relationship (be it simply friends or a sexual relationship) they have to have chemistry with each other. This is not something that can be explained. Either you have chemistry with people or you don't. That's just the way it goes. You can't force this. You can't study this. It's something that is and will always remain "unknown." Don't get upset about it... embrace it. The unknown things in life is the best part about life... the things that you can't explain keep life interesting.

I'll put it to you this way brother... Let's get a bit wacky for a second. Let's say, for shits and giggles, that you could fuck any woman that you want to fuck. Do you realize how fucking BORING your life will be? If you KNEW you could have sex with every girl you want to have sex with? That's lame dude. That's not fun KNOWING what's going to happen all the time. That's what makes pick up so fucking awesome. Because you NEVER know what's gonna happen. The unknown is amazing.

Seriously man, getting good with women isn't about being the best pick up artist ever so you can brag about it... It's about putting your dick into vagina. It's about love. It's about sharing your already amazing life with women. It's not about stroking your stupid fucking ego. Let's be real. You probably didn't get involved in "the community" because you wanted to be the best pick up artist ever... No, No, No. I'm going to guess you got involved in this because you wanted to get your dick wet. Keep it that way or you are completely destined for failure and disappointment.

My rant here is done. I'll suggest you change your way of thinking back to what you originally were set on doing when you Google searched "how to pick up women." Either way... Good luck to you.

-Jay


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:01 am 
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The PUA community is a bit too obsessed with "nexting". If you chase a girl WELL and CONSISTENTLY how many other guys in her life do you think are doing the same, yea, probably none. Oneitis is not necessarily a bad thing aslong as it is handled well. PUA is currently in 2013 too focused on getting ANY girl rather than THAT girl. A true PUA will get THAT girl.
+1 to this, and its not even really about chasing(I actually prefer the term 'Pursuing'). It's about creating SOMETHING from NOTHING, it's an art. Creating that interest, that spark of attraction from seemingly nowhere, not JUST waiting till you see a girl come on to you. Thats what PUA mastery of old was, with all their little magic tricks, routines, and geeky terms. Geeks getting the hottest girls in the bar through practice.

Hmmm...I gotta say you DO have a point in some respects. However, I believe that chasing or trying to get every girl is bad and unrealistic for 2 reasons:
1. As you said, life is short. If you spend time on girls who are not interested in you you're wasting precious time. I've gamed and turned around girls who were giving resistence and in my personal experience they weren't worth the battle in the end. The really amazing girls in my life, things went easily with, and when I realized this I stopped trying to turn around every girl.
2. I don't know what scenario you are gaming, but there are rules and laws in society. Guys who persist when a girl acts uninterested are deemed creeper and stalker. If you keep texting or trying to talk to every girl who is not interested, you're going to get these labels and possibly charged with harassment.

But I do kinda see you and vics point. The community has lost alot of the viewpoint that this is a skill and art. I think the shift came as natural game and direct game got bigger. The backbone of indirect game was you can approach a woman indirectly, and build attraction secretly so in theory you can get every woman. Even if she not into black guys and you're black, you can use negs, teases, routines on her and the group so that you trigger something inside of her to be compelled to being with you.

By contrast, the backbone of natural game and direct game is more focused on looking for IOI's, approaching girls and being fun and yourself. Inherently in these methods, you accept that some girls will be taken and not interested and blow your off immediately so it's best to move on. Being able to select the girls you want, to choosing amongst the girls you get. A lay report with a slut is praised more than a solid number close that you worked for with the girl you chose to approach.

As Majikal said, I like your attitude but it's not being realistic in society and with time ticking away. There is always a trade off. Go direct, you waste less time but you have less options. Go indirect, you waste more time but more options.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:08 pm 
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Unless you are going to start raping women the reality is you will never fuck every woman you want because it's beyond your control.
I'm so glad to read this quote. This is what makes the PUA community seem rapey, this "fuck any woman" talk as if they are passive compliant receptacles. If the haters and critics of this community knew that so many people in it could accept when a woman genuinely doesn't want them, it might improve its reputation.

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