What you just wrote rides solely upon your personal definition of "intelligent." It is not my shortcoming that you cannot understand what a trajectory is. If I drill a hole in a concrete block, that hole marks a trajectory: a path traversed through space. Now if you tilt the block, the hole will look different depending on where one stands, but the trajectory the drill took remains constant. This means that perception colours reality but does not alter it. Everything I just wrote is pure logic, common sense really. Your attempts to chip away at this as unintelligent resemble those of a maggot crawling up the walls of heaven.

Speaking about "intelligence" . . . Electricity existed for as long as atoms existed, for as long as lightning strikes existed. Electricity was not "invented" by Tesla (as could be testified by stories of Zeus and Thor hurling thunderbolts from the skies).

Can't you two just PM each other about your philosophies?

Keep seeing new posts on this thread, thinking it's about the OP but you're still on about this irrelevant tangent...

Dude... I really hope you're trolling. For full disclosure, yes I trained in stand up fighting for a total of 8 years.
I lift at the gym 6 days a week (for the last 7 years, no breaks except during fractures, back injuries, and fevers). As far as physical shape goes, I'm very pleased with where I'm at. I don't post my stats on the internet (i don't swing my e-peen), but if you're interested in my stats, diet, or routine, PM me. I always wear modest, but well fitted shirts. I don't flaunt what I have, because I don't need to. Honestly, knowing that there's more to you than others see, is good for your inner game. Girls get a pleasant surprise when the shirt comes off, but I don't need women flocking to me because I have "abs" or "pecs". Ones that drool at muscles tend to be the dumbest, most vapid females you'll ever meet.

That said? The people you're describing.. are complete cavemen, caricatures. Being manly turns women on, but acting like you have the intelligence of a banana, DOES NOT. WWE, most boxers, etc are absolute and total clowns. If they weren't famous and rich, no woman with an ounce of class or intelligence would come near them. I know tons of roided up meatheads that can't get laid for the life of them. Aside from making them look like imbeciles, the behavior in those videos, if I were to see it in real life, would tell me that the person is extremely insecure and/or just truly, utterly stupid. Its not alpha.

Do you know who's alpha? More alpha than these "bros" will ever be? Fedor Emelianenko. He is the most confident, alpha, and badass fighter I have ever seen, and he never acted disrespectfully towards others, or like a buffoon on a meth bender. He came out with a cold stare, beat the shit out of his opponents, shook their hand, thanked the audience, and left with his suitcases full of money. A true alpha doesn't flaunt what he has. He derives confidence from knowing what he's worth, without needing affirmation and attention from others. He's relaxed and at ease. Additionally, the majority of girls does not find such gratuitous amounts of muscle attractive. I ALWAYS get the same reaction any time I show pics of IFBB pros to girls. "EWW".
Being masculine is good. But my suggestion is, don't turn in to a caricature.

I'm probably the most steroid-educated non-steroid user you'll run across in a while, given how many of my friends are on the juice. Being on the juice turns you in to an emotionally unstable mangina. Hopefully you know what happens post cycle (and hopefully you know enough to go off cycle). Most users don't use estrogen blockers, and don't PCT correctly, and literally, their brains start becoming female every time they go off cycle, and even while on. All males have Estrogen for various supporting roles, like maintaining bone density, yaddah yaddah. We don't have ovaries, and our Estrogen is produced by T conversion. When you raise your T to unnatural levels, the Estrogen production scales roughly linearly. What does this mean? You grow your very own luscious breasts, and you start to act like a woman on PMS. Even worse, this is compounded with the aggression from unnatural levels of test, falling T receptor density (setting you up for major maidenhood during post cycle), and gonadal atrophy. Does that still sound manly to you?
Even if you do PCT properly and use estrogen blockers, you are still going to have to deal with hypogonadism and reduced T receptor density in your brain, and act like a depressed beta semi-mangina.

Of course, the most important fun fact, that almost NO gearhead knows or acknowledges, is their signing off for an early death by heart failure. If you want I can send you a list of controlled studies, both animal model, and human, off pubmed, that show cardiac hypertrophy (BAD news), and cardiac scarring from anabolic steroid use. You think the congenital heart defect was the only thing that killed ZYZZ?

Using steroids is a shortcut that might get you some "babes" today, but tomorrow you'll be bald, "top heavy", and depressed with heart disease. Do you ever wonder why so many retired wrestlers/ex beefcakes off themselves at 40? I never see someone deflate faster than when I see my friends go off cycle. Even sadder, most of them stick to highly anabolic shit like anadrol, dbol or plain test (the more anabolic, the worse for cardiac hypertrophy), and can't lift worth shit. They're just "huge", and run out of steam after 30 seconds of running or sparring.
My advice to anyone who asks about "getting big" is always the same: use whey, creatine, and train CONSISTENTLY, and HEAVY.

That said, I agree with the others on some of the points. Beating your chest, being overly confrontational, and making too much noise, are indicators of insecurity. Do you see Jay Cutler acting that way? He doesn't give a fuck. He knows he's Mr. Olympia, and doesn't need everyone to dance around making noise for everyone to notice him

On the other hand, being muscular IN PROPORTION (fit), standing your ground (being willing to fight when necessary) IS alpha. and calling that insecure, generally is just jealousy.

Dude... Lay off the gear for a bit and relax. I have sparred Muai Thai against (poorly trained) guys on roids 40 lbs heavier than me, and they FLOUNDER. Uncoordinated, no technique, no striking power (yes, believe it or not) and after 30 seconds they're completely out of steam. Like someone pointed out, no amount of muscle will protect your cheek, or your orbital (check out crocop vs. Bob "steroid" Sapp).
Given, if you're tall, 200 pounds, you have endurance, and you have trained in stand up properly and consistently, no 140 lbs twig will touch you. However, very very few muscular guys have any idea of how to fight properly, because they assume that muscle alone will let them win.

THIS

Please. Very very few guys know how to bench properly. What is a martial artist going to do when a 300lb chest barbell is thrown over his chest? Very very very very few martial artists know how to bench 300 lbs.

Who gives a fuck how much you can bench? That won't do any good for you besides being some tough guy who grunts in the gym... If you think being big is all that matters.... I challenge you to fight against this little guy (please record it so I can see what happens to you...)

a 600 lbs bench press doesn't stop Bob Sapp from getting his ass beat by guys half his size.
A punch and bench press are completely unrelated. Most of the impulse in a "cross" punch comes from the hips/obliques/lats. Aside from that, most lifters are way too slow to throw a jab (which is generally too weak as a punch to KO with) to be useful for anything besides creating a buffer zone. Trying to bench press air or doing a "shadow" fly won't get you a very powerful punch, and leave you wide open to a KO, regardless of how much iron you can lift. Using kicks/knees tends to be completely off limits to beefcakes due to the horrendous stamina/flexibility/speed. You're hypothesizing. I actually lift, and I actually spar with these guys. I'm telling you how it is. Anyways dude. I hope for your sake, that you're a troll from /misc... because I can't believe some of the stuff you write...

Didn't that pussy lose back to back?

Who gives a fuck about that loser boxer. I'll put a bench press of 300 lbs on his chest and he will be disabled.

Being big isn't the only thing that matters.

Being big and having a tan is the only thing that matters.

Bobb Sapp... please!

Have you seen his fights? His cardio is horrendous.

I would run around him until he passes out.

Being big and knowing MMA doesn't matter if you don't have cardio.

EDIT: Your girl left you and you don't know why? Hit the gym pork chop.

-_- Guys... We've been trolled...
I can't believe it took this long...

PS. if, goodness forbid, I'm wrong and you really are this stupid, (sadly, I've met people at the gym that come close to your level) I hope you don't consider your 300lbs bench to be anything to look at... I hit that over 3 years ago, before ever even using creatine. Some of us train for strength, others (like you, in the unfortunate event you're not a troll), lift to look like a steak on chickenlegs (yes. ALWAYS chicken legs), while lifting like a woman. Hope those bitch tits were worth the mediocre PRs. If you're not a misc troll, you probably don't even know what PCT is.

omfg I feel like an idiot now... Its been a while...
Next time be a bit more subtle about your trolling... You're going over the top dude...

Keep lifting bro. It's your personality that sucks.