Disagree. Turn it round to blokes talking about women's bodies. You think good looking blokes with great bodies would find hot girls hot, but fat ugly blokes would find hot girls ugly and prefer fatter girls? The question being answered in the article wasn't "which body type are you most likely to be able to get with", it was "which do you find the most attractive".

LOL - Na I'm not mad(why would I be?)... I just thought that video was the perfect proof of what I was talking about... I'm not a jester here to entertain. I'm not pulling off my shirt so I can impress(lol not that I would impress without a shirt), he was doing all this shit trying to impress girls, sorry but I'm not some tool here to impress girls, I got a life, and I don't need attention to feel good about myself.

Hopefully that makes your perceive what I'm saying... He does shit to gain attention this is a sign of a big ego. He gets off on attention, someone with confidence doesn't need that attention.

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My original point before I got off topic on race. Here it is:

Going out as often as I do I can say that a lot of people fall under the below average category, go to a Community College or go out to eat at a buffet and you will see what I mean. Usually it is being overweight, very bad style, and bad hygiene. Average looking would mean that the person just has one or two things off about their style but if they fix it they can be above average.

Above average looks are obtainable for the majority of the male and female population. Work on style, get fit, and do other things like eat right to give yourself the glowing looks and such. For most of the population it is possible with enough hard work and dedication and you see it with people all the time. I used to be a 4/10 in my mid teens but now I am surely a 7/10 on most days (pic of myself if you want it). Been voted into beautifulpeople.com, get winks from different women, etc.

Now the CHALLENGE is being top percentile in terms of looks and there genetics and yes, to an extent, sadly enough factors that you can't control play a role. Like having Black hair with Blue eyes for example works wonders to put you into that category. A lot of it has to do with combination of features like a sharp chiseled Jaw, high cheekbones, high facial symmetry, and angular face.

I have a square/box shaped face similar to that of Enrique Iglesias (who is more attractive due to voice and status and not looks alone) as opposed to the chiseled face of David Gandy (who is a classic 9/10).

Now that is my take on it.

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^ i disagree i think sometimes self amusement, and cocky/funny may be perceived as big ego... When is not. But then again i did not see enough videos of zyzz, only a couple... I saw a dude having fun, fucking around, self-amused, trolling, not giving a fuck.... Similar to the muscle twin brothers..

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My point is that society says weight is an absolute bar, when this is not true in reality.

My point about the double standard still stands.

Egos are not bad, bro.
Zyzz specifically said he plays his stereotype of a douchebag. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He knew how to use his ego successfully and became a star.

Here's the real Zyzz... until he plays his ego at the last few seconds lol

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU6BFSeuK_g[/youtube]

His cat died^^

Dude, your letting your own insecurities come into play here. Nowhere did i say, overweight men can't get attractive women. I simply said the poll didn't do justice to what hotter women actually desire.

The more you you go down the scale (HB10 to HB1), the greater amounts of insecurities you will find. If an HB3 votes, she is going to vote closer to her own level for two reasons. 1: she needs to save her ego (not just a male thing) by saying that these less fit men are actually better looking than the more fit men. or 2: She is actually more attracted to that individual as a result of her own level of sexual status. check out the article at the bottom where it will talk about how human beings tend to seek partners in their looks grouping.

So... if in fact women want men closer to how they look, then the article absolutely does not apply to any male looking for HB8+ women. Am i saying that you can't get these hot women if you are overweight? No. I am saying that hot women aren't insecure and realize that a more fit body is closer to how they actually look and therefore want that. They don't NEED it to be in a relationship, but thats not whats in question, its what they want.

As for zyzz, he got women by taking his shirt off and showing that he was up on the scale. All you do is talk out your ass to convince women that your up too when in reality your fucking down. How do i know that? cuz you said it yourself, your overweight. In the wild, zyzz would kill you, eat your food, and then fuck your woman. Get off your ass and go to the gym.

http://humanscience.wikia.com/wiki/Law_of_Attraction

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Brilliant.

Maybe you lack comprehension reading skills, did you read that they sample sports, fit women????? And how do you know the women that voted where insecure ugly women? Cause they did not vote for your man crush... I will repeat the goal of the post for 100th time, this post is with the goal of dudes that are currently working out and getting in shape, to have some type of direction, or idea of what women want, not what other dudes with man crush want unless you are into picking up other dudes.

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I feel like no one is reading anyone else's posts. He said i was saying fat guys couldn't get hot women, which is not what i was saying. Zyzz is not my man crush, i in fact aim for the physique of brad pitt, who was in fact the highest rated. My point was that this article is not as decisive as you're making it out to be. In the "notes" section your talking about where they sample fit women, brad pitt went down and zane went up, showing self-identified athletes do actually do exactly what it is i am talking about... They prefer more fit men.

Even with the "fit women" section your talking about, the article still doesn't cut it. The entire WNBA is filled with horribly unattractive women who are at the peak of athletics, and i'm sure they would identify as athletes. No one gives a fuck about the opinions of HB 4s or 5s on their body. They care about the HB8+'s i'm talking about.

No matter what way you spin it, the article did not specifically poll hot women, and is therefore not the information that any man trying to get hot women could benefit from. His own common sense would tell him that more fit women would prefer more fit men if money or status was not a factor.

If it makes you feel any better, no article could possibly do what it is we need done, simply because it wouldn't be politically correct, and would be very difficult to find enough hot participants to be decisive enough to gain any knowledge from.

Lol - This shit is funny, I'm insecure, I'm not alpha... wow! You think I'm insecure? If I was insecure there wouldn't be videos all over the net... In fact I wouldn't even have mentioned it... The point was basic... fat guys
can get some very sexy chicks... Don't make this complicated bro by reading between the lines(wtf?).

Note: Read the Mating Mind, you may gain a new outlook when it comes to who would survive in the wild. I mean how well off do you think he'd be without roids, powders, etc.?

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^ i get mad when people talk crap about poetic looks, i have shown his videos to at least 3 different girls, they say the same thing, the dude, is charming, sexy, they say there is something about him,they love the way he talks and mannerisms, and for you guys that don't know women are attracted to certain teddy bear type look, i know couple of guys that do very well in clubs with the bouncer, boss, teddy bear looks.... Again and this is tight to subject matter, what dudes think about other dudes unless you are a homo is irrelevant. Our target market is women. And you guys can speculate all you want of why a dude gets women, but that is nothing more than kjoking on a subject matter.

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Dude, your post is on the male physique women find most attractive! None of my posts are saying that fat guys can't get hot women, i was saying that the article isn't some final judgement shit on the looks category. The entire game we learn and practice completely proves that less asthetic men can still get hot women.

My point, for the 3rd time, is that your article does not bring forth the specific desires of the majority of hot women. The hottest chick i know is dating some fat fuck who must have game up the ass, but that has jack of shit to do with your post.

Your post is about what ideal asthetics are, and it does not define what HB8+s want in a male physique. simple

that would be an impossibility a survey is a sample data.
Just like pick up which give you a % of provability of certain things working more than others, it is not an exact science... The same probably that body type that won according to women, give you a greater % probability of being aestheticly liked by women. How about you get each type of the bodies and field test them instead of hijacking my post...

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From a scientific evolutionary standpoint zyzz isn't actually a good specimen. Look at it from this point of view if we were in the wild he would likely die quickly... his 5% body fat in the wild would be a remarkable disadvantage... He is too muscular to be quick in the wild. His low body fat percentage isn't a sign of health but a sign of starvation(hence it not being attractive ding ding ding). HE DOES NOT MATCH AN ATTRACTIVE MATE FROM A SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT. He would starve in a short period of time this shit is hardwired into us, it's not like it's complicated bro... again stop fucking complicating it.

The most healthy of guys is attractive.... Guys like Zyzz are "fine physical specimens" but his body is not a sign of health, it's quite the opposite(death at an early age help proves my point). You need body fat that makes you a better mate...definitely not as much as me (I could stand to lose about 30 lbs more and am working on it) but the point is some body fat is more attractive than NO body fat.

Literally the body that was voted most attractive 100 years ago would not be agreed with today from a lot of people but that is the body women were attracted to for over a million years... Now all of sudden it's different because girls are hotter? LOL come on now... are you really going to be this irrational... what the media finds attractive is merely what they tell people to find attractive. On hardwired level from the view point of what is attractive isn't going to be a guy that looks like he is starving... lol shows you to be not only a bad hunter, but someone who isn't eating... hardly a valuable mate.

If you want to go fuck guys that look like zyzz then go ahead. I'm in to chicks, so I need to know what chicks want, and I can tell you as guy who's read shit load about attraction, evolution, sex, etc. not what I think is more attractive but what chicks actually want(yes this is what YOU think is more attractive).

NOTE: I've been at my pool in my complex and have had a RUNWAY MODEL PICK UP ON ME THAT WAS 6 FT TALL BLONDE.(I'm 5'7 and I was 20 lbs heavier) In short you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you keep saying this shit but honestly scientifically speaking YOU ARE WRONG.... hopefully that simplifies shit.

Your body language matters more than your physique as long as you aren't repulsively obese. This is something guys miss, body language shows yourself as a high value mate, not what you say. Talk your ass off.... Dude I've always been able to talk my ass off it never got me laid (well got me luck a couple of times)... Come on now.


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