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No offense to that dude, sasha but he put me too sleep is that what is consider a mpua, i am in the wrong biz, i need to make some money with this shit...

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If the numbers flake then you are not staying in set long enough... talk with the chicks at least 15 minutes, make a real connection. Don't jump on for the number too fast... if you really connect with the girl and spend 15-20 minutes talking with them, they won't flake on you.
I agree.. but the thing is, one of us has to go to class.. or i'm headed off to work. So usually they only last about 3-5 minutes. But a couple have been just sitting there, and i'll talk for well over 10 minutes before I leave. I've been late to class a couple of times because of this, :D
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No offense to that dude, sasha but he put me too sleep is that what is consider a mpua, i am in the wrong biz, i need to make some money with this shit...
A lot of you are hating on Sasha, but he is incredibly direct and doesn't deal with time wasters. Girls who just want to be friends. Also, he is approaching very gorgeous women (not just cute) while remaining stable as a rock... he's not nervous at all. That's huge.

he may be really weird, goofy, and a bit creepy (direct), but at least he has these videos for us to watch. Cant really hate without any of my own.

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Damn, Sasha game is weak. Not slick at all.


I mean sashas game is soooooooooooooooooooo freaking weak omg! i am sorry, body language horrible, approach horrible, opening horrible, sense of humor horrible, jokes horrible, close horrible..

This is one of the most pathetic displays of game that i have ever seen...

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Tasty i am not trying to be a dick, but dude, honestly look for another role model, this dude has no game whatsoever, this is pathetic, i am sorry!!!!!! He does not even dress right, he is body is not right, nothing and i mean nothing about his game is good... nothing sorry! this is how game should look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tS4JgBbNBE

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Yep, it is all in your head..girls will always be girls and women will always be women, no matter the time of day

however they both require different kinds of calibration. daygame is less sexual and physical, where night game you are allowed to get away with groping her and doing all kinds of quick escalation that would be harder during day game. call it a limiting belief, but show me a video at the mall during the day where you are touching her butt within 1-2 min and making out in 5. SHOW ME!

I think daygame is easier to get sets to hook, but harder to get physical and make outs. Night game is great because sex is in the air and you can take her back to your place. During the day, people are busy, but you can still be social and just build social momentum while flirting with girls. Then by the time night time falls, you are in the mode, and have been the past 5 hours, so when you go out you can beast it.

A little update on what has happened to me.. I have been getting 1-3 numbers per day over the past 1 or 2 weeks. Well, I hung out with one of them, we played badminton at the gym together, but she has a BF. i got a little physical but i'm not really feeling it. The other numbers i got (around 90% success rate for getting numbers) either flake or just didn't show much interest.

This is where Munroe mentioned that I try to NOT get the number because I think I am being outcome dependent. I'm on a college campus so the game cant be as quick or direct. Social power is most dominant. Also, "time bridging" by Mystery is where you plan to do an activity with her in the future, so that getting the number becomes the afterthought and not the main objective.

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when you realize how good you can really be is where I am at right now.
I have had some success, a few make outs, a few SNL's, lots of numbers and drinking.... but now I'm to the point where when I do *not* approach a girl who is very approachable (cute and alone), I beat myself up and ruminate about it during the day. Ill think about it a few times, and it doesn't feel good. So now *everytime* I see an approachable girl I talk to her... and it always ends up leading to a short conversation (again, daygame is easy to just chat)

similar to the 3 second rule.. approaching just becomes automatic. Almost as if you are "showing off" how easy it is for you to open a cute random girl. That sounds bad but it just feels good.
Hey man,

If the numbers flake then you are not staying in set long enough... talk with the chicks at least 15 minutes, make a real connection. Don't jump on for the number too fast... if you really connect with the girl and spend 15-20 minutes talking with them, they won't flake on you.
I don't believe that talking more will help.

The more you talk, the more chance you'll fuck up.

The less you talk, the more qualities will be filled up by her ideal view on a man.

Like Vin Dicarlo and Paul Janka view on #closes. The #closes in less than 2 minutes have less flakes than anything more.
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Yep, it is all in your head..girls will always be girls and women will always be women, no matter the time of day

however they both require different kinds of calibration. daygame is less sexual and physical, where night game you are allowed to get away with groping her and doing all kinds of quick escalation that would be harder during day game. call it a limiting belief, but show me a video at the mall during the day where you are touching her butt within 1-2 min and making out in 5. SHOW ME!

I think daygame is easier to get sets to hook, but harder to get physical and make outs. Night game is great because sex is in the air and you can take her back to your place. During the day, people are busy, but you can still be social and just build social momentum while flirting with girls. Then by the time night time falls, you are in the mode, and have been the past 5 hours, so when you go out you can beast it.

A little update on what has happened to me.. I have been getting 1-3 numbers per day over the past 1 or 2 weeks. Well, I hung out with one of them, we played badminton at the gym together, but she has a BF. i got a little physical but i'm not really feeling it. The other numbers i got (around 90% success rate for getting numbers) either flake or just didn't show much interest.

This is where Munroe mentioned that I try to NOT get the number because I think I am being outcome dependent. I'm on a college campus so the game cant be as quick or direct. Social power is most dominant. Also, "time bridging" by Mystery is where you plan to do an activity with her in the future, so that getting the number becomes the afterthought and not the main objective.

side note on approaching

when you realize how good you can really be is where I am at right now.
I have had some success, a few make outs, a few SNL's, lots of numbers and drinking.... but now I'm to the point where when I do *not* approach a girl who is very approachable (cute and alone), I beat myself up and ruminate about it during the day. Ill think about it a few times, and it doesn't feel good. So now *everytime* I see an approachable girl I talk to her... and it always ends up leading to a short conversation (again, daygame is easy to just chat)

similar to the 3 second rule.. approaching just becomes automatic. Almost as if you are "showing off" how easy it is for you to open a cute random girl. That sounds bad but it just feels good.
Hey man,

If the numbers flake then you are not staying in set long enough... talk with the chicks at least 15 minutes, make a real connection. Don't jump on for the number too fast... if you really connect with the girl and spend 15-20 minutes talking with them, they won't flake on you.
I don't believe that talking more will help.

The more you talk, the more chance you'll fuck up.

The less you talk, the more qualities will be filled up by her ideal view on a man.

Like Vin Dicarlo and Paul Janka view on #closes. The #closes in less than 2 minutes have less flakes than anything more.
I don't buy it but it MIGHT be true for clubs / bars / night game. It's logical that people would just exchange numbers and go back to hang with their friends... but in day game, if you take a number in 2-3 minutes it's like "WTF was that?" and "who is that guy?!" and if you'll fuck it up with a chick in 4 minutes, you will fuck it up later anyway... you should practice staying in set longer.
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i stay in for like 30 minutes... sometimes even longer...
if there is attraction but somehow i get inside my head too much i kiss close .. at this point i don't care if it's 5 minutes or a hour.

it depends where you are gaming for ... if you just want to get laid yes you might as well seek out 2 sets and just kiss close them ASAP...
if you want a girlfriend or if you want to train your social skills you are better of staying in for a longer period of time... asking waypoints , preselection, qualifying..

i think you need to get both...i can be the social 1 on 1 guy for hours...but im born with the ''impulsive i don't care what the f*ck just do it attitude ''.

Im not saying i do as much or more approaches like sasha.. im not saying he totally sucks...i don't care about how he dresses. to me it looks like he gets numbers because people are uncomfortable and they just want to get away - he intrudes someones personal space way too quick. Talks too fast , is almost posing/standing static in some cases, he asks about hugs and that kind of shit - asking other people to invade his personal space.

maybe he is very good in teaching people pua... i really don't know him but his game isn't really that good. Personally i think his game would get destroyed in nightgame bars and clubs....just because of the body language - but hey who cares that can be learned in a few minutes.

above all .. he does have balls.. that is one primary trait i do prefer in men and woman.. i have nothing bad to say about the man because he does approach and he does what he want to do.

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I don't buy it but it MIGHT be true for clubs / bars / night game. It's logical that people would just exchange numbers and go back to hang with their friends... but in day game, if you take a number in 2-3 minutes it's like "WTF was that?" and "who is that guy?!" and if you'll fuck it up with a chick in 4 minutes, you will fuck it up later anyway... you should practice staying in set longer.
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i stay in for like 30 minutes... sometimes even longer...
if there is attraction but somehow i get inside my head too much i kiss close .. at this point i don't care if it's 5 minutes or a hour.

it depends where you are gaming for ... if you just want to get laid yes you might as well seek out 2 sets and just kiss close them ASAP...
if you want a girlfriend or if you want to train your social skills you are better of staying in for a longer period of time... asking waypoints , preselection, qualifying..

i think you need to get both...i can be the social 1 on 1 guy for hours...but im born with the ''impulsive i don't care what the f*ck just do it attitude ''.

Im not saying i do as much or more approaches like sasha.. im not saying he totally sucks...i don't care about how he dresses. to me it looks like he gets numbers because people are uncomfortable and they just want to get away - he intrudes someones personal space way too quick. Talks too fast , is almost posing/standing static in some cases, he asks about hugs and that kind of shit - asking other people to invade his personal space.

maybe he is very good in teaching people pua... i really don't know him but his game isn't really that good. Personally i think his game would get destroyed in nightgame bars and clubs....just because of the body language - but hey who cares that can be learned in a few minutes.

above all .. he does have balls.. that is one primary trait i do prefer in men and woman.. i have nothing bad to say about the man because he does approach and he does what he want to do.

you guys are totally right. I think i'm giving off the vibe that I just want the number, and is probably kind of creepy. I'm going to try to NOT get the number, just build social momentum and have a good chat. Also will mess around with time bridging, so that I can get the girl to hint that she wants to hang out rather than me being needy for the number.

now it's going to be purely self amusement, a little less rapport interview mode, more banter and vibing. sprinkle in some qualification/disqualification (push/pull) and such.

my most successful approaches or interactions are those where i'm "in state" and having a truly good time.

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i always found daygame way easier too.

But it's harder to escalade though.
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i always found daygame way easier too.

But it's harder to escalade though.

Exactly, night game bitch shield on steroids, but you escalate easier, day game chances of escalation minimal to none...

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I'm going to try to NOT get the number
no now you are trying to not to get her number..
just forget about teh whole number... yes or no are both 2 things...
be formless .. don't think about it...

I NEVER ask girls their numbers unless she is leaving the venue...from the 20 girls i ask only like 1 or 2 girls for their number. Numbers are useless anyway, attraction is more important.

Focus on vibing and having fun...that will work

nightgame is just harder .. you have to be more ruthless because it's a hard enviroment... you have to be cocky and able to not give a shit otherwise it will drain all your energy. You get way more resistence and dealing with the hard side of humans is common.. you will run into many idiots and cheating sluts during night game and yes .. most people in a bar are not often the best kind of people.

the hot 10's you meet during day will probably tell you to fuckoff during nightgame.

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You stay in set 30 minutes in daygame?

That's way too long, I stay in like 5 minutes at the most.
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You stay in set 30 minutes in daygame?

That's way too long, I stay in like 5 minutes at the most.
yeah but it's more likely you will get flaked...IF you spike alot of emotions you generate more attraction.
emotions + time = Amount of Attachement... meaning you increase your value and comfort.

she will be less likely to flake because you have created more comfort
im not going out for numbers .. im going out to have fun, improve my skills and inner game, and to meet the woman of my dreams ( don't see that happening in a bar lol .. but still .. you never know ). Numbers don't mean shit...i rather ask their hotmail or other chat medium because it's easier to have a straightforward conversation into a day2...phone game and texting is too slow for me, they either don't pickup or don't remember you.

on internet you at least can get some quick interaction going.

if some woman gives me her number in like a 5 minute interaction... im not going to date that woman. I didn't do anything to deserve this date, i have no comfort or familiarity at all...Why would i pickup a phone call from someone who i only met for 5 minutes , someone who i don't even know ?

if you can stay into a interaction for like 30 minutes without her losing attraction you can probably kiss close her or fuck her... you have a reliable interaction going. 5 minutes doesn't mean shit...you probably have to game her all over again like you are in the opening phase. numbers do not mean shit...the truth be told i have never asked a number from a girl which i hooked up with. It's all long term gaming with internet game into a 2nd day...

5 minutes are nothing...you are either good with yourself and woman or you are good in getting a unreliable number. Do you game woman or do you game the phone ?

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I think generally he's pretty good, i like how direct his game is, his approaches suck a lot of the time however cos i feel he nearly loses his sets too many times when he's says "It's ok! I'm not crazy!".
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You stay in set 30 minutes in daygame?

That's way too long, I stay in like 5 minutes at the most.
yeah but it's more likely you will get flaked...IF you spike alot of emotions you generate more attraction.
emotions + time = Amount of Attachement... meaning you increase your value and comfort.

she will be less likely to flake because you have created more comfort
im not going out for numbers .. im going out to have fun, improve my skills and inner game, and to meet the woman of my dreams ( don't see that happening in a bar lol .. but still .. you never know ). Numbers don't mean shit...i rather ask their hotmail or other chat medium because it's easier to have a straightforward conversation into a day2...phone game and texting is too slow for me, they either don't pickup or don't remember you.

on internet you at least can get some quick interaction going.

if some woman gives me her number in like a 5 minute interaction... im not going to date that woman. I didn't do anything to deserve this date, i have no comfort or familiarity at all...Why would i pickup a phone call from someone who i only met for 5 minutes , someone who i don't even know ?

if you can stay into a interaction for like 30 minutes without her losing attraction you can probably kiss close her or fuck her... you have a reliable interaction going. 5 minutes doesn't mean shit...you probably have to game her all over again like you are in the opening phase. numbers do not mean shit...the truth be told i have never asked a number from a girl which i hooked up with. It's all long term gaming with internet game into a 2nd day...

5 minutes are nothing...you are either good with yourself and woman or you are good in getting a unreliable number. Do you game woman or do you game the phone ?
I don't believe you can fuck a girl after talking to her for 30 minutes in the day time.

If I can NC a girl within 5 minutes, still get dates, and still get laid, if anything I'm just being more efficient with my time. I don't have time, and I don't want to make time to talk to one girl for a half an hour when I'm on my lunch hour, off to chill with a friend, etc.

Everybody still comes across flakes once in a while, but that can and will happen if you've been talking to her for 1 or 60 minutes of the first interaction.
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