Dude, you're misunderstanding me.... if she's saying she's got a bf... that's a bad sign.

You have to get her off her guard before you can blast through the shield.

It has happened to me, and if a guy calls me out on it RIGHT away without redirecting his approach and making my guard come down... I will bitch shield him out of my face.

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Zip,

What is your favorite method? Why? Have you met any of the so called gurus? On a lighter note, you are on your death bed... what is your last meal?

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Zip,

What is the difference between "cute", "handsome", and "hottie"?

My favorite method to study and discuss is MM because of the evolutionary theories. I also like to question it a bit. It's a point of interest for me. However, NLP is extremely intriguing to delve in to. Favorite method to practice.... I'm a girl. I'm using my natural ability mixed with pieces of different methodologies tied together (Hypnotica has been incredibly influential on my inner game.)

When I'm teaching... it is whatever I think works well for the guy. I tailor it.

As for who I've met. I've either met or been contacted through email by the top two pug's. You know, the ones every one talks about. Bla bla bla.

Last meal? Meat.

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cute: The guy either has that all-american look or he's got some good features. He better have a decent personality.

handsome: A more mature look. Good looking.

hottie: Salivation happens as a result of looking at him.

On the Hot Guy scale:

HG 6-7: Cute
HG 7-8.5: Handsome
HG 8.5-10: Hottie

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By the way: Thank you for the rep points, guys. I'm glad you're enjoying this thread!

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Lol, thanks zip, sorry for misunderstanding...

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Dude, I wasn't clear the first time. No apologizing! Be alpha!

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I try to be but i grew up in a house full of women..

How should I talk to a girl and gain comfort one thing for me if that its hard for me to build comfort with a girl, that i just met. Talking to her is ez, but building comfort is a feat all in itself. any advice

Oh and another thing which happened to me in high school.

Once I was at track practice, tossing the medicine ball around and a few babes came up and one of them caught my eye, now lemme explain at least once a year I kiss a girl which is very poor I may add. I was 17 at the time this happened

So immediately, I ask the girl.. "Can I kiss you". This girl says why but it wasnt in a negative manner it was more in a way of why you want to kiss me. Then I said because i just want to.. honestly i dont remember how I did this, but if I can remember how was I acting in that moment I was very confident that I was gonna kiss her and I think she read that off me, so sonner or later maybe like 10mins we are lip locking on the baseball field..

before this happened I belive I said some in the nature of "I just want to kiss you" anywayz.. the detail is very blur. Ive never done that again that was the first and only time that has happend... man, who was I that day !!!

I know I was confident, sincere and dang near handsome, but i fail to see how I succeeded in my intentions with her and actually follow thru and get the kiss.

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I question the "cute" rating a bit. I've heard girls say "he's really really cute!" Why say that about somebody who's merely a 6 or a 7? Seems a bit much. Most people I know say "he's ok" or "she's ok" on that scale portion. I don't refer to HB 6-7 as cute..lol I usually say..."she's meh"..lol

Does a good body boost those numbers up? Let's say if HG6-7 has a incredible body, does he get boosted up in the HG-8.5-10 zone? Reason I ask is I've seen some ugly guys(or least girls told me they were ugly from neck up) with an incredible body that had HB 9's running after them constantly.

I'll use the example, my old work out partner had an incredible body. Most girls said he was fine from the neck down. (had a crooked nose from it being broken)

What would you rate him?

Darling: if a girl says "he's cute" it means he's not the best looking dude but good looking enough but redeemable. This is a fact that I'm comfortable with putting reputation on the line for. Plus, your HB scale is a bit harsh/inflated, comparably. HB 6.5 is cute. Not hot, cute. If you're saying "meh" to HB7s, dude, that's great. You are obviously on your way to PUGism. I shy away in your presence for my own HB rating surely couldn't be non-meh enough to even look you in the eyes!

Excellent point about the body. I'd say this guy is an HG 7 plus. I always rate the face numerically, and then add plus after to indicate he's got a rockin' bod. This is only what I do, but then again, I haven't yet seen other girls use the HG rating system at all. (of course this entire conversation is using the HB/HG scale as a rating for peers, not how I would calibrate my approach.)

The reason HB9's are going after these guys is because they are hard to get. They work hard so that they can "deserve" an upper echelon of women.

I'd guess in general, the body obviously bumps up the HG rating a bit as far as describing him on looks alone. Where the boost really matters is in how the girl would calibrate her attack on this guy. He's still an HG 7... but I'd calibrate him like an HG 9.

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I generally get the "handsome" portion of the deal..lol

My scale isn't harsh, I just know the type of women I should be able to attract. One of my friends sees this girl who he says is a 7.5, and there is no way I see her on that level. Beyond alcohol or being extremely horny and desperate, there is no way I am remotely attracted towards her.

I should say I say "meh" to girls that are below 7, but that doesn't mean I don't go out or wouldn't date somebody between the 7-8 scale. But what I think is an 8, another guy might think is a 3, so and visa versa. Looks are truly in the eyes of the beholder.

I've got a few... Feel free to answer one now and the rest later. They
are all somewhat related though.

1. What is your definition of "persistence" and at what point with a guy
does it become more than that for you? "More" being overbearing or
annoying.

2. I've heard that girls actually want to chase/pursue guys, but most
guys just won't lay back and allow it to happen. Why do you think
this is true/untrue?

3. If you agree with Q number 2, then why will a girl rarely call a guy first?

4. What, if anything goes through your mind when A: A guy invites you
out on a weekday? and B: When a guy invites you out on a weekend?

Zip im not getting this? What you said earlier, is it a good thing or a bad thing!?

and ofcourse you should never bite the hand that feeds you but you can always be playful

Alright one thing I've noticed with girls in sets is that if you aren't careful sometimes you can be claimed by girls in the group. If your dealing with a group of girls that are extremely close friends. I've had this happen to me which makes it extremely difficult to get to your target. I wanted to see what your thoughts are on girls claiming you when you're not into them sexually?

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