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I hate these BS conversations, yeah you need to not be revoltingly ugly to get chicks but if you want a great example of someone who does pretty good with women but isn't a healthy specimen look at Sean Stephenson. That dude in person is huge even though you look down at him(often referred to as the 3 foot giant).

Midlife- LOL- You are so attractive and good with women that you came out on a forum to get better with women (you also have yet to offer anything good that I've seen). Getting laid has got shit to do with looks or every hot guy would be swimming in pussy, this isn't true so we know aesthetics are a limited way men can get laid. Physical attraction offers a lot of initial opportunities that can be ruined by a simple conversation.

Straight up- Looks don't get you laid, they help but certainly don't get you laid. There are plenty of examples of men who aren't that good looking pulling tons more tail than "hot guys." Guys who just know how to escalate, who just do it.

Women choose men based off how much they can give to their possible offspring.

Men choose women off the fact that they can hold and bring in healthy new offspring.

We are simply two different beings created for two different purposes.

It's pretty simple, we choose to "reproduce" for two different purposes based off of our purposes in the reproduction process. Get over it, women initially show interest in physically attractive men based off the possible healthy genetics he can give her possible offspring but the fact that the offspring wouldn't survive after or be cared for to survive after makes the possible mate useless. A woman will choose an ugly guy over a attractive guy because in reality the value of the "uglier" guy maybe far higher that the physically attractive (hot guy).

Why is this even an argument? You do "get lucky" by being good looking, however to consistently get laid you aren't just going to be attractive. One thing you HAVE TO HAVE to consistently get laid is sexual escalation and tension building skills.

A man's value is far more than his aesthetics (we are lucky), otherwise Bill Gates would have never got married, Sean Stephenson wouldn't have a successful dating life, should I have to find you all these unorthodox success stories or will you guys just realize getting laid and being attractive to women isn't all about your physical aesthetics.

Can we please put this silly conversation to rest? Honestly, being good looking does nothing but get you lucky occasionally.
Sad truth for hot guys
Inspiring truth for ugly guys


^ hahhaaha! That was the point of the post to inspire the ugly guys... Now i keep insisting if you are ugly try to become ATTRACTIVE...As i said when i met my current girlfriend she was not physically attracted to me, it was my displaying attractive qualities that made her fall in love...

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Many times the reason how come woman will date fat men is because the fat men display confidence and actually approach the cute chick. Many fat guys I know display high confidence and outcome independence which is extremely attractive to any woman

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That came across pretty well, I think I may reform it a little and blog it.... Along with the love and quote of izumi. I'll have it up in the next few days.

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hey guys this is the pump man looks theory he is right on the money:

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awesome man, another looks thread, must be looks week or something

it's not so much that they are less shallow, it is that looks don't turn them on the same way they turn us on, so they are less ''visual'' in mate selection, this does not disqualify looks as a deciding factor in mate selection

infact, in one way girls are far more shallow then guys because they are much more picky, looks matter, as does everything else to them, but the thing is they find other things more important then we do, a girls primary motive when choosing a partner, is not looks nessicarily, it will be based on her value system and what she values will be subjective, but to simply girls are attracted to status, not looks (your status in relation to other men), but looks will easily make or break you and have a direct link to your status in relation to other men, don't get this confused with social status, although social/economic status has a direct link to your over status as well, when I am reffering to status, it is just status (the position of an individual in relation to another or others), looks will make or break you with a girl, just like they will for a guy, this is something that seems to go over alot of guys heads in all the many ''looks'' threads that go up, you have to at least pass the ''fuckable'' mark for a girl to be interested, if you don't, no amount of game will gain you compliance (unless you are a rapist, don't be a rapist), but there is no look that will universally shut you out, and no look that will universally give you an in, no matter what you look like, you can get girls, and not going after girls because you are ''not good looking enough'' is a giant waste, no matter what you look like, there will be plenty of girls in the world that find you physically attractive enough to sleep with

looks do not create ''initial attraction'' that eventually fades, this is such a bullshit theory, looks are a very constant variable, physical attraction remains as long as your physique remains, but being good looking alone absolutely does not = laid, girls are too picky for that to be the case, some girls will just fuck you because of looks, but that is the exception, not the rule, in the same way some girls will have a fetish for guys that are not ''classically attractive'', either way a guy who is not confident is not going to be getting laid consitantly, and guy who is very confident, most likely will be, reguardless of looks, if the ugly dude with confidence doesn't get laid, he tries, tries, tries again until he gets what he was looking for, because he is sure of what he wants, and he is sure he can do it and failure is not the concern, success is, if the good looking guy goes out who is unconfident, he will go give it a half assed shot, maybe turn a girl off because he seems like he would be annoying to hang out with, and he won't try again, because he is not sure it will work out for him, and he is more concerned about the failure, then the success, because he is not sure what he wants enough to the point he can believe in himself

not only this but a girl's physical preference changes from masculine looking guys to femanine looking guys depending on their cycle, and looks are far more subjective to girls then they are to men (more universal for men), there have been many studies done to prove that varying girls have much wider preferences in their ideals of what makes a guy physically attractive, but there are common traits that seem to remain constant (facial/body symmetry, waist to chest ratio, height and posture, dick size, hairyness (depending on body type), skin colour (there is a male preference for fairer skin, but it has actually been shown that there are links between darker skin and higher levels of testosterone, thus having a nice tan or a glow to your skin is a bonus)

girls are less visual when it comes to being turned on, and more aroused through the anticipation of sex as well as her emotional state, when she is thinking about sex, she gets wet, rather then when she sees a hot dude she pops a girl boner, not quite, a guy she doesn't find particularily attractive can make her horny, but if he doesn't meet the minimum requirements to ride this ride, she isn't going to let him stand in line (or at least she will make it much harder for him to stand in line), and girls will often resist and remove themselves from situations that they would rather not be in, because they are aware of how susceptible they can be to their emotions

in this way, it is often misconstued that it is one extreme or the other, it is not so black an white, looks do matter, but women are caught between selecting a mate with good genetics, and a mate who can provide and protect her offspring, they are the more selective sex, it is not one or the other, it is both, and often women will end up with a guy who is not considered model georgous but rather average looking, but who demonstrates alot of other qualities that she finds attractive in a mate, this doesn't mean that she finds him physically unattractive, quite the contrary, the only point is that physical attraction does not overshadow everything for a girl as it would for a guy and if you are a great person and just pass that fuckable mark, you will probably do better then a guy who is a terrible person but has some good looks

this might seem sort of hard to get your head around, but it's your status as a whole that girls will select you for, not looks alone, it's how important you are compared to other men, and when you are confident and you have social status as well as the looks, it can lead you to believe that looks are all that matter, because the attractive personality traits don't come to your mind as the desciding factor, as they are just natural for you and leading and everything else after a certain point just all seems like common sense, but plenty of good looking guys who don't share the same skillsets and personality as well as ability to generate social status will tell you that looks don't matter at all because they are frustrated, they just don't realize how much harder it would be for them to get compliance if they were worse off, just like guys lacking physical attributes will try to rationalize that looks don't matter so that they can find more self esteem to give them a reason to continue meeting women, but really this will just hurt their ability level when trying to get girls, because looks do matter and they should do everything they can to improve their current situation to improve their overall level of success, I like to sum up this whole thing with the basic thought, girls are just like guys, except they have vaginas and asd, and won't sleep with you usually unless they like you and you make it happen (handle the asd), but a guy with balls will almost always outscore a guy without because he can cash out on people that are investing in him, the more ''value'' you have going for you in all aspects of your life, the more those around you will want to invest in your life, and value is subjective, and just because those around you are investing due to finding value in you, does not mean you will know how to cash out

it could even be said that for women it is 20% looks, and 80% personality, and guys consider 80% looks and 20% personality, the only problem with saying this, is it is mis-leading, guys misconstrue the concept to mean looks mean alot less to girls, when in reality it is just personality means alot more for girls, on top of looks, so in a way this concept is pretty bang on, and in another it also misses the mark completely when mis-interpreted

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and if Pumpington says something it must be supported by science and a multitude of studies.

Ill bet any of you stooges 1k ill get the woman before you do in a live setting.

Dont you guys ever get tired of pretending to be PUA's?

Some of u have been here forever. Move on.


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and if Pumpington says something it must be supported by science and a multitude of studies.

Ill bet any of you stooges 1k ill get the woman before you do in a live setting.

Dont you guys ever get tired of pretending to be PUA's?

Some of u have been here forever. Move on.

I will take the bet, and i even double the money... How are we gonna do this??? How you want to set it up, we can put the money on escrow... Pm me lets do this... Would be the easiest 1k i will make... I saw a preview on what to expect here, clown:


1-vt139849.html?start=0

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and if Pumpington says something it must be supported by science and a multitude of studies.

Ill bet any of you stooges 1k ill get the woman before you do in a live setting.

Dont you guys ever get tired of pretending to be PUA's?

Some of u have been here forever. Move on.

I will take the bet, and i even double the money... How are we gonna do this??? How you want to set it up, we can put the money on escrow... Pm me lets do this... Would be the easiest 1k i will make... I saw a preview on what to expect here, clown:


1-vt139849.html?start=0
LOL - Beat me to it bro.... I'd love to make an easy 1k, lets go to a neutral spot.

Meet me half way, where ever.

I'll bet he's all talk. Would be so worth it.... LOL....Easy Money.

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Everything matters. Looks, personality, etc.
You guys are just putting some portions at a much higher percentage than they truly are

also it varies with girls

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and if Pumpington says something it must be supported by science and a multitude of studies.

Ill bet any of you stooges 1k ill get the woman before you do in a live setting.

Dont you guys ever get tired of pretending to be PUA's?

Some of u have been here forever. Move on.

I will take the bet, and i even double the money... How are we gonna do this??? How you want to set it up, we can put the money on escrow... Pm me lets do this... Would be the easiest 1k i will make... I saw a preview on what to expect here, clown:


1-vt139849.html?start=0
First of all, was playing around u idiot. Secondly, it's the TEXT you writ eon forums or blogs that makes you an expert? I thought it was actually doing it

Im sure there are plenty of people who have all the info memorized and all the theory down, and still cant pick up women live.


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and if Pumpington says something it must be supported by science and a multitude of studies.

Ill bet any of you stooges 1k ill get the woman before you do in a live setting.

Dont you guys ever get tired of pretending to be PUA's?

Some of u have been here forever. Move on.

I will take the bet, and i even double the money... How are we gonna do this??? How you want to set it up, we can put the money on escrow... Pm me lets do this... Would be the easiest 1k i will make... I saw a preview on what to expect here, clown:


1-vt139849.html?start=0
LOL - Beat me to it bro.... I'd love to make an easy 1k, lets go to a neutral spot.

Meet me half way, where ever.

I'll bet he's all talk. Would be so worth it.... LOL....Easy Money.
UUUUUU, UUUUUU, wouldnt be all talk now would you?


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I will take the bet, and i even double the money... How are we gonna do this??? How you want to set it up, we can put the money on escrow... Pm me lets do this... Would be the easiest 1k i will make... I saw a preview on what to expect here, clown:


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LOL - Beat me to it bro.... I'd love to make an easy 1k, lets go to a neutral spot.

Meet me half way, where ever.

I'll bet he's all talk. Would be so worth it.... LOL....Easy Money.
UUUUUU, UUUUUU, wouldnt be all talk now would you?

Na, where do you want to meet? Show me the 1k, it would be easy money.

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LOL - Beat me to it bro.... I'd love to make an easy 1k, lets go to a neutral spot.

Meet me half way, where ever.

I'll bet he's all talk. Would be so worth it.... LOL....Easy Money.
UUUUUU, UUUUUU, wouldnt be all talk now would you?

Na, where do you want to meet? Show me the 1k, it would be easy money.
it's not just your money you'll be losing. U wont be able to come here anymore, cause I will be beating my chest as the top alpha male on the forum.

and it will be known that i kicked your ass in the field.

but if U still want to do it, take out a loan for the 1k, and make sure u get the best interest rate you can get.

Can it get any easier for me? 8)


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Na, where do you want to meet? Show me the 1k, it would be easy money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRpTjr4L4T4 :D
Yeah just say as few words as possible. u dont want to end up losing too.


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UUUUUU, UUUUUU, wouldnt be all talk now would you?

Na, where do you want to meet? Show me the 1k, it would be easy money.
it's not just your money you'll be losing. U wont be able to come here anymore, cause I will be beating my chest as the top alpha male on the forum.

and it will be known that i kicked your ass in the field.

but if U still want to do it, take out a loan for the 1k, and make sure u get the best interest rate you can get.

Can it get any easier for me? 8)
I'm in, neutral spot (you can't pay some woman to meet you and deny me). We decide on a location. We meet, and we decide on a bar together. We leave our phones at the room.

I'm not the richest but for this easy a money why the fuck not. I'm fearless on this one dude. I don't think you realize how confident I am, how good I am, and how easy this is for me. Also based off of all the bull shit I read of yours I'm certainly down. I'm always down for easy fucken (literally in this case) money.

I'm not a girl a day guy by choice, every time I go out with the intention of getting laid, kiss, phone number, I do it (the last 3 times I left early from the bar with phone numbers, got laid once, and kiss close another). Can you say the same?

LOL- I won't be able to come here if you out game me? Why? Because you out gamed one night in a bar? Like I give a fuck....

Show the money, don't worry about me dude, I'll be covered.

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