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@PUAKing Now,they seem to be saying I am intimidating.
No physical resistance though they just say it.
I should just not mind them/keep the conversation or just keep quiet and lock eye contact+triangular gaze?
Yeah. If she gives you physical resistance then she thinks you're a creep. If it's verbal, fuck it! You live once... go in for the kill!
Alright,thanks a lot for the tip but I am not sure if that "Yeah." was directed at keep the conversation/pretend she didn't say anything or just keep quiet and lock eye contact+triangular gaze?


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Yeah. If she gives you physical resistance then she thinks you're a creep. If it's verbal, fuck it! You live once... go in for the kill!
better rule of thumb: if she says NO and STAYS its resistance and you should keep going. if she says NO and LEAVES its rejection.


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Yeah. If she gives you physical resistance then she thinks you're a creep. If it's verbal, fuck it! You live once... go in for the kill!
better rule of thumb: if she says NO and STAYS its resistance and you should keep going. if she says NO and LEAVES its rejection.
Hence why I said physical resistance.

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It’s the 2nd Try, Not The 1st

How crushed does a guy look after he gets the courage to make an overt escalation (ie. going for a kiss) and she turns her face away? Usually he is so hurt he gives up and
never tries again.

1st Time: Assume Failure

The first time I make an overt “it’s on” escalation (O-IOE) like putting out my hand or
grabbing her hand I just assume it’s not going to work. I figure she is probably going to
pull her hand away quickly or simply not comply. Same thing if I go for a kiss instead. I
fully expect her to turn away on the first try.

But I don’t care if she turns her cheek because the point of the first escalation wasn’t for it to succeed. It was only to show her that I am confident and go for what I want. Escalation is attractive. If I create an it’s on moment on the first try I consider it a bonus.
I don't know which book you got this from(because I stopped after reading Anti-manifesto) but this is great point of view. I guess I'll look at 60's staff. I expect that i'll use it the wway I use GWM. Cut most of it, but keep useful minimum. I guess that's the way it was supposed to be. Still loking for some good daygame-oriented book.


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I have already read 60yoc's stuff awhile back and rereading it now I still can't seem to find my question's answer.Maybe someone could help me on it?


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Your assuming that attraction for men and women works the same way, it doesn't.
While I agree that women's attraction is different to men's, as in not purely based on looks, I also agree with the idea that you can't build it - that women need at least a little initial interest for you to stand a chance of ever having sex with them. Many women say that they decide within the first 10 minutes of meeting you whether they would ever have sex with you or not. Even though there may be a few tactics that will swing things in your favour (maybe she can gain something by fucking you such as popularity or money) it's really hard to build that from 0 interest. It also explains why even the top guys get rejected.
nobody is talking about getting ANY girl. We are talking about increasing your chances.
Sexual tension increases attraction/builds it.


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While I agree that women's attraction is different to men's, as in not purely based on looks, I also agree with the idea that you can't build it - that women need at least a little initial interest for you to stand a chance of ever having sex with them. Many women say that they decide within the first 10 minutes of meeting you whether they would ever have sex with you or not. Even though there may be a few tactics that will swing things in your favour (maybe she can gain something by fucking you such as popularity or money) it's really hard to build that from 0 interest. It also explains why even the top guys get rejected.
nobody is talking about getting ANY girl. We are talking about increasing your chances.
Sexual tension increases attraction/builds it.
Very true, not only that (and forgive if any of this is noted before cause I didn't read the whole thread), but 60s method is basically going back to the basics and stripping all the bullshit away.

He says have a blank stare, but what he means is listen to the woman seductively without too much head nodding... of course you can go: "Yea.." and nod every once in a while, but because when you say give a blank stare and people try it they will automatically nod and agree anyway, so he says give a blank stare (pokerface) so that people really REALLY try and hold it.

Also you can be fun and social with everyone in the club, but the girl you want to seduce is the one you want to escalate the vibe with. (My view on escalating the vibe is basically thinking about doing her in the ass while talking about bullshit, when thinking this stuff you'll automatically do all the things 60 says, this is what builds the sexual tension, the pauses, the being close in proximity, etc)

You can't get EVERY girl, 60s method is about finding a girl that's interested and escalating like crazy on her. And if she at any point objects THAT's when you start setting sexual frames and getting her comfortable with sex and basically doing your normal game.


EDIT: I noticed I went way off topic haha, sry man.. don't really have experience with 60s in daygame, so won't comment on that.

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So you can use sexual tension for daygame but just in small amounts?

What is the best way method for daygame then?

If you just water down 60's method...talk more, be more funny and sociable and don't blank stare as much or for as long...then would this work for daygame?

Even tho it would be weird to escalate so quickly in daygame, or stare seductively (because she is more consious of ppl around her) I still like the mentally that 60's method gives you.

The mentality of opening to screen girls rather than to attract them, to realise that you dont have to do much if there is already attraction there etc. all make me feel and act more like I am the shit.


Also, one thing that I get from methods like 60 is that the more awkward of a situation you put yourself in (to a limit, obviously) without being bothered by the awkwardness, the mor confident and attractive you look. Which is why daygame works well (most guys dont have the balls to approach during the day, so if you do you immediately look confident and attractive).

Now I am more likely to do something really daring because I know that if I do it and dont look nervous, then it is very attractive.

I pussied out of approaching a hot girl during the day the otherday. She was sitting down reading a magazine with a bag next to her and I thought "its gonna seem weird if I ask her to move her bag to sit down...there are other seats." But perhaps by doing this when no other dude has got the bottle to, I would immediately make me seem very attractive (as long as I dont seem embarrassed by what I did). maybe I'd have to also say that she's georgeous too so she's not wondering why i sat there.


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Also, one thing that I get from methods like 60 is that the more awkward of a situation you put yourself in (to a limit, obviously) without being bothered by the awkwardness, the mor confident and attractive you look. Which is why daygame works well (most guys dont have the balls to approach during the day, so if you do you immediately look confident and attractive).
makes a whole lot of sense

I hate to ask a stupid question, but what exactly is the triangle stare? I thought I read about it somewhere else, but I can't find it again.

It also reminded me of something my friend used to do (even after lampshading it). He'd look at my ear when I talked, and it was gives the weirdest feeling because I knew he was listening but it made me feel like something was sneaking up on me. Just a note on how not to creep people out.


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I think triangle stare is when you constantly switch your gaze between each of their eyes and mouth as they are talking. It shows your listening I think and ppl tend to do it more when they're attracted to someone, so I think its a non-verbal way of showing your interest. I seem to do it naturally when Im really listening to someone or when im talking to someone attractive.


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I think triangle stare is when you constantly switch your gaze between each of their eyes and mouth as they are talking. It shows your listening I think and ppl tend to do it more when they're attracted to someone, so I think its a non-verbal way of showing your interest. I seem to do it naturally when Im really listening to someone or when im talking to someone attractive.
The stare is correct, switching from eye to eye to mouth. It's what girls do when they want to kiss you.... they will look at your mouth. The same reason as to why we're doing it.... we're saying: "uh huh, I'm listening, but all I'm really thinking about is kissing you", non-verbally of course. It's gold. ;)

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Not to get sidetracked, but is there a PUA that does really good stuff for the day time? For maybe slower seduction. Truth is the day time has this whole issue of trust. It seems to be a big road block on the way to success for many aspiring PUAs like my self. Game suited for maybe like coffee shops and what not.


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@Gaius

The ones that I know of are couple of moderators on this forum:

"Ryan Oceros aka blondguy"

"Chief"

But generally you can ask any moderator-they all seem to have experience both in daygame and nightgame.

P.M. them.


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Has anyone been successful using 60YOC in the day?


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Has anyone been successful using 60YOC in the day?
I've used some of his principles with good effect during the day.
Mainly shutting up and putting the burden on her to talk and qualify.


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